[AMC]-The Official Active Mining Cooperative Discussion

[steveioio]

For the ones who cant assimilate what AMC is about and what its aims are, and the ones who don't feel they are getting the right/enough information. AND the new participants who havnt been following the AMC story from the start, maybe the chart could tell you something. Because .0008 was a stable price where sentiment was without any of this news known by the then holders. Selling below this, WITHOUT bad news, is illogical for people who want to make money, and investors alike. Yes i bought.

That's not quite right because if I'm not wrong the news release has itself come under some scrutiny as to the realistic or not pricing of future machines - that's certainly been discussed today. Also there is still a NDA in place which seems odd as the relationship has now been revealed by AMC. What is the problem with eASIC giving us some numbers? On top of that there has been some amateurish moves by AMC on the trading floor today so some people may find a bit of concern in that and price accordingly.

[lewicki]

Unfortunately the burnt fingers were mostly weak hands. A stock is healthier without them - that's the cruel truth. The canny operators are the ones who did not sell. Today's opportunistic sellers who plan to buy back in will most likely make a loss unless they time it well. The price will be back at 0.0025 within a few days.

Not trying to stir up the bee's hive but "+1" on this post because it really sums it up nicely. Lmfao on the dialogue that follows. I am confident that the price will be back at 0.0025 in a few days & higher after that. Perhaps some newcomers invested assuming that crypto stocks was a way to "get rich quick".

Really, this is the truth. The volume will be too low on the way back up for sellers to get back in below the price they sold at.

[steveioio]

'Muppet' is also a legacy finance metaphor.

You are wrong - these people actually ARE Muppets.

[Vbs]

We need an AMC blog or something like that, because the FUD here is just insane. Even when I try to answer questions being raised, it'll be lost on all that gets thrown around.

The questions about the number of shares have been asked and answered over and over again, simply because they get lost in here.

Vbs, looking at the latest share holder list, what is your feeling for what has transpired today? Is the total number of investors down? Have any share holders grown their position? Is there anything else that can be guessed/inferred from the figures?

Long-term inverstors kept their shares, even with the possibility of jumping ship. That says alot.

The fact the thread has been filled with so much FUD for the last 24h makes me believe there's been a huge effort to take the price down, making unexperienced investors sell their shares as cheaply as possible. This is a great deal for manipulators, as the can buy into AMC at a low price, while the unexperienced have already paid the .0025, helping fund the NRE.

Anyone that bought from Ken at .0025 and already sold, just gave away that opportunity.

So, basically AMC delivers very exciting news, but the price goes all the way down? Yeah, right!!!

[stereotype]

For the ones who cant assimilate what AMC is about and what its aims are, and the ones who don't feel they are getting the right/enough information. AND the new participants who havnt been following the AMC story from the start, maybe the chart could tell you something. Because .0008 was a stable price where sentiment was without any of this news known by the then holders. Selling below this, WITHOUT bad news, is illogical for people who want to make money, and investors alike. Yes i bought.

That's not quite right because if I'm not wrong the news release has itself come under some scrutiny as to the realistic or not pricing of future machines - that's certainly been discussed today. Also there is still a NDA in place which seems odd as the relationship has now been revealed by AMC. What is the problem with eASIC giving us some numbers? On top of that there has been some amateurish moves by AMC on the trading floor today so some people may find a bit of concern in that and price accordingly.

You're very entertaining steveioio, but im thinking you need to ease off the go-fast stuff abit maybe.  

[steveioio]

The fact the thread has been filled with so much FUD for the last 24h makes me believe there's been a huge effort to take the price down, making unexperienced investors sell their shares as cheaply as possible. This is a great deal for manipulators, as the can buy into AMC at a low price,

If that's the case why is no-one buying at 0.001? It's almost pre-news bargain price. I think no conspiracy just lack of confidence.

[Vbs]

The fact the thread has been filled with so much FUD for the last 24h makes me believe there's been a huge effort to take the price down, making unexperienced investors sell their shares as cheaply as possible. This is a great deal for manipulators, as the can buy into AMC at a low price,

If that's the case why is no-one buying at 0.001? It's almost pre-news bargain price. I think no conspiracy just lack of confidence.

I'm sure the FUD on this thread being 99% speculation and 1% only for discussing the actual news and projections for AMC has a huge part in that.

People are scared. It will pass.

[steveioio]

You're very entertaining steveioio, but im thinking you need to ease off the go-fast stuff abit maybe.  

I'll accept that as a compliment but needless to say it's a very STRANGE one.

[btct22]

Ken, dhenson has already posted the link: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-22

I have some options that expire in just over an hour and as it stands right now I don't know if I'm going to put any more money towards this project.

Please re-assure me and the other investors that your claims are genuine by posting additional evidence.

[lewicki]

Well, 'strong hand' is indeed a finance term. Seems to me, the confusion is originating at your end.  

For the sake of sanity, stop trolling and make at least one more post outside of this thread. Your role on this forum and thread is so damn obvious.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=99763;sa=showPosts

And so is yours? You both showed up at the same time. Give it a break.

[steveioio]

People are scared. It will pass.

But 'manipulators' would be all over this at 0.001. There is no conspiracy to dump n buy otherwise we would be back up already. Only one way out of this and that is complete transparency. There are only so many fools in this world.

[lolstate]

We need an AMC blog or something like that, because the FUD here is just insane. Even when I try to answer questions being raised, it'll be lost on all that gets thrown around.

The questions about the number of shares have been asked and answered over and over again, simply because they get lost in here.

Vbs, looking at the latest share holder list, what is your feeling for what has transpired today? Is the total number of investors down? Have any share holders grown their position? Is there anything else that can be guessed/inferred from the figures?

Long-term inverstors kept their shares, even with the possibility of jumping ship. That says alot.

The fact the thread has been filled with so much FUD for the last 24h makes me believe there's been a huge effort to take the price down, making unexperienced investors sell their shares as cheaply as possible. This is a great deal for manipulators, as the can buy into AMC at a low price, while the unexperienced have already paid the .0025, helping fund the NRE.

Anyone that bought from Ken at .0025 and already sold, just gave away that opportunity.

So, basically AMC delivers very exciting news, but the price goes all the way down? Yeah, right!!!

I agree with your analysis. The 'old timers' holding their positions is very revealing.

At current prices, this could be the last great buying opportunity for those that are fleet of foot.

[steveioio]

I agree with your analysis. The 'old timers' holding their positions is very revealing.

At current prices, this could be the last great buying opportunity for those that are fleet of foot.

You consider that 'analysis'? Pure conjecture. There are no 'old timers' in this. The old timers make their money in the real world, 10-20% compounding pa. This is small beans and no-one here, excepting me, knows what they are on about.

Do not put anymore into this venture until you see the goods. 20-30% of those still holding are unable to get to their terminal or haven't found out yet what has gone down today. So tomorrow - more selling. Don't throw good money after bad.

[lolstate]

I agree with your analysis. The 'old timers' holding their positions is very revealing.

At current prices, this could be the last great buying opportunity for those that are fleet of foot.

You consider that 'analysis'? Pure conjecture. There are no 'old timers' in this. The old timers make their money in the real world, 10-20% compounding pa. This is small beans and no-one here, excepting me, knows what they are on about.

Do not put anymore into this venture until you see the goods. 20-30% of those still holding are unable to get to their terminal or haven't found out yet what has gone down today. So tomorrow - more selling. Don't throw good money after bad.

This post has confirmed to me that you are trolling or possibly an ego maniac who likes the sound of his own typing. Please don't address me again.

[Vbs]

Ken, dhenson has already posted the link: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-22

I have some options that expire in just over an hour and as it stands right now I don't know if I'm going to put any more money towards this project.

Please re-assure me and the other investors that your claims are genuine by posting additional evidence.

Thanks for that!

So, each Jupiter will use 4x100GH/s chips at <=1000W, each chip using a 55x55 package.

Each chip is thus 250W, so I will expect them to use a cooler the size of a graphics card, per chip.

On 250W, we can fit about 16.667 of AMC's chips (let's say 15W each), for a rated performance of 16.667x16=266.667 GH/s.

You know, like someone said, "the devil is in the details"

[steveioio]

This post has confirmed to me that you are trolling or possibly an ego maniac who likes the sound of his own typing. Please don't address me again.

Get a grip.

[pneumatic5]

For the ones who cant assimilate what AMC is about and what its aims are, and the ones who don't feel they are getting the right/enough information. AND the new participants who havnt been following the AMC story from the start, maybe the chart could tell you something. Because .0008 was a stable price where sentiment was without any of this news known by the then holders. Selling below this, WITHOUT bad news, is illogical for people who want to make money, and investors alike. Yes i bought.

You mean there are good or neutral news? Where? All I have seen is post by kslaughter on supposed partnership with eASIC and horde of mindless
followers and (paid) shills cheering it, like it has some real value while the truth is nothing is posted except wall of text. Like kslaughter is some very
known and completely trustable person or major company, requiring not much if any proof to back up their claims.

Someone posted an email from the COO of eASIC that they were working together and that they are under an NDA didnt they?

[lolstate]

Ken, dhenson has already posted the link: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-22

I have some options that expire in just over an hour and as it stands right now I don't know if I'm going to put any more money towards this project.

Please re-assure me and the other investors that your claims are genuine by posting additional evidence.

Thanks for that!

So, each Jupiter will use 4x100GH/s chips at <=1000W, each chip using a 55x55 package.

Each chip is thus 250W, so I will expect them to use a cooler the size of a graphics card, per chip.

On 250W, we can fit about 16.667 of AMC's chips (let's say 15W each), for a rated performance of 16.667x16=266.667 GH/s.

You know, like someone said, "the devil is in the details"

Great news! 

[steveioio]

possibly an ego maniac

Best thing said on here all day. lol I can't stop laughing. You da funny man.

[dhenson]

I've posted a buy order on bitfunder @ .000821.

This is high enough for those who bought in during the .0005 and .0008 IPO periods who have cold feet to get out now so we don't have to listen to your FUD any longer.

I believe buying @ this price is a steal and don't mind providing a small amount of support.