[ANN][The Original Multipool - Scrypt/SHA256/Scrypt-N/X11] multipool.us

[letuslook]

What is the minimum payout limit for the alt coins?
1 or 0,0000001? (or something in between)?

~ Luc

Depends on coin. Doge and MOON are 1000, EAC is 50 and the rest are 1.

Is this also for BTC (and other hard to mine coins) where a value 0.01 is acceptable payout?

~ Luc

[ethereal73]

Dear (hardworking) multipool admins.

Great mining pool its sweet when its up, but when its down it feels like a giant dark hole.
E-mails getting unanswered, i noticed a takedown of the mining-pools after a e-mail, and a little change in the front message.
But what about all those hours mining? Are the coins counted? Are they lost in cyberspace?

Its hard to run a site like multipool, esspecially when the hashrate almost doubled in a week, i, and i think most miners can understand the difficulties.
But what did we do to you to let us behind in the dark, guessing what is wrong, and burning electricity (and it aint cheap in the netherlands) for nothing, atleast it looks that way for now.

what about a little feedback overhere, just to let us know what is going on.
Right now the site is up and the pools seems to be running again, but still no payments, not counting blocks, and frontend says no blocks found in about 25 hours, for some reason i do not believe the stats for now.

Come on guys, just a little information, that shouldnt be to difficult! It aint tocket science, and it just takes a minute or 2.

Kind regards.

A confused miner.

[ejadejong]

Looking at your recent posts, you and SpaceCadet seem to know what you are talking about. And I guess nobody here can trow the first stone!

I think most of us here are just worried about the lost hash's delivered (read: results) to the network and no doubt it's reason for some extra grey hairs trying to fix the pool. And yes, I agree with you, better to check-in with the pool after it's completely up and running and there was time for a summary to be written.

A 30 second one-line saying he's on it still would surely encourage confidence.

You guys have no idea what it is like to run a pool. It is stressful. Low pay for hours worked for most pool admins. Long long hours. Constant uptime is the goal. Constant hacking attempts, dos attacks, and fraud. Users asking questions every hour. The db for a pool is so heavily used it is staggering. 1000s of inserts/reads/updates a second. Any software change can cost you money if it messes up. Not just your money but other people's too that can be stolen in a blink of an eye. Now add in more complexity being a multi pool and it is even more work. Give the guy a break. Switch to another pool for a day or two and let him recover. He will explain everything. Rebuilding a server(s) takes hours and hours of non stop work. Little sleep. Stress. Then come back when he is done. I dont know of a single pool that has a perfect track record.

[fcmatt]

He did give an update.
He probably has been working on it non stop.
He might have a family he cannot ignore.
He probably has another job. Most pools dont pay enough to quit your day job.
He might not even be sure of the root cause yet. Bad disk? Bad server? Time spent rebuilding only to realize it was wasted due to realizing the real problem and starting over?
He has to get some sleep.

Any miner should realize pool downtime can ruin 1-3 days worth of mining/profits and plan accordingly.

And what kind of update do people want? A post every hour saying i am working on it. Hold tight! Wallet is safe. Server is borked. ETA unknown?

Only after running a pool for a year will you begin to realize just how thankless a job it is for most pool admins on their own.

[atadro]

i didn't imply earlier that i felt my work/coins will have been lost/wasted/stolen for the last 24 hours - hence my move from the pool.  these things have happened before and he has always got everything back in sync eventually.  it is the issue of timing with these types of coins so i'll move away until everything is back to normal then move back.  a day delay before trading these coins can make the difference between a nice profit or just heating up the house/office.

[BTCspoon]

Dear (hardworking) multipool admins.

Great mining pool its sweet when its up, but when its down it feels like a giant dark hole.
E-mails getting unanswered, i noticed a takedown of the mining-pools after a e-mail, and a little change in the front message.
But what about all those hours mining? Are the coins counted? Are they lost in cyberspace?

Sure thing is, if coins are mined, they go in someone wallet.

I myself understand how hard it's to maintain some servers and DB. But! if the DB or anything else is down, shutting down all services related to mining is mandatory...until the problem is solved.

[cheezhead]

He did give an update.
He probably has been working on it non stop.
He might have a family he cannot ignore.
He probably has another job. Most pools dont pay enough to quit your day job.
He might not even be sure of the root cause yet. Bad disk? Bad server? Time spent rebuilding only to realize it was wasted due to realizing the real problem and starting over?
He has to get some sleep.

Any miner should realize pool downtime can ruin 1-3 days worth of mining/profits and plan accordingly.

And what kind of update do people want? A post every hour saying i am working on it. Hold tight! Wallet is safe. Server is borked. ETA unknown?

Only after running a pool for a year will you begin to realize just how thankless a job it is for most pool admins on their own.

Your post makes my point..."He PROBABLY has been working"...."He MIGHT not even be sure"....
I don't know....you don't know.  The difference is you are guessing and I would simply like a 30 second update directly from the admin so I don't have to guess.

[s1gs3gv]

He did give an update.
He probably has been working on it non stop.
He might have a family he cannot ignore.
He probably has another job. Most pools dont pay enough to quit your day job.
He might not even be sure of the root cause yet. Bad disk? Bad server? Time spent rebuilding only to realize it was wasted due to realizing the real problem and starting over?
He has to get some sleep.

Any miner should realize pool downtime can ruin 1-3 days worth of mining/profits and plan accordingly.

And what kind of update do people want? A post every hour saying i am working on it. Hold tight! Wallet is safe. Server is borked. ETA unknown?

Only after running a pool for a year will you begin to realize just how thankless a job it is for most pool admins on their own.

You sound really condescending. Yes, we got one update via the front end approx. 12 hours after the outage began. This is the official multipool.us support forum. There has been no update or advisory here since this problem began over 24 hours ago.

[Sikorskiy]

Пpocтo вopьe, зa двoe cyтoк пpи мoщнocти 2500Kh нacчитaли вceгo 7400 Doge. Пpичeм xитpo тaк бeз пpeдyпpeждeний зaкpыли вeбмopдy нa oбнoвлeния.
Ктo-тo мoжeт пoдcчитaть, cкoлькo дeнeг oни yкpaли зa cyтки, oблaдaя 20% мoщнocти ceти?

[ethereal73]

He did give an update.
He probably has been working on it non stop.
He might have a family he cannot ignore.
He probably has another job. Most pools dont pay enough to quit your day job.
He might not even be sure of the root cause yet. Bad disk? Bad server? Time spent rebuilding only to realize it was wasted due to realizing the real problem and starting over?
He has to get some sleep.

Any miner should realize pool downtime can ruin 1-3 days worth of mining/profits and plan accordingly.

And what kind of update do people want? A post every hour saying i am working on it. Hold tight! Wallet is safe. Server is borked. ETA unknown?

Only after running a pool for a year will you begin to realize just how thankless a job it is for most pool admins on their own.

It aint necessary to defend anything, things just go wrong for some reason.
Look the other way around, many miners are slamming on the door to get back in again, they wouldnt do that if multipool was bad, wouldnt they?
The frustration is with the feedback, look at the site right now, no status update on the front, and here you have to find them in a bunch off messages.
And i still have no clue if i can trust the variables on the website.

Make the status update on the site show anything, maybe with a link to here for some extra information, and don't put status messages in a respond to users, they will get down under and missed very quickly.

A system admin is married twice, first with his systems, second with his wife/husband or whatever, that aint a excuse after all

[limonade baas]

Only start 'panicking' If he doesn't fix a problem within 48 hours. He fixes al the problems within 12 hours. He works all day n night for us. Show some respect you poor fuck berries.
I love you admin x

[jogin3]

Now is all pools with DOGE down

[s1gs3gv]

Most pools dont pay enough to quit your day job.

Just as an academic exercise, is there a reasonable way to estimate the approximate gross yearly revenue a business like multipool.us generates ?

[krakerjaak]

Most pools dont pay enough to quit your day job.

Just as an academic exercise, is there a reasonable way to estimate the approximate gross revenue a business like multipool.us generates annually ?

That's very hard especially since this revenue is tied to variations in the value of each cryptocurrency and their profitability at the moment the owners 'cash in'. I'd say it's near to impossible to estimate.

[krileayn]

just checked the frontend again, get the following message

Update: DB issues forced a rebuild. Please switch to Another pool for Now. Things Should be Back to normal by Morning. coins Are safe.

[s1gs3gv]

Most pools dont pay enough to quit your day job.

Just as an academic exercise, is there a reasonable way to estimate the approximate gross revenue a business like multipool.us generates annually ?

That's very hard especially since this revenue is tied to variations in the value of each cryptocurrency and their profitability at the moment the owners 'cash in'. I'd say it's near to impossible to estimate.

For sure, but if we make some reasonable working assumptions it should be possible to get a ball park estimate.
Skip the fiat conversion problems, just an estimate in coins and assuming something reasonable with respect to increase in difficulty.

[purelithium]

just checked the frontend again, get the following message

Update: DB issues forced a rebuild. Please switch to Another pool for Now. Things Should be Back to normal by Morning. coins Are safe.

Yeah that's an old message, it doesn't display that now.

[krileayn]

it did a few minutes ago, I tried refresh the page and now the front end is back up

[s1gs3gv]

Most pools dont pay enough to quit your day job.

Just as an academic exercise, is there a reasonable way to estimate the approximate gross revenue a business like multipool.us generates annually ?

That's very hard especially since this revenue is tied to variations in the value of each cryptocurrency and their profitability at the moment the owners 'cash in'. I'd say it's near to impossible to estimate.

Lets assume you are mining DOGE with 20GH at 1.5%. One way to get gross revenue is to just plug 300MH hash rate in the coinwarz mining profitability calculator. This yields a gross annual revenue of ~1906 BTC, or (at today's valuation) ~ 1.8M USD

[Tyzing]

I'm getting 504's now.  He's still obviously got issues