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[maria.may]

help , please  

how much did you invest if it's not a secret? and at what price did you byu zcl?

about 0.178 btc , bought on 0.0075 btc

maria.may I should kill myself, I bough 100zcl for $ 90 (9000$), and the others are stuck in battlex, I hope I will get btcp and make up for a loss, if we do not go further

This is horrible, I sincerely sympathize with you, it is really terrible and terrible to lose such a sum of money, we are in terrible condition, many trusted this coin. Why they did -1000% per day, I've never seen such a drop of coins, it's a terrible case.

This coin is a disaster as it was with urocoin
Who is buying this scam?

0,00075754 BTC price , i have 0.01779 btc now   -1000%

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[JcJet]

But seriousy, why don't you investors haven't just bought Bitcoin?
Waited for x100?
On every market big proffits also means big risk.

[maria.may]

But seriousy, why don't you investors haven't just bought Bitcoin?
Waited for x100?
On every market big proffits also means big risk.

I was counting on bouncing at low

[oldbit]

But seriousy, why don't you investors haven't just bought Bitcoin?
Waited for x100?
On every market big proffits also means big risk.

I was counting on bouncing at low

@maria.may but more at lower level. that way you can recover your losses if and when it bounces. the true level of this coin is 11k satoshi.

forking this coin and cloning other unique coin is the scam of reth creighton. Study his trend and you will see his modus. That guy should be jailed.

[maria.may]

But seriousy, why don't you investors haven't just bought Bitcoin?
Waited for x100?
On every market big proffits also means big risk.

I was counting on bouncing at low

@maria.may but more at lower level. that way you can recover your losses if and when it bounces. the true level of this coin is 11k satoshi.

forking this coin and cloning other unique coin is the scam of reth creighton. Study his trend and you will see his modus. That guy should be jailed.

I understand .. thank you
full of despair, this is punishment, I did not think of such falling zcl

[kaszebe1]

You people are dumb sheeps !

A bunch of scammers tells you bullshit about blockchain and "cryptocurrencies" and you , in your infinite greed , belive those scammers !

Dont you see how similar all that coins are ?  Why bitcoin is 11k$ and zcl is now 9$ ? They work in the same way (dont belive in bullshit about privacy in zcl).

Chceck who invited algorithm used in BTC and many others (SHA256)  ... It was NSA you dumbers !. In 1996 NSA had plan how to make cryptos.

You think BTCP will be valuable ?  Do you  realize that BTCP has nothing more to offer that ZCL ?  Greedy devs of ZCL wanted earn big money but ZCL (which was in fact clone of ZEC) failed ... so they made a "fork" to give all the sheeps their shitty coin ... Now they have your money and you have nothing ... i belive you will get BTCP ...but its worthless.

All cryptos are worthless ... When you give someone money and he gives you cryptos  it doesnt mean that now you and he have money ! No ,  since that monent he have money and you have worthless points generated through senseless wasting of electric power...

I dont want to blame you ... I was too blind of vision of easy money ... but we all should realize that cryptos are junks ...

One more thing ... All that bullshit about Satoshi Nakamoto ... Do you really thinks that someone who could make billions choose to stay anonymus and give all technology for free ?  grow up !

[Haze The Hobo]

You people are dumb sheeps !

Dont you see how similar all that coins are ?  Why bitcoin is 11k$ and zcl is now 9$ ? They work in the same way (dont belive in bullshit about privacy in zcl).

Tell me please, how is the privacy part bullshit? I would like to hear an detailed explanation, since you seem to be technical mastermind.

Also cryptos are not junk. The paper we call money is junk. Money has same pow (proof of work) concept as cryptos. Banks are blockchains in the "real world" and they are centralized. Even worse is that these blockchains are controlled by certain group of people. This means banks can create new money out of thin air as much as they like. I would call money one of the biggest scams in the world. It has always been and always will be, if we don't go in the way of decentralization.

[kaszebe1]

Im not any type of mastermind ...

What you think about that ? 

https://news.bitcoin.com/leaked-document-appears-to-show-nsa-infiltrated-cryptos-tor-vpn/

[kaszebe1]

Decentralization ?  Where ?  In bitcoin ? They are centralized as can be. Did you heard about 51% attack ? Are you able to "mine" serious amount of  bitcoins now without investing millions $ ?

Who owns most of those mining farms ? Do you know these people ? Or you just trust them because you hate banks ?

Also ... decentralization means lack of responsibility if something goes wrong ... If you wake up in the morning and your cryptowallet will be empty you can bite your ass ... you cant do nothing ...

[flyx]

Why this coin dumped so bad 
It was Scam coin?

[Haze The Hobo]

Decentralization ?  Where ?  In bitcoin ? They are centralized as can be. Did you heard about 51% attack ? Are you able to "mine" serious amount of  bitcoins now without investing millions $ ?

Who owns most of those mining farms ? Do you know these people ? Or you just trust them because you hate banks ?

Also ... decentralization means lack of responsibility if something goes wrong ... If you wake up in the morning and your cryptowallet will be empty you can bite your ass ... you cant do nothing ...

I doubt my wallet would be empty, but if it was then it would tell me I didn't protect my self enough. Hiding behind Z address is not enough of safety, you need to do a lot more than that to be truly anonymous. Still Z address is a lot more of a privacy than a mere public address.

Of course everything is based on centralization, because currently you need some way of payment to get mining equipment. Mostly you have to pay with real money, because you don't have any coins yet. Later on you can use your coins to pay, so this is where decentralization comes in play, at least almost. While paying with crypto the receiver most likely converts it to fiat and makes sure the payment for the product is comparable with "real market price".

Bitcoin is not asic resistant, so most of the mining happens in China and Russia, so you could say it is controlled by a groups of people. But if these groups stopped mining, then the power would be back in the hands of private persons, or the ones who have mining equipment. Most of the cryptos are centralized in this way yes, but it is because the profitability of mining. If mining wasn't so profitable with huge investments in equipment,  every minable coin would be more decentralized as mined coins would spread around the world more evenly.

I don't hate banks tbh. Money and banks work just fine to me. Cryptos are just a hobby and interesting thing to follow and read about.

[theinvestdude]

Why this coin dumped so bad 
It was Scam coin?

it was pump just because of the BTCP FORK now that the fork is over. there's no way for ZCL to recover.

Even on mining side, it was the least profitable Equihash coins to mine.

[Haze The Hobo]

Why this coin dumped so bad 
It was Scam coin?

it was pump just because of the BTCP FORK now that the fork is over. there's no way for ZCL to recover.

Even on mining side, it was the least profitable Equihash coins to mine.

ZCL was 2$ before BTCP announcement. ZCL still is way over that value. I think price will keep dropping as long as sellers compete on the sell orders.

[larsbalzak]

Why this coin dumped so bad 
It was Scam coin?

it was pump just because of the BTCP FORK now that the fork is over. there's no way for ZCL to recover.

Even on mining side, it was the least profitable Equihash coins to mine.

ZCL was 2$ before BTCP announcement. ZCL still is way over that value. I think price will keep dropping as long as sellers compete on the sell orders.

What price would be good to buy or this is coin gone like BCC?

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[maria.may]

my heart... 

[kaszebe1]

Decentralization ?  Where ?  In bitcoin ? They are centralized as can be. Did you heard about 51% attack ? Are you able to "mine" serious amount of  bitcoins now without investing millions $ ?

Who owns most of those mining farms ? Do you know these people ? Or you just trust them because you hate banks ?

Also ... decentralization means lack of responsibility if something goes wrong ... If you wake up in the morning and your cryptowallet will be empty you can bite your ass ... you cant do nothing ...

I doubt my wallet would be empty, but if it was then it would tell me I didn't protect my self enough. Hiding behind Z address is not enough of safety, you need to do a lot more than that to be truly anonymous. Still Z address is a lot more of a privacy than a mere public address.

Be honest with us and answer :  Do you know cryptography at level that allows you to be sure that the algorithms used do not have any backdoors ?

...and second question:  Do an average citizen really needs privacy cryptocurrencies in daily life ? ...and if you do something illegal that requires such coins secret service will get you one way or another...

[maria.may]

Please, who can, help, I do not know what to do, I did not know that it will be so, I do not know what to do , this is last my money to life:'(

[larsbalzak]

Please, who can, help, I do not know what to do, I did not know that it will be so, I do not know what to do , this is last my money to life:'(

Buy low sell high.

[hazenyc]

But seriousy, why don't you investors haven't just bought Bitcoin?
Waited for x100?
On every market big proffits also means big risk.

I was counting on bouncing at low

@maria.may but more at lower level. that way you can recover your losses if and when it bounces. the true level of this coin is 11k satoshi.

forking this coin and cloning other unique coin is the scam of reth creighton. Study his trend and you will see his modus. That guy should be jailed.

You might not like what he is doing but it is up to the market whether it wants to reward those actions or not. Eventually most in the market want to play those games.