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August 27, 2016, 05:11:21 PM
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signaure are different on iconomi blog and bitcointalk Huh

There are 2 bounty campaigns. One of Bitcointalk thread done by yahoo for BTC. The other one by us for ICN tokens.
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signaure are different on iconomi blog and bitcointalk Huh

There are 2 bounty campaigns. One of Bitcointalk thread done by yahoo for BTC. The other one by us for ICN tokens.

thanks dev! so i can join the signature? i have to register some where?

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signaure are different on iconomi blog and bitcointalk Huh

There are 2 bounty campaigns. One of Bitcointalk thread done by yahoo for BTC. The other one by us for ICN tokens.

thanks dev! so i can join the signature? i have to register some where?

it is ok dev did find the registration form! Wink

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August 27, 2016, 06:21:16 PM
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I'm not understanding this fully. If we buy Iconomi tokens what dividends are we then entitled to?
Does this include profits from the investment funds? What about profits from the exchange?

Correct me if I am wrong on any of this:

This ico is not for the iconomi.index (CTF) and iconomi.performance (CMF) funds.  This ico is only for ownership of the OFM platform (ICN tokens).

- the iconomi.index (CTF) tokens will have a separate ico to raise funds.  These iconomi.index (CTF) tokens will be tradeable on exchanges

- At that point we will have 2 tokens: ICN tokens (OFM platform) and iconomi.index tokens (CTF) trading on exchanges

- The 3rd offering to raise captial will be the iconomi.performance (CMF) private fund.  Invitation only.  No tokens which are tradeable on exchanges.  Only way to go in and out will be through a manual/oldschool process.


Benefits of owning ICN tokens (OFM platform):

- voting rights, dividend rights, and invitation to invest in iconomi.performance (CMF) offering

The dividends come from here:
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The OFM platform systematically enables the sharing of management fees between fund managers and investors with Ethereum smart contract utilisation.

Questions:

1) How is the profit sharing decided on the OFM platform?
  - How much does fund manager keep
  - How much is sent to investors in the fund manager's fund
  - How much is distributed as dividends to ICN token holders

2) Will iconomi.index (CTF) and iconomi.performance (CMF) funds be migrated to the OFM platform, then profits from these 2 funds will be shared with holders of ICN tokens?  Or are these first 2 funds entirely separate from the OFM platform / ICN tokens?


This ICO is for ICONOMI management platform. Think of it as buying company shares. And this company will than make products and create profits.

The products ICONOMI will create won't have their own ICO. They will be financial products that we're be selling to outside investors. And those products will charge fee to their own investors just like mutual funds and etfs charge fee.

ICONOMI.INDEX - CTF will be tradable on exchanges yes.

CMF is general term. There will be many funds in CMF. One will be named ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE. This token will be invite only (for ICONOMI ICO participants at the beginning). Way to go out/in will be via us only on those tokens. 24/7 and simple. Sending money in/out in essence.


Answers to questions:
1)
- Profit sharing (fee split) on OFM will be split between ICONOMI as platform and fund manager as the one performing trading. It is not yet decided. But think of Uber/Airbnb split kind of tyle.
- Fund manager will get more than platform. See previous answer.
- Investors in fund will probably have around 20% performance fee on their gain.
- Our operational cost is what we'll burn. The rest goes to to "the owners of the company" - ICN token holders in that case.

2)
ICONOMI.INDEX and ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE will eventually be migrated to OFM. In effect those will be just two more funds on the platform that happened to be managed by us.


Great, thanks, I'm understanding this better now.  Two more questions:

1) Where will you be getting the capital for the first fund, iconomi.index (CTF) ?

2) Let's pretend I want to create and manage a fund on the OFM platform, movecrypto fund.  
- How do I raise capital for the fund?
- Am I only collecting capital inside the platform through ICN or ETH?
- Could I also collect capital from outside the platform in the form of EUR or USD?  
- Then I create/distribute a movecrypto token on the OFM platform to represent shares in my fund
- The price of this movecrypto token within the OFM platform would be denominated in ETH or ICN, for people who want to trade movecrypto tokens?

You are welcome.

More answers:

1) the capital will come from people outside of this community. Probably 1st factor of separation leads will be done by ICN investors. The rest with our marketing and strategic moves.

2)
- if you have a brand name you could do it from beginning already. If I know you and trust you I'm willing to put money in your fund right away. But most likely it will be in a way that you will trade your own small fund. Described it the way  your logic works and then trade. Others would see your description and your track record. And if someone will like it it will offer you to accept for example 10k USD investment into your fund. If you will accept it you will then trade for that guy as well.
- we'll provide collecting capital on the platform for crypto
- we'll as well provide collecting capital in fiat for your own fund (here majority of funds will flow in)
- then you trade and your token raises or loses value on the platform
- the price on IFM platform will be denominated in USD (because most people are familiar with that currency)
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August 27, 2016, 06:34:26 PM
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NEWSLETTER BOUNTIES:

Newsletter bounties closed with the start of ICO.

There was 1778 unique participants.
That equals to 56.242969628796400449 ICN tokens per unique email.
Edit: There was dust left of 0.000000000000001678 ICN.

List with md5 hashes will be published later for anyone to check. List will contain md5 hash of email email and UTC time of email submission.

Never knew of this newsletter bounty up to now. I haven't kept up with the thread and it seems that progress on the ICO sure is evident. I've missed too many bounties already and maybe I'll just invest something. I do have the feeling that this one is gonna be big.

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August 27, 2016, 07:19:46 PM
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If I create an article about ICONOMI and posted on steemit, will I still get a blog bounty?
Curious to know, i can't join the signature campaign as I'm currently enrolled to one. It will be good to have after all it will have exposure to targeted audience if posted on steemit.









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August 27, 2016, 07:28:59 PM
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If I create an article about ICONOMI and posted on steemit, will I still get a blog bounty?
Curious to know, i can't join the signature campaign as I'm currently enrolled to one. It will be good to have after all it will have exposure to targeted audience if posted on steemit.

Well I don't know if it could be an eligible blog entry since steemit is more of like a social media platform as they advertised it to be. But since you fully own whatever you write on there, I think it could somehow be counted as a blog post eligible for the bounty.

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August 27, 2016, 07:32:26 PM
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My blog have been submitted and got accepted also listed on spreadsheet . Thanks. !!
Well , about the ICO i have seen more than 434k USD invested (approximately 755.7BTC) , and than 35% progress from 2000BTC already achieved on first week. That's good start for this project. I would be more excited with this project  Smiley

To be more presice, it is just the 3rd day.  Cheesy  I have to say this project is so promising, so investors can't stop to inevst, lol

i really hope the figures are not inflated.. that's 1,462$ (~3BTC) per investor. The Trust being depicted is too much considering there are no set targets for investors and everything is for ICONOMI to decide at the end of ICO.

Numbers are not inflated.

We are transparent as much as possible. That way you can check our collecting addresses in full:

BTC: 3KbWWjumBGLBUWYCeidydxe1uET9QyWoEg
ETH:0x154Af3E01eC56Bc55fD585622E33E3dfb8a248d8
LSK: 6300322192409448238L
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August 27, 2016, 07:33:36 PM
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If I create an article about ICONOMI and posted on steemit, will I still get a blog bounty?
Curious to know, i can't join the signature campaign as I'm currently enrolled to one. It will be good to have after all it will have exposure to targeted audience if posted on steemit.

Well I don't know if it could be an eligible blog entry since steemit is more of like a social media platform as they advertised it to be. But since you fully own whatever you write on there, I think it could somehow be counted as a blog post.

Exactly. But I can't count on what you said though. would like to see what ICONOMI have to say about this.
Its like hitting two birds in one stone really. steemit allows us to earn while posting there so  its still unsure if he will consider this.









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August 27, 2016, 08:06:00 PM
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If I create an article about ICONOMI and posted on steemit, will I still get a blog bounty?
Curious to know, i can't join the signature campaign as I'm currently enrolled to one. It will be good to have after all it will have exposure to targeted audience if posted on steemit.

Well I don't know if it could be an eligible blog entry since steemit is more of like a social media platform as they advertised it to be. But since you fully own whatever you write on there, I think it could somehow be counted as a blog post.

Exactly. But I can't count on what you said though. would like to see what ICONOMI have to say about this.
Its like hitting two birds in one stone really. steemit allows us to earn while posting there so  its still unsure if he will consider this.

I can confirm that this is valid. What is most important is it's own content. Not translations or copying only.

On which medium you publish it. That's up to everyone.
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August 27, 2016, 08:12:58 PM
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If I create an article about ICONOMI and posted on steemit, will I still get a blog bounty?
Curious to know, i can't join the signature campaign as I'm currently enrolled to one. It will be good to have after all it will have exposure to targeted audience if posted on steemit.

Well I don't know if it could be an eligible blog entry since steemit is more of like a social media platform as they advertised it to be. But since you fully own whatever you write on there, I think it could somehow be counted as a blog post.

Exactly. But I can't count on what you said though. would like to see what ICONOMI have to say about this.
Its like hitting two birds in one stone really. steemit allows us to earn while posting there so  its still unsure if he will consider this.

I can confirm that this is valid. What is most important is it's own content. Not translations or copying only.

On which medium you publish it. That's up to everyone.

So it really is a win-win situation, then? What is the criteria for a blog post? Would a short post highlighting the main ideas and concepts behind the coin be eligible for the bounty or not?

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August 27, 2016, 09:47:18 PM
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can i traslate and write blog to malaysian language?
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can i traslate and write blog to malaysian language?


I dont think there is an exception to anyone to do it. Everyone has a right and its your choice to whether you like to do it payed by the owner or to do it without being payed. It helps you and everyone who reads your blog in either way.
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August 27, 2016, 10:32:13 PM
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A valid and legit project! The funding looks like a booming in here, ouch, can't believe so big fund.  Cheesy
And it is just the begining.Long way to go before ICO closes.It will surpass 2000 bitcoins easily

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Is there some upper limit when it's reachead then the ico ends earlier?
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Newbie here.  A few questions.  1)How will ICN holders receive dividends?  What will be received as dividends?  Will ICN tokens be tradable?

Thanks
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Join the face and twitter bounties also manage to involve on ICO, found this project extremely powerfull and exciting! Kiss

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August 28, 2016, 12:04:10 AM
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Newbie here.  A few questions.  1)How will ICN holders receive dividends?  What will be received as dividends?  Will ICN tokens be tradable?

Thanks


I recommend reading both whitepapers:
https://www.iconomi.net/ICONOMI_Whitepaper.pdf
https://www.iconomi.net/CoinFundsWhitepaper.pdf

And also all of the posts by ICONOMI bitcointalk account:
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wow nice ico with nice escrow Grin
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