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Author Topic: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform  (Read 1253589 times)
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November 26, 2016, 09:18:00 AM
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Some people don't understand that Ethereum is de best option to build on. They have the best devs the more then 300 dapss in their dapstore, big companies testing on ethereum like ibm siemens deloitte and microsoft azure is already integrated ethereum as a service. Ethereum is being attacked because they (bitcoin) are scared and they know they can lose alot of marketcap to ethereum so they atack to harm the trust of people. Ethereum is hardening every time when attacked. Al other blockchainplatform solutions are far behind ethereum because when they are in the top 3 then the attackers will aim on them too. smart contract platforms look safe (lisk, stratis,synereo) but are absolutely not. I think devolopment is more important then price of ether. Iconomi made the  best choice to choose for ethereum. Sorry for my english im from Holland.

Not quite true actually.
The big companies like the idea of smart contracts, but none of them has built anything on ethereum blockchain. There is a big difference between testing on and deploying a real product or service on.
Can you point out one product, service or use case that is working on ethereum? Don't tell me Iconomi, but a service that one of these companies that you mentioned are providing?
As for Azure - it is Blockchain as a service, not ethereum as a service.
Sure, IBM and IoT, Microsoft, Santander and others are very much into blockchains and smart contracts. Does it mean they are going to use ethereum blockchain to deploy their services?

Bitcoin is scared, that's why "bitcoin" attacks ethereum?
What are you 15 y/o?

Since currently there is no other real alternative, Iconomi made the ONLY available choice to deploy on ethereum.

You have to be ignorant if you ignore that bitcoin has the biggest motive to attack ethereum. It is totally normal that they are scared that there is a serious competitor in the game. Even a 15 year old understand this. And they gonna do everything to destroy it. I never said there is a product ot service build on Ethereum what people are using,  but  thats not strange because ethereum is in the development fase when the platform is ready (Metropolis) then we gonna see real world usage. Why is the only available choice?  Because they are the BEST available choice

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November 26, 2016, 09:20:51 AM
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3 more weeks to go, lets see how long the market will hold the price
What will happen after 3 weeks ? Embarrassed Am I missing anything?
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November 26, 2016, 10:06:40 AM
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any exchangers have listing iconomi to trade except on kraken?
do iconomi have a plan to make iconomi can be traded directly with bitcoin (ICN/BTC) ?

you can trade icn directly with btc on kraken...

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November 26, 2016, 10:08:29 AM
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3 more weeks to go, lets see how long the market will hold the price
What will happen after 3 weeks ? Embarrassed Am I missing anything?

He meant that the 2 Funds will start within December

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November 26, 2016, 10:12:07 AM
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Some people don't understand that Ethereum is de best option to build on. They have the best devs the more then 300 dapss in their dapstore, big companies testing on ethereum like ibm siemens deloitte and microsoft azure is already integrated ethereum as a service. Ethereum is being attacked because they (bitcoin) are scared and they know they can lose alot of marketcap to ethereum so they atack to harm the trust of people. Ethereum is hardening every time when attacked. Al other blockchainplatform solutions are far behind ethereum because when they are in the top 3 then the attackers will aim on them too. smart contract platforms look safe (lisk, stratis,synereo) but are absolutely not. I think devolopment is more important then price of ether. Iconomi made the  best choice to choose for ethereum. Sorry for my english im from Holland.

Not quite true actually.
The big companies like the idea of smart contracts, but none of them has built anything on ethereum blockchain. There is a big difference between testing on and deploying a real product or service on.
Can you point out one product, service or use case that is working on ethereum? Don't tell me Iconomi, but a service that one of these companies that you mentioned are providing?
As for Azure - it is Blockchain as a service, not ethereum as a service.
Sure, IBM and IoT, Microsoft, Santander and others are very much into blockchains and smart contracts. Does it mean they are going to use ethereum blockchain to deploy their services?

Bitcoin is scared, that's why "bitcoin" attacks ethereum?
What are you 15 y/o?

Since currently there is no other real alternative, Iconomi made the ONLY available choice to deploy on ethereum.

You have to be ignorant if you ignore that bitcoin has the biggest motive to attack ethereum. It is totally normal that they are scared that there is a serious competitor in the game. Even a 15 year old understand this. And they gonna do everything to destroy it. I never said there is a product ot service build on Ethereum what people are using,  but  thats not strange because ethereum is in the development fase when the platform is ready (Metropolis) then we gonna see real world usage. Why is the only available choice?  Because they are the BEST available choice


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You have to be ignorant if you ignore that bitcoin has the biggest motive to attack ethereum... they are scared

Why would they want to attack Ethereum? And who is "they"? Bitcoin core devs? Miners? Can you backup your claims about that fear somehow? Or is it your hunch and a crystal ball?
You are the one talking like a 15 y/o child. Applying that I am ignorant doesn't help you prove your point.
Which is what, exactly?
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November 26, 2016, 10:21:53 AM
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wow ICN price down.. to 0,148$ 
$0.162022 (-2.70%)
0.00022051 BTC (-2.42%)


time to buy some ICNs again, last time i buy was at 0.22$!!

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November 26, 2016, 10:44:45 AM
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Some people don't understand that Ethereum is de best option to build on. They have the best devs the more then 300 dapss in their dapstore, big companies testing on ethereum like ibm siemens deloitte and microsoft azure is already integrated ethereum as a service. Ethereum is being attacked because they (bitcoin) are scared and they know they can lose alot of marketcap to ethereum so they atack to harm the trust of people. Ethereum is hardening every time when attacked. Al other blockchainplatform solutions are far behind ethereum because when they are in the top 3 then the attackers will aim on them too. smart contract platforms look safe (lisk, stratis,synereo) but are absolutely not. I think devolopment is more important then price of ether. Iconomi made the  best choice to choose for ethereum. Sorry for my english im from Holland.

Not quite true actually.
The big companies like the idea of smart contracts, but none of them has built anything on ethereum blockchain. There is a big difference between testing on and deploying a real product or service on.
Can you point out one product, service or use case that is working on ethereum? Don't tell me Iconomi, but a service that one of these companies that you mentioned are providing?
As for Azure - it is Blockchain as a service, not ethereum as a service.
Sure, IBM and IoT, Microsoft, Santander and others are very much into blockchains and smart contracts. Does it mean they are going to use ethereum blockchain to deploy their services?

Bitcoin is scared, that's why "bitcoin" attacks ethereum?
What are you 15 y/o?

Since currently there is no other real alternative, Iconomi made the ONLY available choice to deploy on ethereum.

You have to be ignorant if you ignore that bitcoin has the biggest motive to attack ethereum. It is totally normal that they are scared that there is a serious competitor in the game. Even a 15 year old understand this. And they gonna do everything to destroy it. I never said there is a product ot service build on Ethereum what people are using,  but  thats not strange because ethereum is in the development fase when the platform is ready (Metropolis) then we gonna see real world usage. Why is the only available choice?  Because they are the BEST available choice


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You have to be ignorant if you ignore that bitcoin has the biggest motive to attack ethereum... they are scared

Why would they want to attack Ethereum? And who is "they"? Bitcoin core devs? Miners? Can you backup your claims about that fear somehow? Or is it your hunch and a crystal ball?
You are the one talking like a 15 y/o child. Applying that I am ignorant doesn't help you prove your point.
Which is what, exactly?


'They' are the attackers if i knew who they were then you wouldn't believe me either. I don't have to claim or proof anything we are not in court. But i tell you a bedtimestory: There are two giants at the moment an old fat pig and a lion.  And the lion is gonna eat the fat pig for lunch But the fat pig called her friend the snake to attack the lion. Untill the snake is out of poison the pig lives,after that Lion wil be king. You understand now?
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November 26, 2016, 10:47:18 AM
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any exchangers have listing iconomi to trade except on kraken?
do iconomi have a plan to make iconomi can be traded directly with bitcoin (ICN/BTC) ?

for the moment ICN is available on Kraken and liqui.
We expect the team ICONOMI will be adding some an exchanges.
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November 26, 2016, 10:47:54 AM
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Some people don't understand that Ethereum is de best option to build on. They have the best devs the more then 300 dapss in their dapstore, big companies testing on ethereum like ibm siemens deloitte and microsoft azure is already integrated ethereum as a service. Ethereum is being attacked because they (bitcoin) are scared and they know they can lose alot of marketcap to ethereum so they atack to harm the trust of people. Ethereum is hardening every time when attacked. Al other blockchainplatform solutions are far behind ethereum because when they are in the top 3 then the attackers will aim on them too. smart contract platforms look safe (lisk, stratis,synereo) but are absolutely not. I think devolopment is more important then price of ether. Iconomi made the  best choice to choose for ethereum. Sorry for my english im from Holland.

Initially, there was a lot of excitement within ETH because of this:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/r-issues-buterin-s-ethereum-platform-review-papers-opportunities-and-challenges-for-private-and-consortium-blockchains-1465943849



Within the last few days, these news have been surfacing:

http://bravenewcoin.com/news/shakeup-at-r3-cev-blockchain-consortium-as-banks-leave/

http://www.coindesk.com/santander-drops-out-r3-blockchain-consortium/

https://www.ft.com/content/598934e0-b010-11e6-9c37-5787335499a0

Nobody is doubting the team behind ICONOMI, it's just that it would be nice if they have a back up plan in case mETH does go tits up.....

Unless you're some sort of clairvoyant, one cannot really predict what would happen but it's just good practice to have a PLAN B included in your SOP in case the proverbial shit does hit the fan.....

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November 26, 2016, 10:48:46 AM
Last edit: November 27, 2016, 03:33:15 PM by ivanst776
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wow ICN price down.. to 0,148$ 
$0.162022 (-2.70%)
0.00022051 BTC (-2.42%)
time to buy some ICNs again, last time i buy was at 0.22$!!

I bought at 0.00025BTC and didn't sold them yet even though the price went up to 30k satoshi and down to 17k satoshi.

any exchangers have listing iconomi to trade except on kraken?
do iconomi have a plan to make iconomi can be traded directly with bitcoin (ICN/BTC) ?

Actually where iconomi is active on exchanges is Kraken and Liqui but the last one I have seen a scam accusation against them

So you better try and get verified in kraken and trade there until the Iconomi team decided to list the Iconomi somewhere else.
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November 26, 2016, 11:06:29 AM
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Prob this dump is only Black Friday efect. People taking your money to buy some things.

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November 26, 2016, 11:19:45 AM
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3 more weeks to go, lets see how long the market will hold the price
What will happen after 3 weeks ? Embarrassed Am I missing anything?
Check the roadmap available in Op.Kudos to ICONOMI dev for being on schedule.I am definitely going to hold my ICN for longer period.All we need is a patience as devs are competent to execute everything in professional manner

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November 26, 2016, 12:00:45 PM
Last edit: November 26, 2016, 12:20:42 PM by 5thangel
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3 more weeks to go, lets see how long the market will hold the price
What will happen after 3 weeks ? Embarrassed Am I missing anything?

He meant that the 2 Funds will start within December

I was expecting to hear something new )))
In this case there no exact date so it can be at anytime in december.
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November 26, 2016, 12:17:05 PM
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3 more weeks to go, lets see how long the market will hold the price
What will happen after 3 weeks ? Embarrassed Am I missing anything?
Check the roadmap available in Op.
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November 26, 2016, 12:33:08 PM
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Great.....

Another fucking security issue with mETH.....

https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-issues-security-alert-after-fork-transactions-may-be-reverted

https://twitter.com/EthMonkey/status/802482844069138432

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November 26, 2016, 12:46:09 PM
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Starts to look more like bi-weekly fork. Let's hope that we won't end up with another active chain.
The last thing we need is ICN classic.

Some kid here said something about a pig and a lion?
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November 26, 2016, 12:51:16 PM
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Starts to look more like bi-weekly fork. Let's hope that we won't end up with another active chain.
The last thing we need is ICN classic.

Some kid here said something about a pig and a lion?

ICN classic cannot happen. would be totally worthless without a company backing it with products

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November 26, 2016, 12:55:21 PM
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ICN should be its own entity

It needs to get the fuck away from mETH asap.

Move as far away from the fucking joke that mETH is becoming.

And trust me, I used to be a massive mETH fan boi......


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November 26, 2016, 01:07:35 PM
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Starts to look more like bi-weekly fork. Let's hope that we won't end up with another active chain.
The last thing we need is ICN classic.

Some kid here said something about a pig and a lion?

ICN classic cannot happen. would be totally worthless without a company backing it with products
You know it, and I know it. What about all people from outside the crypto world?
How do u explain a weekly fork and daily high severity "bugs" in the underlaying protocol?
Now we are still flying below the radar, but what will happen when the platform will be operative and people will invest into live funds? Or when another major issue will prevent or mess up dividends distribution?

Those forks are really really bad for any service that is using Ethereum in production, especially a fin-tech platform.
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November 26, 2016, 01:40:18 PM
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Starts to look more like bi-weekly fork. Let's hope that we won't end up with another active chain.
The last thing we need is ICN classic.

Some kid here said something about a pig and a lion?

ICN classic cannot happen. would be totally worthless without a company backing it with products
You know it, and I know it. What about all people from outside the crypto world?
How do u explain a weekly fork and daily high severity "bugs" in the underlaying protocol?
Now we are still flying below the radar, but what will happen when the platform will be operative and people will invest into live funds? Or when another major issue will prevent or mess up dividends distribution?

Those forks are really really bad for any service that is using Ethereum in production, especially a fin-tech platform.

people outside of crypto don't give a single fuck about a blockchain or its state. as long as it works, which it does even with forks

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