what is post quality should be?

[Pro Gamers]

Im wondering how to deliver a good quality post considering dt's standards. Im trying my best to the best of my abilitity to make quality post, first by making more than 75 characters in English and also as required by sig campaigns, second by trying to limit my weekly post so im not going to flood the forum with my posts so no one will get angry of me.

If there is something i did to make someone get offended i apologize on it, i dont mean anything and i respect every people here as most of the time im online im just reading then leaving without making any post, in this place i started to learn how to trade, how to invest with potential roi, im here to grow my knowledge and not to make income from sig campaigns although i joined some of them for excitement and to grow my coins too. But I have a real job its just the fact that i dont want to get negative trust which is i know is really not me, myself.
If i did not qualify the dt's standards of good quality poster im sorry to hear that.
I care about my acount.

I came here with nothing.
I dont have technical knowledge about anything.
English is not my first languange. If we speak in my own i can speak with you in somehow poetic and more informative.
Im just starting.

If to have those things up are the quality of good quality poster should be then that is a problem with me.

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[hilariousandco]

Read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0

Just put some effort and thought into your posts like you did this one. Making sure a post is 75 characters long doesn't magically make a post constructive though. In fact, just trying to hit the 75 character count usually has the opposite effect because people tend to stretch out their answers unnecessarily. Also, when all of your posts are around 75+ characters or one or two lines it's very easy to spot a pattern. There's no good reason why any users posts should follow a pattern or all be one or two sentences but this seems to be a habbit of Sig spammers because they somehow seem to think that two sentences is the magic number that suddenly makes a post constructive or not spam which isn't the case.

[Pro Gamers]

Read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0

Just put some effort and thought into your posts like you did this one. Making sure a post is 75 characters long doesn't magically make a post constructive though. In fact, just trying to hit the 75 character count usually has the opposite effect because people tend to stretch out their answers unnecessarily. Also, when all of your posts are around 75+ characters or one or two lines it's very easy to spot a pattern. There's no good reason why any users posts should follow a pattern or all be one or two sentences but this seems to be a habbit of Sig spammers because they somehow seem to think that two sentences is the magic number that suddenly makes a post constructive or not spam which isn't the case.

Exactly but that is their requirement.

[hilariousandco]

Just because they have a 75 minimum character requirement doesn't mean that's all you should do. If they had a two or three character minimum would all your posts just be yes or no answers because that's all you needed to say to get paid? Maybe a yes or no answer is all that is required sometimes but because you're forced to make it longer to earn you'll add a load of nonsense on to the end. If someone asks "Does 2+2 = 4?" a simple yes would suffice. Not "Yes. Two plus two equals four. I know this because I just used a calculator I own to check it and I can confirm this is correct". Everything else other than yes is unnecessary and is blatantly added just to pad their character count. The character count implemented by bitmixer was their attempt to not pay for short spam posts etc but it obviously doesn't work if you don't have someone actively moderating the post quality which they didn't. Otherwise you can and would get paid for just typing jhhhjk bvhgghb bbbbbb jvbhghhbvv ghbvghb ggvghh gvvvhhvv. Gggggvbb fffvvg vvhbbbbhhh tgyhjj if moderators weren't looking out for it and that was the problem with bitmixer. They were paying hundreds of people to spam whatever rubbish they could be bothered to write with no quality control just as long as it was more than 75 characters and staff were left to deal with the mess.

[Multipulty]

post quality should be something of clear understanding,depends on the angle with which you view it from.

[Pro Gamers]

post quality should be something of clear understanding,depends on the angle with which you view it from.

That is what i was trying to do, its just 'we' have different way of understanding. My form of speaking is different to anybody and the same to everyone elses.

I dont have the knowledge they might be looking of.

[deisik]

Read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0

Just put some effort and thought into your posts

Forced posts go a long way

If you are not interested in posting, putting more effort and thought into your posts will only make you tired and bored, even if you keep a required level of "constructiveness". I'd rather say you shouldn't actually put a lot of effort in your posts. If you are truly interested in the topic or some post stings you to the quick, it won't require much effort on your side to write a refreshing reply or suggest an interesting idea

[shorena]

post quality should be something of clear understanding,depends on the angle with which you view it from.

That is what i was trying to do, its just 'we' have different way of understanding. My form of speaking is different to anybody and the same to everyone elses.

I dont have the knowledge they might be looking of.

Alright since you want to improve and recently said I would write my opinion on a few of those here it comes. Take it or leave it.

Disclaimer:[1] Im not staff, not related and even though im part of the default trust network I will not leave negative rating on spammer (or not) accounts nor will I leave counter ratings. I dont think trust ratings are appropriate here. Those that will try to discuss this here will be ignored. Write your opinion/arguments about these topic in the existing topics.

I was reading your last 250 posts starting from here[2]. I wrote this while reading so bear with me when you think but it was different later. Your first few posts have large breaks between them and you mainly try to join a campaign. Two month and you did 9 posts.

There is a single post where you engage half heartedly in a discussion in offtopic[3]. Its about blogging from a phone, the OP has 3 questions you reply to one of them. Your answer is very generic in terms of "phones are limited vs. computers". If you have experience in the area I think you could have posted more esp. in regards to the other questions. The timing of your post before and after make it look like a post just to collect the activity points for the period (21.06.2016 14:40:00). Your next post is just after the next period started, by only a few hours. The question that comes to mind is: Is this your only account?


Here[4] you write that the thread should not have been bumped by the person you quote. Write a report instead, bumping old threads without bringing something new to it is against the rules ("necro posting"). Id say its borderline necro posting.


Here[5] you ask in a sales thread whether or not neteller can be reversed the same as paypal payments. This is offtopic to the thread. Either search for an existing answer or ask it in the proper section (trading discusison IMHO). It also spawns a small discussion about the topic which usually is a good thing, but here it just helps the OP of the thread to bump it 3 times within 30 minutes. On of them is OP asking you to remove your post.


More posts asking questions in a sales thread that have little purpose. You participate in the post your X threads in offtopic[6]. If you want to improve, avoid these kind of threads in any section. You can spot them by the countless replies without any discussion or back and forth between people. They have next to no substance to them and are more like a survey than a discussion thread.


Lets skip the used panty thread and get to another topic, like this[7]. Someone was asking for help with their web wallet, its not actually changed to spam, but lets ignore that here. They have some wallet words and ask whether they can restore them on a different web wallet. You reply that you dont know, but you dont think its possible. You are the first person to actually reply. This would have been a great opportunity for you to help someone. Do quick research and write a better answer. Maybe find out which format these other web wallets use and link to sources. Not only will you learn something, but also potentially someone else.

Would you want "Im not sure, maybe X" or "Yes/No, because <reason> as you can confirm yourself here <link to source>." when you have a question about your coins?


Next general thing, mega threads. Very long threads with lots of replies.

This is your reply with the quote post you reply to

For a steady income perhaps the best way is to open your own business. Depending on your skills, it may bring you good results.

This is better and this is also what i wanted too. I have an idea of what business i should open but the fund is the only problem im currently dealing with since im just recently started of having it and this way how im using bitcoin to add some funds to my planned business. Business is not only good for me if succeed but also good for my country and the community i belong.

This is another one 10+ pages earlier

If you are looking for a steady income better to look for a business you start and plan your earnings to invest to your own business for the first time you will lose but dont worry if you success promoting your site you will have a possive income.. daily or weekly..

The topic has already been discussed. You also state that you have your own business, yet in an earlier post you said you would quit your job if you could earn money with <forgot, not important>. Also, as mentioned above. If you have a business Im sure you can provide some insights.

In general try to stay away from these very long topics unless you actually read it entirely. If you do you are less likely to engage in a discussion that already took place in the same thread or you bring in points from the previous discussion to make this iteration of the topic more interesting.


Here[8] is an example for what Hilarious describes above. Lots of words for "I bought a guitar because I want to make videos on youtube with it". The rest is flavortext. You get a reply though, perfect moment to advertise your channel with a link to one of your videos playing said guitar.[9]

I wanted to thank you guys even though you fucked me over by freezing TPG coin but ever since I'm earning $20 daily from your dice even with it being rigged, so thanks a lot yobit love yall.

Woah i never heard someone plays on yobit dice until now and had a win. I used to play there twice but i stopped not because i lose but the first thing is its not good to play on there due too many aspects.

Why not expand on these aspects?

Are you saying you cant move your coins on your xapo wallet to another wallet you have?

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When I try to send coins it says unable to send.
-snip-

Does the amount you were trying to move is big?

Why does it matter?

I just want to tell you bitcoin user should be anonymous and there is no need to give your identity just to be able to use a bitcoin service like xapo. Be very careful next time.

Bitcoin is not anonymous and xapo can and does request their wallet users to profit id information. Again, someone has problem with their coins, do you think you helped them? Would you appreciate a reply like yours if all yours coins were frozen with a service?

Another account with green light? Should not be sold i know its your right to do whatever you wanted to do, but if your account goes to a evil acting like human, something bad will happen.

If you think its evil, dont bump their 3 day old thread to the top.


When you actually care you someone make better posts.

-> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1606042.0

I ll stop now (post #121 from latest) I dont think there will be significant changes to your posting style or new points I want to tell you. It boils down to what hilarious already wrote, put some thought and time in it. Yes it can be difficult sometimes when others around you are posting low quality as well, but its worth it. Before you hit post ask yourself:

#1 do I really want to write this publicly?
#2 does it help anyone but myself if I do?
#3 does my post bring something new to the discussion/topic at hand?

If you answer all the questions with no, just move on without posting. Sometimes its enough to have written the post, it must not be published.

[1] Its a bit sad that I have to write something like this at all, isnt it?
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429793.msg14666389#msg14666389
[3] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1527148.msg15365039#msg15365039
[4] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1439258.msg15508917#msg15508917
[5] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1540319.msg15511574#msg15511574
[6] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1536310.msg15525172#msg15525172
[7] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1594078.msg16010284#msg16010284
[8] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1562297.msg16060811#msg16060811
[9] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1562297.msg16061178#msg16061178

[Decoded]

Think of it this way - your posts will be accepted as long as they convey your opinion or information clearly. As long as you do this, you'll be fine. the reason that 75 character limit is there is to stop people fron saying "Yes i agree" and the like. In my opinion, it should be near 200 characters.

[john2231]

Upon checking your post i seen 1 or 2 lines you are posting and we can say as for my own opinion you are posting less effort..
That is why they are consider it as spam because you are just posting less effort or not so informative post..
So for me the quality post should be in topic and you give more effort than just reaching above 75 characters to be approve as quality poster..
I think you have still chance just to prove and contribute here in forum help others and increase the quality of your post and try to ask them  again. to remove negative trust because i saw your profile like you mention you receive negative trust..

[rizzlarolla]

"what is post quality should be?" Well, that title says it all really - Bad quality. But even the bleeding obvious has to be researched and debated.

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Thanks Shorena, Great post, great quality.
Hours of work reading shitposts to help show just one more worthless account.
I used to do that, global mods hated it - they were not interested anyway.
(nor DT, theymos obvs)

I don't read in the threads this "pro gamers" account posts in. No one reads those threads, they just quote and post.
Most accounts in those threads post the same or worse.
This "pro gamer" account, and all those others, are not interested in Bitcoin, only in earning free $'s.
(at least this account doesn't spam discussion, or beginner threads like many other unmoderated farmed accounts)

Just put some effort and thought into your posts...

There would still be no quality.
Unless this account miraculously turns into the next "Fatanut" - quality farmed account
then a false quality may be achieved, i guess.

It is censorship through BS. Drive away any real accounts.
Nice one theymos and your global mods. At least your consistent.
Every bitcoin forum you run, you ruin. (with Core support, of course)

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john2231 above giving advise here. Joke. Just another shitposter, cant speak the language, makes no sense, no quality.
Paid to fuck us all over. Nice one Bitmixer.io

[Sweeet]

I think a good quality post comes from someone who is interested in what they are talking about, usually the factors of a good post will come from interest in what they are typing. Those factors consist of various details of what it is they are talking about, explanation behind the details of what they are talking about, and good organization and grammar. When I mean if someone is interested in what they say they won't sound like what they are communicating isn't forced and useless information, in other words it is genuine. It also doesn't need to be long, I find a shorter statement that gets the point across is a more quality post then getting the point across with a longer statement.

[jacee]

Some keywords you might need:
Be Original, Be on point, make an informative post.
It doesn't necessarily needed to makea post long. Sometimes, makng it simple and on point is much better than having to read long sentences which only circles on one thought. Also refrain from repeating posts that was already posted by someone if unnecessary.

[shorena]

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Thanks Shorena, Great post, great quality.
Hours of work reading shitposts to help show just one more worthless account.
I used to do that, global mods hated it - they were not interested anyway.
(nor DT, theymos obvs)
-snip-

It was less than an hour (I hope at least, didnt check) and my hope is that others will read this and find themselves in it. No post here is ever only for the person that is addressed.

About these thread you also mentioned I used to participate in the count to 21 million and similar threads. I still see no problem with them as long as you post there rarely and not most of the time. I used to mod a small forum for a while and we a section literally called "spam" where threads like these would get moved to. I think its somewhat part of forum culture, but it should not annoy those that are looking for discussions. After all its why we have forums, isnt it?

[deisik]

-snip-
Thanks Shorena, Great post, great quality.
Hours of work reading shitposts to help show just one more worthless account.
I used to do that, global mods hated it - they were not interested anyway.
(nor DT, theymos obvs)
-snip-

It was less than an hour (I hope at least, didnt check) and my hope is that others will read this and find themselves in it. No post here is ever only for the person that is addressed

Sorry, but I didn't read your post (in full)

And that's not because it was intended for a certain member. In fact, when I see a lot of text (a few full paragraphs), I lose interest at once, even not reading the text. Indeed, I still force myself to read a few first sentences and unless I get intrigued (which a very rare event, to be honest), I stop reading further. And I almost never fail since whatever the poster wanted to say could have been said in just a few sentences (or even words)

[chixka000]

Base on the statement that you were saying above.( it is quite questionable because your rank does not define the current knowledge that you have in this community)

Anyways, back on the topic i guess you were only referring to the post qualified for the signature campaign. Although it doesn't mean that when you reach that 75 min length you already posted constructively( i would rather read that 60 char length with a depth understanding than that 500 char length of nonsense), but somehow people twist their brain and idea because the length is not enough and i guess that is the advantage of that.

[Pro Gamers]

post quality should be something of clear understanding,depends on the angle with which you view it from.

That is what i was trying to do, its just 'we' have different way of understanding. My form of speaking is different to anybody and the same to everyone elses.

I dont have the knowledge they might be looking of.

Alright since you want to improve and recently said I would write my opinion on a few of those here it comes. Take it or leave it.

Disclaimer:[1] Im not staff, not related and even though im part of the default trust network I will not leave negative rating on spammer (or not) accounts nor will I leave counter ratings. I dont think trust ratings are appropriate here. Those that will try to discuss this here will be ignored. Write your opinion/arguments about these topic in the existing topics.

I was reading your last 250 posts starting from here[2]. I wrote this while reading so bear with me when you think but it was different later. Your first few posts have large breaks between them and you mainly try to join a campaign. Two month and you did 9 posts.

There is a single post where you engage half heartedly in a discussion in offtopic[3]. Its about blogging from a phone, the OP has 3 questions you reply to one of them. Your answer is very generic in terms of "phones are limited vs. computers". If you have experience in the area I think you could have posted more esp. in regards to the other questions. The timing of your post before and after make it look like a post just to collect the activity points for the period (21.06.2016 14:40:00). Your next post is just after the next period started, by only a few hours. The question that comes to mind is: Is this your only account?


Here[4] you write that the thread should not have been bumped by the person you quote. Write a report instead, bumping old threads without bringing something new to it is against the rules ("necro posting"). Id say its borderline necro posting.


Here[5] you ask in a sales thread whether or not neteller can be reversed the same as paypal payments. This is offtopic to the thread. Either search for an existing answer or ask it in the proper section (trading discusison IMHO). It also spawns a small discussion about the topic which usually is a good thing, but here it just helps the OP of the thread to bump it 3 times within 30 minutes. On of them is OP asking you to remove your post.


More posts asking questions in a sales thread that have little purpose. You participate in the post your X threads in offtopic[6]. If you want to improve, avoid these kind of threads in any section. You can spot them by the countless replies without any discussion or back and forth between people. They have next to no substance to them and are more like a survey than a discussion thread.


Lets skip the used panty thread and get to another topic, like this[7]. Someone was asking for help with their web wallet, its not actually changed to spam, but lets ignore that here. They have some wallet words and ask whether they can restore them on a different web wallet. You reply that you dont know, but you dont think its possible. You are the first person to actually reply. This would have been a great opportunity for you to help someone. Do quick research and write a better answer. Maybe find out which format these other web wallets use and link to sources. Not only will you learn something, but also potentially someone else.

Would you want "Im not sure, maybe X" or "Yes/No, because <reason> as you can confirm yourself here <link to source>." when you have a question about your coins?


Next general thing, mega threads. Very long threads with lots of replies.

This is your reply with the quote post you reply to

For a steady income perhaps the best way is to open your own business. Depending on your skills, it may bring you good results.

This is better and this is also what i wanted too. I have an idea of what business i should open but the fund is the only problem im currently dealing with since im just recently started of having it and this way how im using bitcoin to add some funds to my planned business. Business is not only good for me if succeed but also good for my country and the community i belong.

This is another one 10+ pages earlier

If you are looking for a steady income better to look for a business you start and plan your earnings to invest to your own business for the first time you will lose but dont worry if you success promoting your site you will have a possive income.. daily or weekly..

The topic has already been discussed. You also state that you have your own business, yet in an earlier post you said you would quit your job if you could earn money with <forgot, not important>. Also, as mentioned above. If you have a business Im sure you can provide some insights.

In general try to stay away from these very long topics unless you actually read it entirely. If you do you are less likely to engage in a discussion that already took place in the same thread or you bring in points from the previous discussion to make this iteration of the topic more interesting.


Here[8] is an example for what Hilarious describes above. Lots of words for "I bought a guitar because I want to make videos on youtube with it". The rest is flavortext. You get a reply though, perfect moment to advertise your channel with a link to one of your videos playing said guitar.[9]

I wanted to thank you guys even though you fucked me over by freezing TPG coin but ever since I'm earning $20 daily from your dice even with it being rigged, so thanks a lot yobit love yall.

Woah i never heard someone plays on yobit dice until now and had a win. I used to play there twice but i stopped not because i lose but the first thing is its not good to play on there due too many aspects.

Why not expand on these aspects?

Are you saying you cant move your coins on your xapo wallet to another wallet you have?

-snip-
When I try to send coins it says unable to send.
-snip-

Does the amount you were trying to move is big?

Why does it matter?

I just want to tell you bitcoin user should be anonymous and there is no need to give your identity just to be able to use a bitcoin service like xapo. Be very careful next time.

Bitcoin is not anonymous and xapo can and does request their wallet users to profit id information. Again, someone has problem with their coins, do you think you helped them? Would you appreciate a reply like yours if all yours coins were frozen with a service?

Another account with green light? Should not be sold i know its your right to do whatever you wanted to do, but if your account goes to a evil acting like human, something bad will happen.

If you think its evil, dont bump their 3 day old thread to the top.


When you actually care you someone make better posts.

-> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1606042.0

I ll stop now (post #121 from latest) I dont think there will be significant changes to your posting style or new points I want to tell you. It boils down to what hilarious already wrote, put some thought and time in it. Yes it can be difficult sometimes when others around you are posting low quality as well, but its worth it. Before you hit post ask yourself:

#1 do I really want to write this publicly?
#2 does it help anyone but myself if I do?
#3 does my post bring something new to the discussion/topic at hand?

If you answer all the questions with no, just move on without posting. Sometimes its enough to have written the post, it must not be published.

[1] Its a bit sad that I have to write something like this at all, isnt it?
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429793.msg14666389#msg14666389
[3] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1527148.msg15365039#msg15365039
[4] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1439258.msg15508917#msg15508917
[5] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1540319.msg15511574#msg15511574
[6] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1536310.msg15525172#msg15525172
[7] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1594078.msg16010284#msg16010284
[8] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1562297.msg16060811#msg16060811
[9] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1562297.msg16061178#msg16061178

Thanks for the lectures.

I read your post in full and honestly you wake me up and helped me to find out where i gone wrong.

About the business i did not explained it well im sorry if you thought i have one, ive said i have a business plan but i dont have yet the funds to build it.

About the guitar i did not mention the link because i want to be anonymous here, and im starting with the guitar i just bought 2 months ago if im not mistaken so im not really a great guitar player at this moment and by this i have a bit fear to upload guitar covers on my youtube channel until i play them well, its early morning here i will try to make a video of me playing the guitar i just bought later and please tell me if you think its ok to upload on youtube, if you dont mind.

About the other replies, some were short or uncomplete because of my poor brain, i cant tell everything words by words especially in english which is not my first languange.

Now there's a thought in my mind but i cant explain or i cant say. This happens everytime when i read i can understand but i dont know how to tell.

Peace

[shorena]

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Now there's a thought in my mind but i cant explain or i cant say. This happens everytime when i read i can understand but i dont know how to tell.

Peace

Reread it after you wrote something, use a dictionary if you are not exactly sure about some words. English isnt my first language either and it probably isnt for most here. Keep reading from different sources. You probably already started to pick up words or new meanings of words you already know. The more you read the easier they come to your mind when you write something. Now abour your rating, write me a PM next month (or next year) and Ill take a look again. Dont just vanish for the time though.

[jamyr]

-snip-
Now there's a thought in my mind but i cant explain or i cant say. This happens everytime when i read i can understand but i dont know how to tell.

Peace

Reread it after you wrote something, use a dictionary if you are not exactly sure about some words. English isnt my first language either and it probably isnt for most here. Keep reading from different sources. You probably already started to pick up words or new meanings of words you already know. The more you read the easier they come to your mind when you write something. Now abour your rating, write me a PM next month (or next year) and Ill take a look again. Dont just vanish for the time though.

Hello.

Constructive posts
    -every sentence relates to one another which eventually will sum up to express your opinion/position/idea about the topic.
    -beating around the bush will tire not just you but the readers, so go straight to the point.
    -if you want to add color to your post(only if your the artistic,dramatic type), instead of paraphrasing one sentence over and over, insert quotes/images/reference to your claim/point.
-Let US all be aggressive,informative, and sensitive.

one of the guilty but good-looking member,

-jamyr

leaving you all a challenge,
"Let's Make BCTTalk Great Again" 

[marlboroza]

Upon checking your post i seen 1 or 2 lines you are posting and we can say as for my own opinion you are posting less effort..
That is why they are consider it as spam because you are just posting less effort or not so informative post..
So for me the quality post should be in topic and you give more effort than just reaching above 75 characters to be approve as quality poster..
I think you have still chance just to prove and contribute here in forum help others and increase the quality of your post and try to ask them  again. to remove negative trust because i saw your profile like you mention you receive negative trust..

 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1698934.msg17053754#msg17053754
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1288238.msg17053702#msg17053702
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1489512.msg17053463#msg17053463

 


Back to OP I just read some of your posts, you are not red marked because you don't write 75 liner, its because your posts doesn't make any sense at all. I won't suggest you to improve your post quality because its more than obvious that you can't do that.
So, ill suggest you to do this this:
1) Bitcointalk - write in your local board and read posts on other boards
2) Invest in yourself - learn english

edit* I didn't want to be mean, its just how i see things. You can improve your language in about month(english is not my mother language either), but what is most important don't write reply's just for post count. And when you write posts don't think about signature campaign because you will start to count words, than you will think how many lines did you wrote, and you will write some nonsense instead of what you had in mind in first place.