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September 30, 2016, 10:35:06 AM |
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The stock market is 70% overvalued ... crash now inevitable![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomsphoenix.com%2FUploads%2FGraphics%2F693-0927072750-stock-market.jpg&t=665&c=XXGCpeE43jSMaw) Author Charles Dickens' classic, A Tale of Two Cities, begins this way: "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness ... ."
According to one stock market analytical firm, GMO, today's market behavior resembles Dickens' book, which was published in 1859 and was set during the time of the French Revolution some seven decades earlier.
As the firm noted, in recent days much of the investing and financial world was focused on a meeting in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, attended by Federal Reserve chairperson Janet Yellen. But GMO analysts were watching other things and events happening in the market.
In August, the firm noted in its monthly report – reproduced in part by Zero Hedge – that Shiller P/E, a respected metric for measuring U.S. equities valuation, surpassed 27. Given that normally its range is somewhere slightly above 16, it appears that valuations are looking a bit larger than they should be.
What's more, GMO noted, the last time the Shiller P/E was above 27 was in October 2007, "and we all know how that movie ended," the GMO report said.
'A tale of mediocrity, at best'
And though no one at the analytical firm is saying that the nation and the world are set to experience another Great Recession and near-meltdown of the global economic order – and nothing is written in stone saying that stocks are not allowed to become more expensive – "we continue to maintain our bias against U.S. stocks," the firm said in its report.
At the same time, the firm said, it was tracking a widening disconnect between fundamentals of the U.S. economy, corporate America and their stocks. "It really is a tale of two cities," the analytics firms said, "one of mediocre fundamentals versus a meteoric rise in markets."
In assembling some relevant metrics pertaining to the overall health of the economy and some top-line/bottom-line figures from the S&P 500 index, the firm looked at gross domestic product growth, productivity and household income, in addition to some others like revenue and earnings for U.S. stocks, just to round out the assessment.
"It is a tale of mediocrity, at best," the firm wrote in its report.
After that, analysts contrasted those metrics with actual market returns of the S&P 500 Index spanning the past five years. "Truly meteoric," the firm wrote, adding this caveat: "As an aside, we at GMO have always been leery of drawing too many investment conclusions from staring at economic data–we are more valuation-oriented, after all–but even we are struck by the divergence." Read more at http://www.naturalnews.com/055447_stock_market_crash_bubble_economy_Wall_Street.html.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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September 30, 2016, 10:48:30 AM Last edit: October 03, 2016, 03:08:27 PM by lakisis |
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yeah bitcoin really very good investment for now because bitcoin price is very stable and good to buy and there is a huge number of people are going to increase its price too much faster in the near future and i hope we will be get a good profit from bitcoin .
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September 30, 2016, 10:51:46 AM |
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Markets are mostly sensitive to external factors & volatile and any investment takes some sort of risk...diversifying investment is one option...
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September 30, 2016, 11:04:11 AM |
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Investing in bitcoins, how to put it, is not that simple i would say. You need to invest and trade if u want to earn faster but it has a higher risk as well because of the volatile market. then comes just investing and holding them which is not earning. maybe investing in potentially good alternate crytocurrency can be a good idea.
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September 30, 2016, 11:19:50 AM |
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Bitcoin is a good investment now, because...all the other traditional investment platforms aren't giving any serious returns to the investors. People can barely beat the inflation or make some wealth in the long term. This is where it's wise to invest into bitcoin and other rising altcoins which can give 10x to 20x returns and even more if things go well enough.
The crypto currency has very low to nil correlation to the assets compared to the traditional investments. Hence, investors can use them as a tool to hedge their portfolio.
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September 30, 2016, 12:16:45 PM |
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Regardless of the stock market prices and crashes "and these crashes are inevitable all the time anyway" I think bitcoin is generally a good investment, The world economy improved after the previous economical crisis but still hasn't completely recovered and BTC is a safer investment for the current time than any fiat.
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September 30, 2016, 12:19:56 PM |
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Bitcoin is a great investment because it's worth over $600 per coin despite still relatively being in its infancy. The potential is huge & you could today pay $600 for 1 coin which could be worth 10 x that in 5-10 years, maybe more.
Bitcoin is an incredibly wise asset to invest in right now.
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October 23, 2016, 01:23:30 PM |
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Bitcoin is a good investment for now because bitcoin is the financial asset that's performed easier than any other currency. Also bitcoin has been one of the most amazing currencies to watch in the history of mankind and even the value of bitcoin is as strong as as our trust and also good to invest bitcoin now because the value is stable than the past years.
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October 23, 2016, 01:29:42 PM |
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yeah bitcoin really very good investment for now because bitcoin price is very stable and good to buy and there is a huge number of people are going to increase its price too much faster in the near future and i hope we will be get a good profit from bitcoin .
Ok let me complete the Sentence. Bitcoin is a good investment now, because ... Bitcoin is the emerging digital currency which will be adopted by masses in the future. and currently very few people world wide know about this currency.
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October 23, 2016, 01:56:58 PM |
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yeah bitcoin really very good investment for now because bitcoin price is very stable and good to buy and there is a huge number of people are going to increase its price too much faster in the near future and i hope we will be get a good profit from bitcoin .
Ok let me complete the Sentence. Bitcoin is a good investment now, because ... Bitcoin is the emerging digital currency which will be adopted by masses in the future. and currently very few people world wide know about this currency. Bitcoin is a good investment because we are getting some benefits like price increase easy to use when we are buying things online that accepting bitcoin as payment.. bitcoin for me is always good to choose to invest and you can make more profit if you hold more bitcoins for a long time.
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October 23, 2016, 02:15:48 PM |
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Bitcoin is a good investment now, because...now,it ha a good price and it has a good possibility to gain more in the future.As more people are joining,the demand becomes higher and so with bitcoin price value. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 23, 2016, 02:26:57 PM |
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regular thinking has gone out the window for any market valuation any more. property, stocks, they're all being propped up and kept moving with some very creative moves. who knows what the future holds? maybe they can keep it up until some genuine prosperity returns.
as for bitcoin, i'm happy to buy it whatever the rest of the world is up to. and I don't believe it responds to other market moves. traders might use them as an excuse and that's it.
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October 23, 2016, 05:27:38 PM |
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Bitcoin has always been a good investment since 2014 when it's stagnating and being undervalued. Upon checking the current stock markets scene and reading some articles in regards to it, I can say that a big hit would strike the scene again and might hurt a lot of investors (I'm one of them) and might turn into something else for a safe haven on their assets--probably gold, oil or even bitcoin.
Thanks for the share btw. Made me want to grab that book again on my shelf and re-visit those particular parts.
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October 23, 2016, 05:36:26 PM |
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bitcoin is really a good investment as it can give us a good profit only for holding it, as people are expecting that the price is going to raise too high in next few months therefore it will be really a good investment.
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October 23, 2016, 05:37:39 PM |
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Bitcoin has been the best performing "currency" of all currencies in the world for the last 3 years in a row... yes, in some countries are not defined as a currency, but we all know that is it's still open for debate. If you use it as a currency, it is a currency. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I have not invested in any commodity with the returns I have received from Bitcoin so far, so it is pretty good. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 23, 2016, 05:41:26 PM |
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Bitcoin has been performing well historically, and there are always plenty of opportunities to buy low and sell high. It's easy to invest in and easy to make money out of, but you need to remember that there is always risk involved. That said, Bitcoin is currently the main cryptocurrency used, and it doesn't look like that'll change soon. You can even earn by holding; that's how profitable it is.
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October 23, 2016, 06:22:32 PM |
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bitcoin is really a good investment as it can give us a good profit only for holding it, as people are expecting that the price is going to raise too high in next few months therefore it will be really a good investment.
Yup agree that buddy. Holding will be best option in one of way of bitcoin investment. Most of the people here in the forum use to hold their bitcoins for future. even I holded nearly 0.5 bitcoins in my desktop wallet. I believe that this will help me to earn more profit in future.
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October 23, 2016, 06:27:55 PM |
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Bitcoin is alternative for fiat and gold now, in moments when there is problem with gold or fiat people will turn to bitcoin. I don`t say people will run to buy bitcoins, I expect people to get more interested in crypto currencies and to make their own research. Investing now in bitcoins is great, price is under 1000 dollars, and we can easily see that price before new year. Buy now or regret later was and is bitcoin moto from my start, this is exactly that moment when people who are brave and buy will make profit, others will just watch others get rich.
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While I am happy that bitcoin might be an asset investors will seek in case of stock market crash. At the same time, I don't want it to become flavor of the month and "buy some BTC now, dump later when stock market will recover" type of investment. I am secretly waiting for round 2 of that 2008 economic crisis - this time it might start in Europe when Deutsche Bank will finally fall.
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October 23, 2016, 08:22:42 PM |
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yes bitcoin is really good invest now because its price is expecting to raise high in next few months, some people are even expecting that the price of bitcoin can cross the all time high price this time. therefore to me it is the best investment in present time.
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