[ANN] Ebitz - Unmoderated thread - Confirmed connection with the Opair scam

[Fidel007]

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Hi there,

Sorry for my bad english but i do my best :-)
I am a "newbie" here, and most of the time i only read on this forum but i have a question.


If i look on the Ebits website you can view the 2 whitepapers, it are the whitepapers of zcash and zerocash.
Should there be no whitepaper of Ebitz self?

Maybe i will invest some btc in the project but i don't know it for shore.

Thanx a lot!

Welcome!!

We use theirs papers, since our proposal is based on the zerocash protocol/Zcash code, which would be redundant to do otherwise. We are the first zcash based project to change the algo to PoS, so we are not going to make available our own code/papers until our project will be released. To do otherwise would be to the detriment of our investors. There is already a group of users who wanted to clone our code when it is not yet released (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1681965.msg16998446#msg16998446). We are not against that, but will be released after the launch of Ebitz.

Sorry, but you have no whitepaper of your own.

You have verbal agreements with companies which do not have access to your source code.

There are a lot of scam accusations against you.

Why don't you reveal who the well known personality is now? I mean, you said he already agreed, no?

You are asking a lot of trust from investors and you really don't have anything to back it up so far.

All we have is your word that your tech is the new best thing but absolutely no proof.

And you are not even using escrow.

That's a lot to ask from Investors.

Give us something tangible please and I am sure you will make these 800 BTC in one second.

This is a scam guys

I am asking him some questions and he just deletes everything.

I did not want to believe it and I invested 0.01 BTC but am sure now I lost that money.

This stinks.

[ocminer]

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Hi there,

Sorry for my bad english but i do my best :-)
I am a "newbie" here, and most of the time i only read on this forum but i have a question.


If i look on the Ebits website you can view the 2 whitepapers, it are the whitepapers of zcash and zerocash.
Should there be no whitepaper of Ebitz self?

Maybe i will invest some btc in the project but i don't know it for shore.

Thanx a lot!

Welcome!!

We use theirs papers, since our proposal is based on the zerocash protocol/Zcash code, which would be redundant to do otherwise. We are the first zcash based project to change the algo to PoS, so we are not going to make available our own code/papers until our project will be released. To do otherwise would be to the detriment of our investors. There is already a group of users who wanted to clone our code when it is not yet released (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1681965.msg16998446#msg16998446). We are not against that, but will be released after the launch of Ebitz.

Sorry, but you have no whitepaper of your own.

You have verbal agreements with companies which do not have access to your source code.

There are a lot of scam accusations against you.

Why don't you reveal who the well known personality is now? I mean, you said he already agreed, no?

You are asking a lot of trust from investors and you really don't have anything to back it up so far.

All we have is your word that your tech is the new best thing but absolutely no proof.

And you are not even using escrow.

That's a lot to ask from Investors.

Give us something tangible please and I am sure you will make these 800 BTC in one second.

This is a scam guys

I am asking him some questions and he just deletes everything.

I did not want to believe it and I invested 0.01 BTC but am sure now I lost that money.

This stinks.

Read the previous pages, proof is already there

[YIz]

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Hi there,

Sorry for my bad english but i do my best :-)
I am a "newbie" here, and most of the time i only read on this forum but i have a question.


If i look on the Ebits website you can view the 2 whitepapers, it are the whitepapers of zcash and zerocash.
Should there be no whitepaper of Ebitz self?

Maybe i will invest some btc in the project but i don't know it for shore.

Thanx a lot!

Welcome!!

We use theirs papers, since our proposal is based on the zerocash protocol/Zcash code, which would be redundant to do otherwise. We are the first zcash based project to change the algo to PoS, so we are not going to make available our own code/papers until our project will be released. To do otherwise would be to the detriment of our investors. There is already a group of users who wanted to clone our code when it is not yet released (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1681965.msg16998446#msg16998446). We are not against that, but will be released after the launch of Ebitz.

Sorry, but you have no whitepaper of your own.

You have verbal agreements with companies which do not have access to your source code.

There are a lot of scam accusations against you.

Why don't you reveal who the well known personality is now? I mean, you said he already agreed, no?

You are asking a lot of trust from investors and you really don't have anything to back it up so far.

All we have is your word that your tech is the new best thing but absolutely no proof.

And you are not even using escrow.

That's a lot to ask from Investors.

Give us something tangible please and I am sure you will make these 800 BTC in one second.

This is a scam guys

I am asking him some questions and he just deletes everything.

I did not want to believe it and I invested 0.01 BTC but am sure now I lost that money.

This stinks.

He deletes everything that might make the project look fishy. maybe he'll pay signature and the other campaigns again and disappear for another scam.

[Mefestofel_Mefis]

Why nobody wrote it negative trust? I think it will be the most effective decision to save people from its fraud.

Let's write all truth here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=333223

[DeadBirdzz]

Why nobody wrote it negative trust? I think it will be the most effective decision to save people from its fraud.

Let's write all truth here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=333223

Yup, I agree.

I gave ExtraByte some negative trust.

[smyslov]

This is not right,it could happen again a good graphic and a good roadmap plus agoo protion is all that it needs to pull this,they should have been warned earlier,why is this thread created after the ICO many investors will be very disappointed,big money is involve.

[YIz]

This is not right,it could happen again a good graphic and a good roadmap plus agoo protion is all that it needs to pull this,they should have been warned earlier,why is this thread created after the ICO many investors will be very disappointed,big money is involve.

He's gonna scam & repeat for the rest of his life. putting a stop to those scams has to start with better awareness among investors.

[DeadBirdzz]

As long as you will have idiots with more BTC than sense, Scammers will fucking prevail.

It's just amazing to see how many idiots are willing to send BTC without doing their due diligence.

You try to save them but they insist on getting scammed.

I don't get it.

[metropolia]

Maybe we should contact cryptoevil and let him make this scammer red, it is a good warning. Plus, we can make scam accusation in the relevant section.

[asriloni]

Maybe we should contact cryptoevil and let him make this scammer red, it is a good warning. Plus, we can make scam accusation in the relevant section.

Right decision, Crypto should have left the negative feedback for becoming scam awareness for all.

We need other prove for make any scam accusation.   

[ocminer]

Next scam the nameservers will be different, that's for sure

[YIz]

Next scam the nameservers will be different, that's for sure

He learned his lesson regarding nameservers. by the way, can someone check more suspicious scams on the forum for their nameservers? use http://who.is to check out if he's connected to more scams around here.

[enhu]

I was planing to invest to ebitz and compare them to zdash lately. I almost fall for this again. How did you guys traced whether he is wasserman of Opair?
Is the nameservers of ebitz also the nameservers of opair?

[YIz]

I was planing to invest to ebitz and compare them to zdash lately. I almost fall for this again. How did you guys traced whether he is wasserman of Opair?
Is the nameservers of ebitz also the nameservers of opair?

They use CloudFlare, which has static nameservers for each account. both domains are using the same nameservers meaning they are likely registered with the same account.

[DeadBirdzz]

I was planing to invest to ebitz and compare them to zdash lately. I almost fall for this again. How did you guys traced whether he is wasserman of Opair?
Is the nameservers of ebitz also the nameservers of opair?

They use CloudFlare, which has static nameservers for each account. both domains are using the same nameservers meaning they are likely registered with the same account.

the user YIz found this:

[extrabyte]

Dont lie!

Here you have the answer:

Given the 51 boy name server names and the 50 girl name server names, we have 2,550 unique combinations. This has been more than enough to ensure that the correct DNS records are pushed to our network, even when two people attempt to sign up the same domain.

So there are a more than 500 sites that share the nameserver . In 2012 (https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/12/cloudflare-accelerates-235000-websites.html) there were almost 1 million sites using CF.

Ocminer really? Yes, two different people can have the same nameservers combinations. There 2550 possible combinations for millions of sites. What you can not do is modify your nameservers.

[YIz]

Dont lie!

Here you have the answer:

Given the 51 boy name server names and the 50 girl name server names, we have 2,550 unique combinations. This has been more than enough to ensure that the correct DNS records are pushed to our network, even when two people attempt to sign up the same domain.

So there are a more than 500 sites that share the nameserver . In 2012 (https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/12/cloudflare-accelerates-235000-websites.html) there were almost 1 million sites using CF.

You said it was your last comment in this thread didn't you?

[DeadBirdzz]

Dont lie!

Here you have the answer:

Given the 51 boy name server names and the 50 girl name server names, we have 2,550 unique combinations. This has been more than enough to ensure that the correct DNS records are pushed to our network, even when two people attempt to sign up the same domain.

So there are a more than 500 sites that share the nameserver . In 2012 (https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/12/cloudflare-accelerates-235000-websites.html) there were almost 1 million sites using CF.

Lookie who we have here.

Mr Scammer IN PERSON.

Trying to come and save your scam?

TWAT....

[ocminer]

YIz,

1) & 2) About the script, its the same as you said. We clone it. We first talk with an user here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=357952 - you can contact him) to develop the script but since he price was a bit high we decide to clone an ICO site.

3) Of course we use a private domain register, you read our proposal? We could not do it any other way.

4) Really, you know how cloudflare works? There are like 30-50 sites (or more) that use the sames each nameservers. 

The website is still the same. you can't deny it. and I do know how CF works, you probably do not because you didn't even start a new account after you finished with Opair.

Yes, we clone it. You can check the source code (using google). YIz, sorry if you were part of Opair, but as we said, your saying have no sense, please contact with CF to know if there are the same account or not (as we said).

CloudFlare is not giving away information. I would have contacted them but it's pointless.

Here you have the answer:

Given the 51 boy name server names and the 50 girl name server names, we have 2,550 unique combinations. This has been more than enough to ensure that the correct DNS records are pushed to our network, even when two people attempt to sign up the same domain.

So there are a more than 500 sites that share the nameserver . In 2012 (https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/12/cloudflare-accelerates-235000-websites.html) there were almost 1 million sites using CF.

You don't understand or trying to cover your traces once more, you just confirmed scam yourself. nameservers in cf are unique per cf account :

http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/98142/how-to-change-the-cloudflares-dns-server-address

This means all domains you protect will have the same combo of nameservers out of those 2550 combinations..

Since you registered the old domain with the same account it has the same nameserver combination as the new one..  And your next page will ALSO have the same combo..  Unless you create a new cf account next time

Bumping this since it's likely the final prove needed

Interesting that still more threads pop up seeing this as scam..  Looks like those threads still have to low attention

I've explained in this post

[DeadBirdzz]

One would really think that a group of European Hackers with enough notoriety would be computer proficient enough not to make such silly mistakes.....

now if they are getting such basic things wrong.....ask yourself how the fuck they are going to modify Zcash's code.......