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Topic: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet (Read 27979 times)
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 16, 2013, 07:48:45 PM
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Hey Luke-Jr, still believe your own words?
Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 09, 2013, 08:13:14 PM
I think they're sore losers who shouldn't be betting if they can't take responsibility for making sure the bet terms satisfy them.
They should be glad it was declared a draw rather than a win for the pre-April side.
after reading what most rational thinkers take from this situation:
Quote from: dg2010 on April 16, 2013, 10:49:57 AM
Quote from: Syke on April 16, 2013, 06:03:55 AM
Quote from: dg2010 on April 15, 2013, 04:29:17 PM
This is pretty disgusting in my opinion.
Luke-JR used his standing within the community to boost BFL's status when it needed it most.
Fortunately most of us are smart enough to tell the difference between a rushed engineering sample and a shipped customer product.
In this case it's clear to me that Luke-JR receiving the first public BFL and his subsequent posting to be a calculated decision in an attempt to garner positive marketing around their unreleased product.
I can understand if they wanted to send him one for him to some technical work on the software/firmware to help them with their hashrate for example, but he should not have posted it up knowing full well that it's a pre-release item.
But BFL didn't ship anything! Luke-jr posted a picture taken by Josh at BFL factory. The device never left the factory.
I was not aware of that. If that is true, Luke-JR is basically a fucking scammer.
Does dg2010 sound like an angry bettor that can't take responsibility? Reads coldly logical to me. This is the simple summary most users will take away from this thread Luke. You think the community worked to manipulate that?
coinjedi & Luke-jr - I highly doubt either of you will reverse yourselves on this matter, but that is the only way to bring closure. I personally won't stop discouraging bettors from using Betsofbitco.in, linking them to this thread. Luke-Jr you have showed your true colors on this matter, and I hope you were coerced or bribed or something to at least make sense of your actions. If you did this for free, at Josh's bidding, well that's just a horrible decision.
Further more if BFL took advantage of some religious, impressionable coder-kiddie to manipulate a bet that's a new low even for them.
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 16, 2013, 08:18:01 PM
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Quote from: Micon on April 16, 2013, 07:48:45 PM
Luke-Jr you have showed your true colors on this matter, and I hope you were coerced or bribed or something to at least make sense of your actions. If you did this for free, at Josh's bidding, well that's just a horrible decision.
Greed is a comprehensible, if not admirable motive. If Luke-Jr did this for free, he is some kind of retard who should be protected from himself. What an argument for a nanny state!
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 16, 2013, 08:44:49 PM
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How is it that Luke-Jr ended up going to BFL HQ anyway?
I thought the community elected Kano and Yochdog for the job:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112543.msg1358390#msg1358390
Anyone know?
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 16, 2013, 11:19:32 PM
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Quote from: Bogart on April 16, 2013, 08:44:49 PM
How is it that Luke-Jr ended up going to BFL HQ anyway?
I thought the community elected Kano and Yochdog for the job:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112543.msg1358390#msg1358390
Anyone know?
BFL gave Luke a hug and in return he helped BFL scamming this bet. Do you really think that would work on anybody but Luke?
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 17, 2013, 12:30:01 AM
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Quote from: Minor Miner on April 14, 2013, 05:11:51 AM
Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 14, 2013, 12:47:22 AM
Visit the following
http://alphapcbdesigns.com/
and click Testimonies.
It took me several hours, but I was able to narrow down the possibilities.
The reason the search term is shifted to the right is because at first I thought I was only going to crop the map, later opting to crop in the text on the left side of the map.
I love that when you click on the testimonials page you get "click back SOON to read testimonials from satisfied customers". Does that mean BFL was their first.
Ironically, the same exact page(s) has been up for 7 years now:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060824041322/http://www.alphapcbdesigns.com/
And not a single testimonial. Hell, even BFL hasn't given them one. Perhaps that is why BFL contracted them to do their BCPs--all the positive testimonials (and they are Greek). Which begs the question, who came first? Nasser or Vleisides? Nasser claims to bringing onboard Sonny in spite of his background, yet BFL's first facility was owned by Sonny's step dad.
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 17, 2013, 01:00:31 AM
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Compare:
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http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tom-bassias/7/b70/763
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 17, 2013, 01:06:59 AM
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Quote from: darkmule on April 16, 2013, 08:18:01 PM
Quote from: Micon on April 16, 2013, 07:48:45 PM
Luke-Jr you have showed your true colors on this matter, and I hope you were coerced or bribed or something to at least make sense of your actions. If you did this for free, at Josh's bidding, well that's just a horrible decision.
Greed is a comprehensible, if not admirable motive. If Luke-Jr did this for free, he is some kind of retard who should be protected from himself. What an argument for a nanny state!
He got paid alright. BFL is running a prototype at their warehouse and letting Luke-jr have all the bitcoins generated by it.
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1CdcYVP4T4hjHwt353pEnGHrigeDLvuvZL
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 17, 2013, 05:38:17 AM
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Quote from: Syke on April 17, 2013, 01:06:59 AM
Quote from: darkmule on April 16, 2013, 08:18:01 PM
Quote from: Micon on April 16, 2013, 07:48:45 PM
Luke-Jr you have showed your true colors on this matter, and I hope you were coerced or bribed or something to at least make sense of your actions. If you did this for free, at Josh's bidding, well that's just a horrible decision.
Greed is a comprehensible, if not admirable motive. If Luke-Jr did this for free, he is some kind of retard who should be protected from himself. What an argument for a nanny state!
He got paid alright. BFL is running a prototype at their warehouse and letting Luke-jr have all the bitcoins generated by it.
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1CdcYVP4T4hjHwt353pEnGHrigeDLvuvZL
So now we have prove that Luke lied to the community because of greed. Disgusting. He should get a scammer tag, but unfortunately we know that theymos will never do this.
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 17, 2013, 06:36:11 AM
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Quote from: Syke on April 17, 2013, 01:06:59 AM
He got paid alright. BFL is running a prototype at their warehouse and letting Luke-jr have all the bitcoins generated by it.
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1CdcYVP4T4hjHwt353pEnGHrigeDLvuvZL
Okay. So he's a scammer. At least he didn't go full retard.
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 20, 2013, 01:32:16 AM
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Dragline: Nothin'. A handful of nothin'. You stupid mullet head. He beat you with nothin'. Just like today when he kept comin' back at me - with nothin'.
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 20, 2013, 09:05:17 PM
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Dear coinjedi / betsofbitco.in,
There are more similar bets that are possibly not up to your legal standards, having to do with the same topic. Two examples with the highest amount of coins are
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1444
and
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=665
. It would be super cool if you could give us 5 minutes of your time and choose one of the two actions:
1. Refund all the coins to everybody, in case you think that the text in the aforementioned bets is such that the outcome is impossible to decide.
OR
2. Confirm that these bets are decidable.
Thank you in advance,
Jim
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 22, 2013, 08:46:43 AM
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Quote from: jim667 on April 20, 2013, 09:05:17 PM
Dear coinjedi / betsofbitco.in,
There are more similar bets that are possibly not up to your legal standards, having to do with the same topic. Two examples with the highest amount of coins are
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1444
and
http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=665
. It would be super cool if you could give us 5 minutes of your time and choose one of the two actions:
1. Refund all the coins to everybody, in case you think that the text in the aforementioned bets is such that the outcome is impossible to decide.
OR
2. Confirm that these bets are decidable.
Thank you in advance,
Jim
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 22, 2013, 09:06:49 PM
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Quote from: MPOE-PR on April 22, 2013, 08:46:43 AM
Jim has a point.
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 23, 2013, 05:22:04 PM
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First customer unit shipped on 4/22. Never trust betsofbitco.in again. They failed.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/136-shipping-update.html#comment1490
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 23, 2013, 05:54:05 PM
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 23, 2013, 06:00:34 PM
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Does this mean they can be marked as scammers?
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April 24, 2013, 06:02:35 AM
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Quote from: AndyRossy on April 23, 2013, 06:00:34 PM
Does this mean they can be marked as scammers?
Looks pretty cut-and-dry to me.
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 24, 2013, 11:58:24 PM
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Not only should betsofbitco.in get a scammer tag Luke-Jr should get one as an accomplice. I doubt its going to happen though.
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 25, 2013, 02:05:41 AM
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Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 06, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
Last 3 trolls seem to be missing the fact that the bet deadline was at the end of April 1, not the start of it.
I have no interest in this bet either way, but this alone would seem to decide the bet. Luke, you're not stupid, so how can you get this so wrong? Are you still claiming to have no interest in the bet? Do you claim that April 1st is before April 1st?
The title was "Butterfly Labs will not ship ASIC-based Bitforce SC products
before April 2013
" and the body said "For this statement to be false, both of the two following conditions must be met:
Before April 1st 2013
, at least one BFL customer [...]".
Something happening
in
April does not happen
before
April, by the definition of "before".
Shouldn't that be the end of it?
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Re: coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet
April 25, 2013, 06:04:27 AM
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Quote from: dooglus on April 25, 2013, 02:05:41 AM
Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 06, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
Last 3 trolls seem to be missing the fact that the bet deadline was at the end of April 1, not the start of it.
I have no interest in this bet either way, but this alone would seem to decide the bet. Luke, you're not stupid, so how can you get this so wrong? Are you still claiming to have no interest in the bet? Do you claim that April 1st is before April 1st?
The title was "Butterfly Labs will not ship ASIC-based Bitforce SC products
before April 2013
" and the body said "For this statement to be false, both of the two following conditions must be met:
Before April 1st 2013
, at least one BFL customer [...]".
Something happening
in
April does not happen
before
April, by the definition of "before".
Shouldn't that be the end of it?
I'd be inclined to think so...
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