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[flound1129]

After 5 days of mining LTC I have received 1 LTC
Whereas before I was getting almost a coin a day
Can anybody enlighten me

Recent Payouts
Time   Block   Amount   BTC Value
Jan 29 11:39 PM   505211   1.02041   0.02701613
Jan 24 8:09 AM   502178   0.998111   0.02642575
Jan 24 7:49 AM   502173   0.961672   0.025461
Jan 22 9:54 PM   501590   0.998538   0.02643705
Jan 22 7:39 AM   501374   0.849799   0.02249908
Jan 20 6:39 AM   500420   0.941248   0.02492026
Jan 19 6:24 PM   500134   0.900147   0.02383208
Jan 18 11:34 PM   499685   0.881752   0.02334506

The pool didn't find a LTC block in 5 days.  If you mine LTC here you should expect high payout variance.

[krileayn]

After 5 days of mining LTC I have received 1 LTC
Whereas before I was getting almost a coin a day
Can anybody enlighten me

Recent Payouts
Time   Block   Amount   BTC Value
Jan 29 11:39 PM   505211   1.02041   0.02701613
Jan 24 8:09 AM   502178   0.998111   0.02642575
Jan 24 7:49 AM   502173   0.961672   0.025461
Jan 22 9:54 PM   501590   0.998538   0.02643705
Jan 22 7:39 AM   501374   0.849799   0.02249908
Jan 20 6:39 AM   500420   0.941248   0.02492026
Jan 19 6:24 PM   500134   0.900147   0.02383208
Jan 18 11:34 PM   499685   0.881752   0.02334506

The pool didn't find a LTC block in 5 days.  If you mine LTC here you should expect high payout variance.

Ok understood, thanks for getting back to me.
I'm learning as I go, I will use your pool for doge mining in future.

[martynw2000]

I'm not sure if I'm misreading the information, but I have an unusually large "unconfirmed" amount of dogecoins.

Currently it's showing as 3600 unconfirmed, and usually I have no more than about 1500 in that column. I have added up all the block rewards for the current blocks and that totals about 1419. I first noticed this about 12 hours ago. Is there a problem with the coin count?

[erok]

PPC did something weird! I still have well over a million shares on this epic 600 hour no blocks found marathon but the estimation shows 0... Why would it do this to me?

[garyang]

multipool switching wrong Profitability the past couple days.
EAC exchange rate has nerver been 0.00000177.
Moon exchange rate has nerver been 0.00000053 on  btc-e, cryptsy, vircurex, bter, coins-e, coinex, etc.
What is multipool problem?

[dnelsonfl]

My actual mining return is nowhere near the estimates either. I've been mining at a constant rate of 5Mh/s on the Doge pool for the past 3 days and averaging approximately 25,000 Doge/day. According to Coinwarz, 5Mh/s should bring in somewhere between 36,000 Doge and 47,000 Doge per day depending on the difficulty (which has changed a bit over the past few days).

I don't know if this has been pointed out yet, but Doge has a variable block reward. If you hover over the little '?' next to the reward amount for Doge on CoinWarz, it'll explain. Basically it ranges from 0 to 1,000,000 so CoinWarz estimates the reward for each block at 500,000. That could explain the difference you are seeing because the actual reward could have been more or less. If we mined blocks which were mostly less, your coins per day would of course also be less.

-David

[mdtspain]

Is the direct lottopool dead.....or is it only for EU server?

[martynw2000]

My actual mining return is nowhere near the estimates either. I've been mining at a constant rate of 5Mh/s on the Doge pool for the past 3 days and averaging approximately 25,000 Doge/day. According to Coinwarz, 5Mh/s should bring in somewhere between 36,000 Doge and 47,000 Doge per day depending on the difficulty (which has changed a bit over the past few days).

I don't know if this has been pointed out yet, but Doge has a variable block reward. If you hover over the little '?' next to the reward amount for Doge on CoinWarz, it'll explain. Basically it ranges from 0 to 1,000,000 so CoinWarz estimates the reward for each block at 500,000. That could explain the difference you are seeing because the actual reward could have been more or less. If we mined blocks which were mostly less, your coins per day would of course also be less.

-David

Yes, I'm aware of the variable block reward. However over a period of time the "luck" involved in finding low and high reward blocks should even out to an average. I believe Flound mentioned in a previous post that the average was currently at about 450,000 - so I don't think this is the cause of the problem. Right now my 24 hour "snapshot" shows 34,600 coins mined in the past 24 hours (and that's where it's been for the past 3-4 days). Whereas the estimated 24hr coins/day is should be 40350 (for 5096 Kh/s, which is more or less exactly what my rigs are churning out). So... it's getting better, but still ~15% out.

[mdtspain]

My actual mining return is nowhere near the estimates either. I've been mining at a constant rate of 5Mh/s on the Doge pool for the past 3 days and averaging approximately 25,000 Doge/day. According to Coinwarz, 5Mh/s should bring in somewhere between 36,000 Doge and 47,000 Doge per day depending on the difficulty (which has changed a bit over the past few days).

I don't know if this has been pointed out yet, but Doge has a variable block reward. If you hover over the little '?' next to the reward amount for Doge on CoinWarz, it'll explain. Basically it ranges from 0 to 1,000,000 so CoinWarz estimates the reward for each block at 500,000. That could explain the difference you are seeing because the actual reward could have been more or less. If we mined blocks which were mostly less, your coins per day would of course also be less.

-David

Yes, I'm aware of the variable block reward. However over a period of time the "luck" involved in finding low and high reward blocks should even out to an average. I believe Flound mentioned in a previous post that the average was currently at about 450,000 - so I don't think this is the cause of the problem. Right now my 24 hour "snapshot" shows 34,600 coins mined in the past 24 hours (and that's where it's been for the past 3-4 days). Whereas the estimated 24hr coins/day is should be 40350 (for 5096 Kh/s, which is more or less exactly what my rigs are churning out). So... it's getting better, but still ~15% out.

Yes, you should receive about ~30% more then you receive on the moment according to Coinwarz. It seems to be something with Dogecoin, because it's the same on other pools as well.....hence maybe Coinwarz is wrong ....who knows

[martynw2000]

My actual mining return is nowhere near the estimates either. I've been mining at a constant rate of 5Mh/s on the Doge pool for the past 3 days and averaging approximately 25,000 Doge/day. According to Coinwarz, 5Mh/s should bring in somewhere between 36,000 Doge and 47,000 Doge per day depending on the difficulty (which has changed a bit over the past few days).

I don't know if this has been pointed out yet, but Doge has a variable block reward. If you hover over the little '?' next to the reward amount for Doge on CoinWarz, it'll explain. Basically it ranges from 0 to 1,000,000 so CoinWarz estimates the reward for each block at 500,000. That could explain the difference you are seeing because the actual reward could have been more or less. If we mined blocks which were mostly less, your coins per day would of course also be less.

-David

Yes, I'm aware of the variable block reward. However over a period of time the "luck" involved in finding low and high reward blocks should even out to an average. I believe Flound mentioned in a previous post that the average was currently at about 450,000 - so I don't think this is the cause of the problem. Right now my 24 hour "snapshot" shows 34,600 coins mined in the past 24 hours (and that's where it's been for the past 3-4 days). Whereas the estimated 24hr coins/day is should be 40350 (for 5096 Kh/s, which is more or less exactly what my rigs are churning out). So... it's getting better, but still ~15% out.

Yes, you should receive about ~30% more then you receive on the moment according to Coinwarz. It seems to be something with Dogecoin, because it's the same on other pools as well.....hence maybe Coinwarz is wrong ....who knows

Reading backwards in this thread - I think Flound already said it might be something to do with a higher than normal rate of stale blocks. Perhaps this hasn't yet been resolved. (and I'm guessing that if this is a general problem with Dogecoin at the moment, this would explain why it's the same on other pools).

[22mpk]

My actual mining return is nowhere near the estimates either. I've been mining at a constant rate of 5Mh/s on the Doge pool for the past 3 days and averaging approximately 25,000 Doge/day. According to Coinwarz, 5Mh/s should bring in somewhere between 36,000 Doge and 47,000 Doge per day depending on the difficulty (which has changed a bit over the past few days).

I don't know if this has been pointed out yet, but Doge has a variable block reward. If you hover over the little '?' next to the reward amount for Doge on CoinWarz, it'll explain. Basically it ranges from 0 to 1,000,000 so CoinWarz estimates the reward for each block at 500,000. That could explain the difference you are seeing because the actual reward could have been more or less. If we mined blocks which were mostly less, your coins per day would of course also be less.

-David

Yes, I'm aware of the variable block reward. However over a period of time the "luck" involved in finding low and high reward blocks should even out to an average. I believe Flound mentioned in a previous post that the average was currently at about 450,000 - so I don't think this is the cause of the problem. Right now my 24 hour "snapshot" shows 34,600 coins mined in the past 24 hours (and that's where it's been for the past 3-4 days). Whereas the estimated 24hr coins/day is should be 40350 (for 5096 Kh/s, which is more or less exactly what my rigs are churning out). So... it's getting better, but still ~15% out.

While my Doge hash rate is lower then yours, I am seeing almost exactly the same difference.  Per 24h period I am about 14-15% below where I "should" be based on various calculators even using a conservative average hash rate.  I tried a few other options and as far as I can tell I did not see any better return.  My take is that is the way Doge is at the moment.  I now take that into consideration when looking at the profitability and deciding when to mine Doge with Multipool, or switch to LTC with a different pool.

[Nachi888]

Did anyone notice the top miner in Doge stats of multipool.us?
The user  name shows up as rwisozk.

Yesterday he was mining at 825,000 KH/s and today jumped to 1,250,000 KH/s (now it dropped to 979,901 KH/s)
That's crazy, he needs to invest about $1,000,000 in equipment to mine at those rates or it is a botnet or something.

his hash rates are equal to next top 10 users combined. I think it is just increasing the difficulty for all the rest of the miners.

At very least it should be investigated and made sure it's a legit operation.

[flound1129]

My actual mining return is nowhere near the estimates either. I've been mining at a constant rate of 5Mh/s on the Doge pool for the past 3 days and averaging approximately 25,000 Doge/day. According to Coinwarz, 5Mh/s should bring in somewhere between 36,000 Doge and 47,000 Doge per day depending on the difficulty (which has changed a bit over the past few days).

I don't know if this has been pointed out yet, but Doge has a variable block reward. If you hover over the little '?' next to the reward amount for Doge on CoinWarz, it'll explain. Basically it ranges from 0 to 1,000,000 so CoinWarz estimates the reward for each block at 500,000. That could explain the difference you are seeing because the actual reward could have been more or less. If we mined blocks which were mostly less, your coins per day would of course also be less.

-David

Yes, I'm aware of the variable block reward. However over a period of time the "luck" involved in finding low and high reward blocks should even out to an average. I believe Flound mentioned in a previous post that the average was currently at about 450,000 - so I don't think this is the cause of the problem. Right now my 24 hour "snapshot" shows 34,600 coins mined in the past 24 hours (and that's where it's been for the past 3-4 days). Whereas the estimated 24hr coins/day is should be 40350 (for 5096 Kh/s, which is more or less exactly what my rigs are churning out). So... it's getting better, but still ~15% out.

Yes, you should receive about ~30% more then you receive on the moment according to Coinwarz. It seems to be something with Dogecoin, because it's the same on other pools as well.....hence maybe Coinwarz is wrong ....who knows

Reading backwards in this thread - I think Flound already said it might be something to do with a higher than normal rate of stale blocks. Perhaps this hasn't yet been resolved. (and I'm guessing that if this is a general problem with Dogecoin at the moment, this would explain why it's the same on other pools).

I finished updating all of the DOGE wallets midday yesterday and the stales have taken a nosedive since then.  The wallets have over 20 connections each now (as opposed to under 10 previously).  This most likely has to do with the new DNS seed that was implemented in 1.5.

Out of 160 blocks submitted over the past 12 hours, only 3 were stale.

I think we will be seeing a return to close to coinwarz-calculated profitability going forward.

Average block reward over the past 24 hours is only ~453k, I believe this is because middlecoin switches block to block and only mines the higher reward blocks, but I could be wrong.

[flound1129]

I've also made some tweaks to the pools and gotten miner stales to around 3% on all pools.

[ShadesOfMarble]

Average block reward over the past 24 hours is only ~453k, I believe this is because middlecoin switches block to block and only mines the higher reward blocks, but I could be wrong.

I haven't read into DOGE that much, so maybe someone can just clarify this. The block reward is random, but is the block reward set at the time the block is found (so "truly random") or is it possible to predict the block reward? (Only then it middlecoin could do what you suggested.)

[flound1129]

Average block reward over the past 24 hours is only ~453k, I believe this is because middlecoin switches block to block and only mines the higher reward blocks, but I could be wrong.

I haven't read into DOGE that much, so maybe someone can just clarify this. The block reward is random, but is the block reward set at the time the block is found (so "truly random") or is it possible to predict the block reward? (Only then it middlecoin could do what you suggested.)

It's not necessary to predict..  It's available for anyone to see.  The reward for the current block is generated when the previous block was found.  It's available by getting the 'coinbasevalue' from the current block template

i.e.

Code:

dogecoind getblocktemplate | grep coinbasevalue

The value is in satoshis.

[detro]

I have been a security analyst for the past decade and crypto mining botnets are really all over the place these days, I find it highly likely with speeds like that with that much fluctuation this is very likely a botnet. Many CryptoCoin Mining malware and botnets have moved away from BTC and towards scrypt mining alt coins and more recently cpu PoW generated coins like XPM, ProtoShares and basically anything with a high value in BTC. Its a lot less noticeable to have 10 thousand or more machines using their CPU's for scrypt mining coins like DOGE or CPU mining other non scrypt coins compared to the GPU based BTC miners found in some of the older bots.(not to mention when spreading GPU mining botnets the infection campaigns need to target a specific user base, typically gamers with top of the line GFX cards). I really wish their was an easy way to fight these botnets but alas not many pool operators seem to care and those whom I have worked with to block the botnets usually felt the repercussions afterwards with DDoS attempts.

If anyone out there in the security field has any ideas or is working on any projects for detecting botnets compared to miners who are actually utilizing equipment they own I would love to hear about it.

Did anyone notice the top miner in Doge stats of multipool.us?
The user  name shows up as rwisozk.

Yesterday he was mining at 825,000 KH/s and today jumped to 1,250,000 KH/s (now it dropped to 979,901 KH/s)
That's crazy, he needs to invest about $1,000,000 in equipment to mine at those rates or it is a botnet or something.

his hash rates are equal to next top 10 users combined. I think it is just increasing the difficulty for all the rest of the miners.

At very least it should be investigated and made sure it's a legit operation.

much love
detro

p.s Also much love to multipool <3 , Let me know if you are interested in detecting botnets hitting your pool as I recently found the URL for your pool posted in a thread on a Russian Botnet Forum as a "safe places to mine".

[flound1129]

I have been a security analyst for the past decade and crypto mining botnets are really all over the place these days, I find it highly likely with speeds like that with that much fluctuation this is very likely a botnet. Many CryptoCoin Mining malware and botnets have moved away from BTC and towards scrypt mining alt coins and more recently cpu PoW generated coins like XPM, ProtoShares and basically anything with a high value in BTC. Its a lot less noticeable to have 10 thousand or more machines using their CPU's for scrypt mining coins like DOGE or CPU mining other non scrypt coins compared to the GPU based BTC miners found in some of the older bots.(not to mention when spreading GPU mining botnets the infection campaigns need to target a specific user base, typically gamers with top of the line GFX cards). I really wish their was an easy way to fight these botnets but alas not many pool operators seem to care and those whom I have worked with to block the botnets usually felt the repercussions afterwards with DDoS attempts.

If anyone out there in the security field has any ideas or is working on any projects for detecting botnets compared to miners who are actually utilizing equipment they own I would love to hear about it.

Did anyone notice the top miner in Doge stats of multipool.us?
The user  name shows up as rwisozk.

Yesterday he was mining at 825,000 KH/s and today jumped to 1,250,000 KH/s (now it dropped to 979,901 KH/s)
That's crazy, he needs to invest about $1,000,000 in equipment to mine at those rates or it is a botnet or something.

his hash rates are equal to next top 10 users combined. I think it is just increasing the difficulty for all the rest of the miners.

At very least it should be investigated and made sure it's a legit operation.

much love
detro

p.s Also much love to multipool <3 , Let me know if you are interested in detecting botnets hitting your pool as I recently found the URL for your pool posted in a thread on a Russian Botnet Forum as a "safe places to mine".

sure, email me please.

[Aurum]

A few days ago you send me a payment of 1.1 ZET but it has never arrived on my cryptsy account..
TXID: c3a4c52aebcb2031b7c10894ff6a172e6b981f0517677546feeafa350de1cd49
Wallet: ZVL2DJthC4nuE7Rsuvs82gnNaFW8fRnBHX

Do i still have to wait or are the ZET payment postponed?
~ Luc

If you you got a TXID number then the payment went out. Your problem is at Cryspy. You should submit a support ticket and include TXID, date and amount and they'll find it and credit your account. For awhile Vern had an audit request button but I haven't seen that lately.

[Aurum]

PPC did something weird! I still have well over a million shares on this epic 600 hour no blocks found marathon but the estimation shows 0... Why would it do this to me?

That's a good thing. Our shares will sit there until a block is found. The estimates probably got zeroed during the database rebuild and may not reappear until a block is found. Is this an estimate for PPC:

107 coin reward x 1,000,000 your shares/352,952,962 round shares = 0.30 PPC

https://www.multipool.us/stats.php?curr=ppc