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April 11, 2017, 06:56:13 PM
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Kuzmin always owned Mass, he never bought it out.

And the developers were savvy to this, including ThePianist. They KNEW that Kuzmin owned Mass from the get go and just went along with posting lies to save face.

Apparently they were told to present it as Mycellium buying out Mass because that made things look better. Well of course lies can look better than truth, you can tell any sort of tall lies you want!

The whole team has basically committed fraudulent actions at this point.

^What is Kuzmin's relationship to Mycellium?

He owns Mycellium, apparently.

Or at the very least is their CEO.

Are out of ur mind? This is the stupidest statement I have read in a year. According to ur words kuzmin, surgically changed half-human half-idiot and Pianist control mass network. Do u hear urself? Maybe u think that kuzmin is muslim in addition to this? U pulled it out of ur ass. U are practicing masked-man fallacy which is forbidden and, moreover, punishable in my location. Educate urself.
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April 11, 2017, 08:25:26 PM
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Kuzmin always owned Mass, he never bought it out.

And the developers were savvy to this, including ThePianist. They KNEW that Kuzmin owned Mass from the get go and just went along with posting lies to save face.

Apparently they were told to present it as Mycellium buying out Mass because that made things look better. Well of course lies can look better than truth, you can tell any sort of tall lies you want!

The whole team has basically committed fraudulent actions at this point.

^What is Kuzmin's relationship to Mycellium?

He owns Mycellium, apparently.

Or at the very least is their CEO.

Are out of ur mind? This is the stupidest statement I have read in a year. According to ur words kuzmin, surgically changed half-human half-idiot and Pianist control mass network. Do u hear urself? Maybe u think that kuzmin is muslim in addition to this? U pulled it out of ur ass. U are practicing masked-man fallacy which is forbidden and, moreover, punishable in my location. Educate urself.

Telling people to educate themselves while making tons of spelling errors makes you look like a buffoon. Also none of what you said is any kind of argument at all. But I will do you a favor, as well as everyone else in this thread that can't click back 7 pages and post the quote here for all to see.

Please reply here and explain what happened to the project and our money.

Ok, about money. Technical part:
1. All wallets were under Kuzmin's control since ICO start, AFAIK, nobody else has any private keys.
2. ICO website was developed by Mycelium team (Mycelium Gear as a merchant service).

Business part: Kuzmin told that all funds were spent in January, and he stopped paying salaries. But I have no details. He told this "news" to product and project manager (why they won't get salaries...)

So you did not found the project? You were just hired to write some basic software? Then they dropped you because funds were gone?

Yes, project founders are Oschepkov and Kuzmin.

There were fake news:
https://blog.mass.network/mycelium-ceo-acquires-mass-network/

I was very angry, because it was 100% untruth.

But Kuzmin told me that this announce is for PR only, so he could officially become a CEO. I decided not to quit, because everything looked ok, and devs were working. And I wanted to make a release of software.

Why they dropped me in Dec? I don't know, may be because I had so many questions...

But the other team members continue to work on project and worked until he stopped paying anything.


As you can see here Pianist admits to knowing this was dishonest but chose to withhold it from the investors. (To cover his own ass)

@pianist are you not angry with these two fraudsters?
Why did you not come out and tell us this before?

Yes, I became angry several times, but there were no scam intention. For example, Kuzmin told me in Aug that Charlie Shrem will become CEO of Mass, so I decided to join the project. Of course, Charlie rejected his offer.

As a tech guy, I was responsible only for tech questions. Of course, I was unhappy when Oschepkov asked me to create BCT thread, but the reason was that new "official" Mass account could not post images.

There were many-many other bad things, at last I decided to quit. But devs were optimistic, they asked me not to bite the project, they were going to make a good product.

I don't know what to do now, but I don't know anyone who can contact Kuzmin or his partner Oschepkov (Kontegna).


Everyone involved with this stuff is incredibly dishonest.
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April 11, 2017, 08:32:01 PM
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Wait... WHAT ?! this isnt a scam ?!?!.....
lol. trust your instincts I would say

I think you sold.



yes I did. And I think this project is dead


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April 12, 2017, 11:30:44 AM
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April 17, 2017, 10:46:41 AM
 #1145

Maybe we Just have to use The browser And wait.
Project have problems but Maybe in 5 years it doesn't matter.
If You dont have patient or money dont invest. 
Investing is hoping. 
If any wanna sell tell me i buy
I dont give a fuck

Mass to The moon hahahah
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April 17, 2017, 02:41:32 PM
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Maybe we Just have to use The browser And wait.
Project have problems but Maybe in 5 years it doesn't matter.
If You dont have patient or money dont invest. 
Investing is hoping. 
If any wanna sell tell me i buy
I dont give a fuck

Mass to The moon hahahah

The problem isn't with investors losing patience. If they said they were having problems, that'd be... unfortunate but at least we'd know that much.

What's happening now is that we're getting conflicting stories as to the origin of the project with dishonesty at play... not good for investor confidence.

How would investors contact the person they've invested with? They shut down all communication. They kicked everyone out of their public groups and shut those down. If that's not bad enough, asking around warrants you a big "I don't know who you should talk to" from everyone, and mailing them directly seems to net no responses. On top of that, all the ICO money has already been spent.

Hell, you can't even sell your Mass on an exchange and it uses colu for a wallet, people bought an asset that has no use anywhere. You'd have been better off buying an NXT asset because at least you can buy and sell those natively in the client.
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April 17, 2017, 11:35:38 PM
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On March 31 Kuzmin was supposed to attend Fintex Russia conference in Moscow (http://fintechrussia.ru), and have a speech there. Does anyone know if he was there?

Does anyone know what that person is doing now, and where he is located? Is he still in business, or is hiding (from authorities or from public)?

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April 17, 2017, 11:44:16 PM
 #1148

Maybe we Just have to use The browser And wait.
Project have problems but Maybe in 5 years it doesn't matter.
If You dont have patient or money dont invest. 
Investing is hoping. 
If any wanna sell tell me i buy
I dont give a fuck

Mass to The moon hahahah

Moon but without exchange, are you sane? Don't act like a cry babe, this mass is scam and over, Kuzimin screwed investors twice after his bullshit mycelium.  Grin

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April 18, 2017, 12:00:37 AM
 #1149

Maybe we Just have to use The browser And wait.
Project have problems but Maybe in 5 years it doesn't matter.
If You dont have patient or money dont invest. 
Investing is hoping. 
If any wanna sell tell me i buy
I dont give a fuck

Mass to The moon hahahah

Moon but without exchange, are you sane? Don't act like a cry babe, this mass is scam and over, Kuzimin screwed investors twice after his bullshit mycelium.  Grin
LOL that guy has not realized how this project is full of crap. no exchange = no money = no demand = scam project = die . That's so simple. This project full of crap.

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April 18, 2017, 07:43:22 AM
 #1150

Maybe we Just have to use The browser And wait.
Project have problems but Maybe in 5 years it doesn't matter.
If You dont have patient or money dont invest. 
Investing is hoping. 
If any wanna sell tell me i buy
I dont give a fuck

Mass to The moon hahahah

Moon but without exchange, are you sane? Don't act like a cry babe, this mass is scam and over, Kuzimin screwed investors twice after his bullshit mycelium.  Grin
LOL that guy has not realized how this project is full of crap. no exchange = no money = no demand = scam project = die . That's so simple. This project full of crap.

I always win . One way or the other.   
So I dont care .
The project is no priority. 
The few pennies I have invested will double I know it
But time will tell
If not there are lawyers to take care of that
But first I wait a year
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April 26, 2017, 02:45:12 AM
 #1151

Maybe we Just have to use The browser And wait.
Project have problems but Maybe in 5 years it doesn't matter.
If You dont have patient or money dont invest. 
Investing is hoping. 
If any wanna sell tell me i buy
I dont give a fuck

Mass to The moon hahahah

Moon but without exchange, are you sane? Don't act like a cry babe, this mass is scam and over, Kuzimin screwed investors twice after his bullshit mycelium.  Grin
LOL that guy has not realized how this project is full of crap. no exchange = no money = no demand = scam project = die . That's so simple. This project full of crap.

I always win . One way or the other.   
So I dont care .
The project is no priority. 
The few pennies I have invested will double I know it
But time will tell
If not there are lawyers to take care of that
But first I wait a year

there is nothing more to do anyway...

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April 26, 2017, 08:35:23 PM
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FYI

http://bitsonline.com/last-years-mycelium-crowdfund/

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May 07, 2017, 08:15:19 PM
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Remember the roadmap guys?

May - CRITICAL MASS ACHIEVED
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May 08, 2017, 12:12:17 AM
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Anything new?  No updates?
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May 08, 2017, 03:14:07 AM
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Anything new?  No updates?
Project is still alive? Huh
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May 08, 2017, 04:14:33 AM
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come on people, why are you still hoping for this project? it's been abandoned and the dev might just created a new account here and laughing at you while reading your posts of false hopes and wishes.
move on and walk away from this crap.


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May 08, 2017, 09:35:37 AM
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Remember the roadmap guys?

May - CRITICAL MASS ACHIEVED

Critical Mass of BTC stolen.

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May 08, 2017, 10:09:06 AM
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Anything new?  No updates?

Five months already and still no update I don't think the project will still go,it's now considered a scam site there's already a thread in the scam section and look at the title it says irregularities,so this coin is over and done.

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May 08, 2017, 06:23:44 PM
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Anything new?  No updates?

Five months already and still no update I don't think the project will still go,it's now considered a scam site there's already a thread in the scam section and look at the title it says irregularities,so this coin is over and done.
I'm actually a bit curious about something though.

Was Alexander Kuzmin actually the person involved with this project?

Was any of the team who they stated they were?
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May 08, 2017, 07:42:56 PM
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Anything new?  No updates?

Five months already and still no update I don't think the project will still go,it's now considered a scam site there's already a thread in the scam section and look at the title it says irregularities,so this coin is over and done.
I'm actually a bit curious about something though.

Was Alexander Kuzmin actually the person involved with this project?

Was any of the team who they stated they were?

This has been confirmed by members of Mycelium.

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