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Many here asume that the dividends are going to be very low. If this is true then ICN will be a very poor investment. You should instead invest your capital in ICNX or ICNP, and not in ICN itself.
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mtnsaa
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December 17, 2016, 04:32:08 PM |
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I see ChronoBank is the next ICONOMI Hardly. Its a good project but its potential growth is smaller. First, adoption of crypto world in many countries is quite slow (from people point of view and also from government). Secondly, their idea can be much easier copied (it is not so revolutionary as Iconomi). And thirldy, Iconomi team made before Cashilla which is kind a complementary with Iconomi. Chronobank did not do anything similar in the past I won't comment if ChronoBank will be successful or not long term since it's all speculation and we are still years away of crypto going truly mainstream. However your arguments could be applied just the same to Iconomi. They seem to have plenty of connections and experience with real companies and employees, they are not coming from nothing. If they manage to cut expenses compared to other options as they said, their business will flourish. I think this is similar to Lykke (that's much more focused on banking, money transfer, etc but I believe they still aim for services exchanges). I think what distinguishes ChronoBank from other cryptoprojects is that LH tokens will actually have parity with current real world currencies. Let's face it, ETH, BTC, XMR are hardly spent or used daily because people hoard them. Volatility is the final nail on the coffin and the reason you can't really build a real world/daily business strictly based on cryptocurrencies other than a exchange or a betting site The time tokens on the other hand are basically company shares which will receive dividends if the company grows (just like ICN). I was a bit unfair to note just what I see from negative side. Of course your comment summarizes good points which I agree. I am still worried about those negative sides though I've been doing some more research on ChronoBank and you can read a great review at https://www.smithandcrown.com/participate-chronobank-crowdsale/What's very interesting is this Edway group...they are basically coming up with Chronobank to solve their own problems, so that basically guarantees the project will have clients and employees already. This is a major advantage since it's basically the hardest part for any ico or new company (Iconomi for example will have to heavily promote its service to fiat investors, unless they already have some). Now, there are a lot of cons and question marks of course too but it's really a genuine and unique approach to actually use bring blockchain to the masses and be a solution, not a possibility. If crypto ever becomes a powerful industry in this new economy projects like Iconomi, Chronobank, Golem, Steem, Factom, Storj/Sia, ArcadeCity, etc, who are focused on a sector, niche or service will be the cornerstones of it. This assuming they have time to develop before the real boom and keep improving and adapting. That's why old giants like IBM, Microsoft and many others are still kings and trustable companies.
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December 17, 2016, 04:38:33 PM |
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I see ChronoBank is the next ICONOMI Hardly. Its a good project but its potential growth is smaller. First, adoption of crypto world in many countries is quite slow (from people point of view and also from government). Secondly, their idea can be much easier copied (it is not so revolutionary as Iconomi). And thirldy, Iconomi team made before Cashilla which is kind a complementary with Iconomi. Chronobank did not do anything similar in the past I won't comment if ChronoBank will be successful or not long term since it's all speculation and we are still years away of crypto going truly mainstream. However your arguments could be applied just the same to Iconomi. They seem to have plenty of connections and experience with real companies and employees, they are not coming from nothing. If they manage to cut expenses compared to other options as they said, their business will flourish. I think this is similar to Lykke (that's much more focused on banking, money transfer, etc but I believe they still aim for services exchanges). I think what distinguishes ChronoBank from other cryptoprojects is that LH tokens will actually have parity with current real world currencies. Let's face it, ETH, BTC, XMR are hardly spent or used daily because people hoard them. Volatility is the final nail on the coffin and the reason you can't really build a real world/daily business strictly based on cryptocurrencies other than a exchange or a betting site The time tokens on the other hand are basically company shares which will receive dividends if the company grows (just like ICN). I was a bit unfair to note just what I see from negative side. Of course your comment summarizes good points which I agree. I am still worried about those negative sides though I've been doing some more research on ChronoBank and you can read a great review at https://www.smithandcrown.com/participate-chronobank-crowdsale/What's very interesting is this Edway group...they are basically coming up with Chronobank to solve their own problems, so that basically guarantees the project will have clients and employees already. This is a major advantage since it's basically the hardest part for any ico or new company (Iconomi for example will have to heavily promote its service to fiat investors, unless they already have some). Now, there are a lot of cons and question marks of course too but it's really a genuine and unique approach to actually use bring blockchain to the masses and be a solution, not a possibility. If crypto ever becomes a powerful industry in this new economy projects like Iconomi, Chronobank, Golem, Steem, Factom, Storj/Sia, ArcadeCity, etc, who are focused on a sector, niche or service will be the cornerstones of it. This assuming they have time to develop before the real boom and keep improving and adapting. That's why old giants like IBM, Microsoft and many others are still kings and trustable companies. Guys... please fuck your selves elsewhere. no one here gives a shit about your chrono cunt fuck.
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December 17, 2016, 04:47:47 PM |
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I see ChronoBank is the next ICONOMI Hardly. Its a good project but its potential growth is smaller. First, adoption of crypto world in many countries is quite slow (from people point of view and also from government). Secondly, their idea can be much easier copied (it is not so revolutionary as Iconomi). And thirldy, Iconomi team made before Cashilla which is kind a complementary with Iconomi. Chronobank did not do anything similar in the past I won't comment if ChronoBank will be successful or not long term since it's all speculation and we are still years away of crypto going truly mainstream. However your arguments could be applied just the same to Iconomi. They seem to have plenty of connections and experience with real companies and employees, they are not coming from nothing. If they manage to cut expenses compared to other options as they said, their business will flourish. I think this is similar to Lykke (that's much more focused on banking, money transfer, etc but I believe they still aim for services exchanges). I think what distinguishes ChronoBank from other cryptoprojects is that LH tokens will actually have parity with current real world currencies. Let's face it, ETH, BTC, XMR are hardly spent or used daily because people hoard them. Volatility is the final nail on the coffin and the reason you can't really build a real world/daily business strictly based on cryptocurrencies other than a exchange or a betting site The time tokens on the other hand are basically company shares which will receive dividends if the company grows (just like ICN). I was a bit unfair to note just what I see from negative side. Of course your comment summarizes good points which I agree. I am still worried about those negative sides though I've been doing some more research on ChronoBank and you can read a great review at https://www.smithandcrown.com/participate-chronobank-crowdsale/What's very interesting is this Edway group...they are basically coming up with Chronobank to solve their own problems, so that basically guarantees the project will have clients and employees already. This is a major advantage since it's basically the hardest part for any ico or new company (Iconomi for example will have to heavily promote its service to fiat investors, unless they already have some). Now, there are a lot of cons and question marks of course too but it's really a genuine and unique approach to actually use bring blockchain to the masses and be a solution, not a possibility. If crypto ever becomes a powerful industry in this new economy projects like Iconomi, Chronobank, Golem, Steem, Factom, Storj/Sia, ArcadeCity, etc, who are focused on a sector, niche or service will be the cornerstones of it. This assuming they have time to develop before the real boom and keep improving and adapting. That's why old giants like IBM, Microsoft and many others are still kings and trustable companies. Guys... please fuck your selves elsewhere. no one here gives a shit about your chrono cunt fuck. Actually we are discussing this because Iconomi most likely already invested on the ICO for the performance fund, so please don't be disrespectful.
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December 17, 2016, 05:10:06 PM |
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So don't panic
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December 17, 2016, 05:59:25 PM |
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Why all the noise about dividends now, this has been started before and people were advised to move their tokens to the wallet which they control the private keys not exchange wallet
I haven't moved my ICN yet, so I'm keeping them in ico.iconomi.net wallet so will I received the divideds? I'm not sure that I hold the private key since it is a web iconomi platform?? It was EXPLICITLY STATED that if YOU HOLD your ICO tokens on the native platform, you will GET YOUR DIVIDENDS. If you moved your ICN to an ETH wallet, then as long as you have access to the private keys to said wallet, you get dividends. So these are the TWO CLEAR-CUT CASES where you get dividends. As for exchanges paying dividends, it's up to them. Thank you for clearing this up as there have been many pages and is hard to read all of them But you have missed my other question which is as much important as the first one: But the question is when is this going to happen and how much will be dividend for 1k ICN?
go fuck yourself you fucking twatyou are gonna get shit for 1K ICN unless iconomi makes a billion dollar profit every month. Why nobody tells how much is the dividends, how much can I expect for 1k ICN ? At least in ICN or in % how much is that, 1%? I have 1,786.70 ICN and want to know how the dividends will work! That's all, thank you...
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December 17, 2016, 06:09:34 PM |
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NOBODY HAS ANY FUCKING CLUE HOW MUCH DIVIDEND YOU WILL GET PER ICN YET NOW PLEASE KINDLY FUCK OFF.
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MoveCrypto
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December 17, 2016, 06:13:59 PM |
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Why all the noise about dividends now, this has been started before and people were advised to move their tokens to the wallet which they control the private keys not exchange wallet
I haven't moved my ICN yet, so I'm keeping them in ico.iconomi.net wallet so will I received the divideds? I'm not sure that I hold the private key since it is a web iconomi platform?? It was EXPLICITLY STATED that if YOU HOLD your ICO tokens on the native platform, you will GET YOUR DIVIDENDS. If you moved your ICN to an ETH wallet, then as long as you have access to the private keys to said wallet, you get dividends. So these are the TWO CLEAR-CUT CASES where you get dividends. As for exchanges paying dividends, it's up to them. Thank you for clearing this up as there have been many pages and is hard to read all of them But you have missed my other question which is as much important as the first one: But the question is when is this going to happen and how much will be dividend for 1k ICN?
go fuck yourself you fucking twatyou are gonna get shit for 1K ICN unless iconomi makes a billion dollar profit every month. Why nobody tells how much is the dividends, how much can I expect for 1k ICN ? At least in ICN or in % how much is that, 1%? I have 1,786.70 ICN and want to know how the dividends will work! That's all, thank you... I don't expect dividends to be significant until OFM platform is launched and starts generating fees. Estimated Weekly revenue of trading platforms (24 hour volume × trading fee × 7 days): Bittrex: (0.25% fee): $12k Bitstamp: (0.20% fee): $35k Poloniex: (0.35% fee): $203k Optimistic scenario is OFM platform starts generating as much revenue as Poloniex. Then 1k ICN would rake in a massive $2.03 per week in dividends.
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December 17, 2016, 06:14:21 PM |
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Why all the noise about dividends now, this has been started before and people were advised to move their tokens to the wallet which they control the private keys not exchange wallet
I haven't moved my ICN yet, so I'm keeping them in ico.iconomi.net wallet so will I received the divideds? I'm not sure that I hold the private key since it is a web iconomi platform?? It was EXPLICITLY STATED that if YOU HOLD your ICO tokens on the native platform, you will GET YOUR DIVIDENDS. If you moved your ICN to an ETH wallet, then as long as you have access to the private keys to said wallet, you get dividends. So these are the TWO CLEAR-CUT CASES where you get dividends. As for exchanges paying dividends, it's up to them. Thank you for clearing this up as there have been many pages and is hard to read all of them But you have missed my other question which is as much important as the first one: But the question is when is this going to happen and how much will be dividend for 1k ICN?
go fuck yourself you fucking twatyou are gonna get shit for 1K ICN unless iconomi makes a billion dollar profit every month. Why nobody tells how much is the dividends, how much can I expect for 1k ICN ? At least in ICN or in % how much is that, 1%? I have 1,786.70 ICN and want to know how the dividends will work! That's all, thank you... https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5d75wj/how_much_did_you_invest_into_icn/da2djcu/Someone did some math. This assumes Iconomi has a weekly profit of 285k$. Which will take a while.
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December 17, 2016, 06:16:30 PM |
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Why all the noise about dividends now, this has been started before and people were advised to move their tokens to the wallet which they control the private keys not exchange wallet
I haven't moved my ICN yet, so I'm keeping them in ico.iconomi.net wallet so will I received the divideds? I'm not sure that I hold the private key since it is a web iconomi platform?? It was EXPLICITLY STATED that if YOU HOLD your ICO tokens on the native platform, you will GET YOUR DIVIDENDS. If you moved your ICN to an ETH wallet, then as long as you have access to the private keys to said wallet, you get dividends. So these are the TWO CLEAR-CUT CASES where you get dividends. As for exchanges paying dividends, it's up to them. Thank you for clearing this up as there have been many pages and is hard to read all of them But you have missed my other question which is as much important as the first one: But the question is when is this going to happen and how much will be dividend for 1k ICN?
go fuck yourself you fucking twatyou are gonna get shit for 1K ICN unless iconomi makes a billion dollar profit every month. Why nobody tells how much is the dividends, how much can I expect for 1k ICN ? At least in ICN or in % how much is that, 1%? I have 1,786.70 ICN and want to know how the dividends will work! That's all, thank you... Dividends definition: A sum of money (eth) paid regularly by a company (Iconomi) to its shareholders (ICN holders) out of its profits.If it is still not clear enough, kindly refer to DeadBirdzz answer above
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December 17, 2016, 07:19:19 PM |
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Not Ddos man, hahaha still scary.
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December 17, 2016, 07:33:32 PM |
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What happen with 10 days again??
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December 17, 2016, 07:36:36 PM |
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What happen with 10 days again?? ICNX will be launch.
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December 17, 2016, 08:42:49 PM |
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I see ChronoBank is the next ICONOMI Hardly. Its a good project but its potential growth is smaller. First, adoption of crypto world in many countries is quite slow (from people point of view and also from government). Secondly, their idea can be much easier copied (it is not so revolutionary as Iconomi). And thirldy, Iconomi team made before Cashilla which is kind a complementary with Iconomi. Chronobank did not do anything similar in the past I won't comment if ChronoBank will be successful or not long term since it's all speculation and we are still years away of crypto going truly mainstream. However your arguments could be applied just the same to Iconomi. They seem to have plenty of connections and experience with real companies and employees, they are not coming from nothing. If they manage to cut expenses compared to other options as they said, their business will flourish. I think this is similar to Lykke (that's much more focused on banking, money transfer, etc but I believe they still aim for services exchanges). I think what distinguishes ChronoBank from other cryptoprojects is that LH tokens will actually have parity with current real world currencies. Let's face it, ETH, BTC, XMR are hardly spent or used daily because people hoard them. Volatility is the final nail on the coffin and the reason you can't really build a real world/daily business strictly based on cryptocurrencies other than a exchange or a betting site The time tokens on the other hand are basically company shares which will receive dividends if the company grows (just like ICN). I was a bit unfair to note just what I see from negative side. Of course your comment summarizes good points which I agree. I am still worried about those negative sides though I've been doing some more research on ChronoBank and you can read a great review at https://www.smithandcrown.com/participate-chronobank-crowdsale/What's very interesting is this Edway group...they are basically coming up with Chronobank to solve their own problems, so that basically guarantees the project will have clients and employees already. This is a major advantage since it's basically the hardest part for any ico or new company (Iconomi for example will have to heavily promote its service to fiat investors, unless they already have some). Now, there are a lot of cons and question marks of course too but it's really a genuine and unique approach to actually use bring blockchain to the masses and be a solution, not a possibility. If crypto ever becomes a powerful industry in this new economy projects like Iconomi, Chronobank, Golem, Steem, Factom, Storj/Sia, ArcadeCity, etc, who are focused on a sector, niche or service will be the cornerstones of it. This assuming they have time to develop before the real boom and keep improving and adapting. That's why old giants like IBM, Microsoft and many others are still kings and trustable companies. Guys... please fuck your selves elsewhere. no one here gives a shit about your chrono cunt fuck. Actually we are discussing this because Iconomi most likely already invested on the ICO for the performance fund, so please don't be disrespectful. Your excuse to talk about Chrono proves you know very little about the investment process. First of all everything is transparent and all investments can be seen here: https://ico.iconomi.net/about-icnx-index Second Iconomi will not consider investing into any ICO as any crypto has to be at least two months old to be considered in the Index. Please find your dumb investors elsewhere. Your presence here screams FOMO.
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December 17, 2016, 08:46:11 PM |
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Hey guys, I have a question. I have talked to a friend of mine about Iconomi and he has decided to invest 1000€ into iconomi this week, maybe more in the future. He has also asked me to manage his kraken account, and tell him once a week what his balance is. How mch and how should I charge him. Based on performance, % of his account per week/month? I dont want ti rip him off, so give me a realistic measure of what I should charge him.
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December 17, 2016, 08:51:20 PM |
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I see ChronoBank is the next ICONOMI Hardly. Its a good project but its potential growth is smaller. First, adoption of crypto world in many countries is quite slow (from people point of view and also from government). Secondly, their idea can be much easier copied (it is not so revolutionary as Iconomi). And thirldy, Iconomi team made before Cashilla which is kind a complementary with Iconomi. Chronobank did not do anything similar in the past I won't comment if ChronoBank will be successful or not long term since it's all speculation and we are still years away of crypto going truly mainstream. However your arguments could be applied just the same to Iconomi. They seem to have plenty of connections and experience with real companies and employees, they are not coming from nothing. If they manage to cut expenses compared to other options as they said, their business will flourish. I think this is similar to Lykke (that's much more focused on banking, money transfer, etc but I believe they still aim for services exchanges). I think what distinguishes ChronoBank from other cryptoprojects is that LH tokens will actually have parity with current real world currencies. Let's face it, ETH, BTC, XMR are hardly spent or used daily because people hoard them. Volatility is the final nail on the coffin and the reason you can't really build a real world/daily business strictly based on cryptocurrencies other than a exchange or a betting site The time tokens on the other hand are basically company shares which will receive dividends if the company grows (just like ICN). I was a bit unfair to note just what I see from negative side. Of course your comment summarizes good points which I agree. I am still worried about those negative sides though I've been doing some more research on ChronoBank and you can read a great review at https://www.smithandcrown.com/participate-chronobank-crowdsale/What's very interesting is this Edway group...they are basically coming up with Chronobank to solve their own problems, so that basically guarantees the project will have clients and employees already. This is a major advantage since it's basically the hardest part for any ico or new company (Iconomi for example will have to heavily promote its service to fiat investors, unless they already have some). Now, there are a lot of cons and question marks of course too but it's really a genuine and unique approach to actually use bring blockchain to the masses and be a solution, not a possibility. If crypto ever becomes a powerful industry in this new economy projects like Iconomi, Chronobank, Golem, Steem, Factom, Storj/Sia, ArcadeCity, etc, who are focused on a sector, niche or service will be the cornerstones of it. This assuming they have time to develop before the real boom and keep improving and adapting. That's why old giants like IBM, Microsoft and many others are still kings and trustable companies. Guys... please fuck your selves elsewhere. no one here gives a shit about your chrono cunt fuck. Actually we are discussing this because Iconomi most likely already invested on the ICO for the performance fund, so please don't be disrespectful. Your excuse to talk about Chrono proves you know very little about the investment process. First of all everything is transparent and all investments can be seen here: https://ico.iconomi.net/about-icnx-index Second Iconomi will not consider investing into any ICO as any crypto has to be at least two months old to be considered in the Index. Please find your dumb investors elsewhere. Your presence here screams FOMO. WTF are you talking about? While it's not confirmed, Iconomi could potentially invest in this ICO, just as it already did with Golem (surprise, you don't even know what we are talking about here, it's the performance fund not the index, get a clue). I'm not shilling this ICO, we are just discussing it because there's speculation based on photos of Iconomi team with Chronobank people, just like it happened with Kraken. Wings DAO is a another ICO that I think Iconomi will take part in if it didn't already happen. So please do your research first and understand the difference between the index and the performance fund before calling names and writing nonsense.
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December 17, 2016, 08:53:14 PM |
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I see ChronoBank is the next ICONOMI Hardly. Its a good project but its potential growth is smaller. First, adoption of crypto world in many countries is quite slow (from people point of view and also from government). Secondly, their idea can be much easier copied (it is not so revolutionary as Iconomi). And thirldy, Iconomi team made before Cashilla which is kind a complementary with Iconomi. Chronobank did not do anything similar in the past I won't comment if ChronoBank will be successful or not long term since it's all speculation and we are still years away of crypto going truly mainstream. However your arguments could be applied just the same to Iconomi. They seem to have plenty of connections and experience with real companies and employees, they are not coming from nothing. If they manage to cut expenses compared to other options as they said, their business will flourish. I think this is similar to Lykke (that's much more focused on banking, money transfer, etc but I believe they still aim for services exchanges). I think what distinguishes ChronoBank from other cryptoprojects is that LH tokens will actually have parity with current real world currencies. Let's face it, ETH, BTC, XMR are hardly spent or used daily because people hoard them. Volatility is the final nail on the coffin and the reason you can't really build a real world/daily business strictly based on cryptocurrencies other than a exchange or a betting site The time tokens on the other hand are basically company shares which will receive dividends if the company grows (just like ICN). I was a bit unfair to note just what I see from negative side. Of course your comment summarizes good points which I agree. I am still worried about those negative sides though I've been doing some more research on ChronoBank and you can read a great review at https://www.smithandcrown.com/participate-chronobank-crowdsale/What's very interesting is this Edway group...they are basically coming up with Chronobank to solve their own problems, so that basically guarantees the project will have clients and employees already. This is a major advantage since it's basically the hardest part for any ico or new company (Iconomi for example will have to heavily promote its service to fiat investors, unless they already have some). Now, there are a lot of cons and question marks of course too but it's really a genuine and unique approach to actually use bring blockchain to the masses and be a solution, not a possibility. If crypto ever becomes a powerful industry in this new economy projects like Iconomi, Chronobank, Golem, Steem, Factom, Storj/Sia, ArcadeCity, etc, who are focused on a sector, niche or service will be the cornerstones of it. This assuming they have time to develop before the real boom and keep improving and adapting. That's why old giants like IBM, Microsoft and many others are still kings and trustable companies. Guys... please fuck your selves elsewhere. no one here gives a shit about your chrono cunt fuck. Actually we are discussing this because Iconomi most likely already invested on the ICO for the performance fund, so please don't be disrespectful. Your excuse to talk about Chrono proves you know very little about the investment process. First of all everything is transparent and all investments can be seen here: https://ico.iconomi.net/about-icnx-index Second Iconomi will not consider investing into any ICO as any crypto has to be at least two months old to be considered in the Index. Please find your dumb investors elsewhere. Your presence here screams FOMO. You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. You are talking about ICNX. ICNP CAN invest into Chronobank. They would announce that after ICO is over. Chronobank and ICNX have nothing to do with each other.
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December 17, 2016, 08:59:54 PM |
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So don't panic To be safe, it'll be wise to withdraw ICN from Kraken to ETH desktop wallet or MyEtherWallet.
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jackiedragon
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Crypto Future here i come
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December 17, 2016, 09:07:51 PM |
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What happen with 10 days again?? On December 28, we get access to this and much more... People will finally realize that ICONOMI delivers actual products on their promises. ICN will then reach top 3 on Market Cap. Good luck finding ICN at current prices after December 28 Hope we get some Infos from the early access users
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December 17, 2016, 09:14:43 PM |
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$1 ICN here we come!
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