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December 08, 2016, 06:17:56 PM |
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I think he is a heavy troll. Also quotes Jaka about stuff he didn't say. Just when I thought we were about to have the first troll-free day
Did Jaka said anything about NDAs with some exchanges ? Maybe is just some troll that said that, not Jaka ... sure
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December 08, 2016, 06:20:31 PM |
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I will sell only in case of emergency else will keep holding my tokens as long as I can keep them. I can only hope all this waiting will bring me huge profit. I am not really in hurry and want to let this project enough time to stabilize and grow well. These chances are rare to make entry in such thing with huge potential. There is something special in this project.
I agree. Team+idea+funding+ready fiat gateway+timing -decent exchange= success failureYou don't see this equation very often ---> I updated the equation ... now its more realistic
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December 08, 2016, 07:17:50 PM |
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it's clear that right now the dividends will be small and slow, after all, there's no profit at the start and lots of bills to be paid. but with time, iconomi will have dozens of investments and every month will have a big cashout.
it's like any business, it needs time to be profitable.
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December 08, 2016, 07:22:32 PM |
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Will ICNP and ICNPX be different tokens than ICN? How does one invest in one fund or another with their ICN tokens? I don't really understand how all this is interconnected as the white paper didn't explain.
Here the official posting by Jaka: ICNX Tokens will be a part of the dividend distribution System. With every dividend payout 0,2 % of all ICNX tokens will be provided to the 10 ethereum adresses which at the time of the dividend payout hold the most ICONOMI token. This happens every 2 weeks
50% of all ICNP Tokens will be automatically distributed to every ICO member who contributed more than 5 BTC. The rest of ICNP tokens will be available via Kraken at a fixed price of 0,1 BTC/ICNP Now felt regret for not investing 5btc ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) Same thing here. But i wanna know who said this because it felt already like i lost thousands of $. I can't buy more this time people are holding. If its listed on bittrex, it would be easier. I can tell you who said this... look above it was Troll Admiral_Bit Googled several of those exact quotes and the only internet hits are... this thread. Unless that was on a slack chat or something, it's completely a fabrication. And since such a system would massively tilt every small investor in ICN... it's a complete fabrication. Excellent trolling though.
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December 08, 2016, 07:28:53 PM |
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it's clear that right now the dividends will be small and slow, after all, there's no profit at the start and lots of bills to be paid. but with time, iconomi will have dozens of investments and every month will have a big cashout.
it's like any business, it needs time to be profitable.
as long as it works we're golden, since iconomi is the first to perform this kind of business, that's what matters ,being the first there should be planning a summer trip to beautiful Slovenia right now ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fj.gifs.com%2FrNNq5r.gif&t=665&c=7Ql36jbohGxT4Q)
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December 08, 2016, 07:38:07 PM |
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Googled several of those exact quotes and the only internet hits are... this thread. Unless that was on a slack chat or something, it's completely a fabrication. And since such a system would massively tilt every small investor in ICN... it's a complete fabrication. Excellent trolling though.
yeah, he's spreading lies & FUD. click ignore and give him neg trust is the best way
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December 08, 2016, 09:13:40 PM |
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it's clear that right now the dividends will be small and slow, after all, there's no profit at the start and lots of bills to be paid. but with time, iconomi will have dozens of investments and every month will have a big cashout.
it's like any business, it needs time to be profitable.
I agree, you are indeed right. Many people want to get right away mountains of gold. But it does not happen. We need time. We must wait. Everything will be fine.
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December 08, 2016, 09:28:24 PM |
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Bussiness does not need to be profitable to be valuable. Amazon didn't make any profits for almost 20 years and its market cap was growing rapidly the entire time. If Iconomi reinvests all its profits and doesn't pay dividends it just means that they have a plan on how to grow the bussiness. How they are able to bring billions into crypto. If they want to do this they have to spend heavily on advertising IMHO.
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December 08, 2016, 09:46:37 PM |
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Bussiness does not need to be profitable to be valuable. Amazon didn't make any profits for almost 20 years and its market cap was growing rapidly the entire time. If Iconomi reinvests all its profits and doesn't pay dividends it just means that they have a plan on how to grow the bussiness. How they are able to bring billions into crypto. If they want to do this they have to spend heavily on advertising IMHO.
I agree. I would be glad if ICONOMI did not pay any Dividends for the first year and just reinvested everything back into the fund.
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December 08, 2016, 10:35:41 PM |
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Has anybody else run in the problem of an email verification not showing up after you have sent your coins. I tried to send mine to Kraken and the email verification never arrives. And, yes, I have checked my spam filter. I have also tried resending the email to no avail.
I even emailed support for this issue and have no response. Suffice it to say, I'm not impressed.
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December 08, 2016, 11:21:49 PM |
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i wonder how nobody here talking about investment that ICONOMI made in GOLEM? was it 5Mill $?
and how GOLEM project is not doin well?
seems that everyone is busy with ICN price and if ICN will be on POLO?
Look what do you guys think that ICNX (iconomi) will need to fund 2 major investments so that shareholders will get (profit) but what will those 2 investments will be in 2017?
Does that two investments will be profitable?
can anyone guess?
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December 08, 2016, 11:32:40 PM |
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i wonder how nobody here talking about investment that ICONOMI made in GOLEM? was it 5Mill $?
and how GOLEM project is not doin well?
seems that everyone is busy with ICN price and if ICN will be on POLO?
Look what do you guys think that ICNX (iconomi) will need to fund 2 major investments so that shareholders will get (profit) but what will those 2 investments will be in 2017?
Does that two investments will be profitable?
can anyone guess?
5000 ETH ($50k) investment into Golem was more of a proof of concept investment, so they could meet their goal of starting performance fund before 2017 I don't expect significant dividends until OFM platform is launched, userbase grows and it starts generating revenue. If revenue of OFM platform grew to size of Bittrex, then that would mean $12k per week in dividends to ICN holders. Any dividends from index and performance funds would just be icing on the cake at that point.
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December 08, 2016, 11:37:00 PM |
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i wonder how nobody here talking about investment that ICONOMI made in GOLEM? was it 5Mill $?
and how GOLEM project is not doin well?
seems that everyone is busy with ICN price and if ICN will be on POLO?
Look what do you guys think that ICNX (iconomi) will need to fund 2 major investments so that shareholders will get (profit) but what will those 2 investments will be in 2017?
Does that two investments will be profitable?
can anyone guess?
It was only 5000 ETH ... peanuts .. really doesn't meter. More important to be on Polo ... they would gain those 5000 ETH back in a few days of easy trading if they are as good as they claim to be.
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December 08, 2016, 11:40:06 PM |
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i wonder how nobody here talking about investment that ICONOMI made in GOLEM? was it 5Mill $?
and how GOLEM project is not doin well?
seems that everyone is busy with ICN price and if ICN will be on POLO?
Look what do you guys think that ICNX (iconomi) will need to fund 2 major investments so that shareholders will get (profit) but what will those 2 investments will be in 2017?
Does that two investments will be profitable?
can anyone guess?
5000 ETH ($50k) investment into Golem was more of a proof of concept investment, so they could meet their goal of starting performance fund before 2017 I don't expect significant dividends until OFM platform is launched, userbase grows and it starts generating revenue. If revenue of OFM platform grew to size of Bittrex, then that would mean $15k per week in dividends to ICN holders. Any dividends from index and performance funds would just be icing on the cake at that point. As we understand the ICNX will be funded only by iconomi funds (at start)?
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December 09, 2016, 12:33:58 AM |
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Will ICNP and ICNPX be different tokens than ICN? How does one invest in one fund or another with their ICN tokens? I don't really understand how all this is interconnected as the white paper didn't explain.
Here the official posting by Jaka: ICNX Tokens will be a part of the dividend distribution System. With every dividend payout 0,2 % of all ICNX tokens will be provided to the 10 ethereum adresses which at the time of the dividend payout hold the most ICONOMI token. This happens every 2 weeks
50% of all ICNP Tokens will be automatically distributed to every ICO member who contributed more than 5 BTC. The rest of ICNP tokens will be available via Kraken at a fixed price of 0,1 BTC/ICNP "The troll is strong with this one" Seriously , bruh. And from a "senior member". My apologies if it was totally meant to be humorous ,however. I really did get a good laugh out of it .
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December 09, 2016, 12:48:02 AM |
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i wonder how nobody here talking about investment that ICONOMI made in GOLEM? was it 5Mill $?
and how GOLEM project is not doin well?
seems that everyone is busy with ICN price and if ICN will be on POLO?
Look what do you guys think that ICNX (iconomi) will need to fund 2 major investments so that shareholders will get (profit) but what will those 2 investments will be in 2017?
Does that two investments will be profitable?
can anyone guess?
yes it will be profitable dont too late to buy now and get a devidens in the future. good luck and have a nice day.
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December 09, 2016, 02:07:42 AM |
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Just a speculation, I don't think if ICN will get a list in the bittrex or polo, although you need to pay up to 3BTC to get listing in the bittrex for instantly. But I think the answer will "NO", but a very surprise for me if it can be used become a gamble.
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December 09, 2016, 02:24:13 AM |
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LOL. that will be the easiest money i ever made(voted for "NO"). to me it's clear that iconomi team isn't worried about getting listed in other exchange.
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December 09, 2016, 02:38:47 AM |
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LOL. that will be the easiest money i ever made(voted for "NO"). to me it's clear that iconomi team isn't worried about getting listed in other exchange. Then put your money where your mouth is. Blockchain transaction or it didn't happen.
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From the reddit "AMA" ... "icojaka- AMA ANSWER: It is up to specific exchanges to decide when they will list ICN." ... Emphasis on "When" . Seems like he would have said "If" , if they weren't planning on listing icn .... Muh'right?
The answer Was in response to the poloniex question ....not directly ,but iconomi refuses to answer anything directly in relation to icn getting listed on poloniex ...ya know ,...cuz the "NDA's"??
Let me be clear , i don't know if I really think icojakof's answer indicates he knows icn will be listed on poloniex or one of the other "several big exchanges . If i thought that, i wouldn't be making fun of iconomi touting the "NDA' thing , which now just seems like something that was used to avoid answering why icn wasn't being listed .
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