Still Love Democracy?

[sugarfly]

Word democracy have real meaning.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.

George Orwell has taught us how TPTB want to manipulate people.

Of all government forms democracy sure has the best propaganda.

They make you give away your power, and give you back "voting".
They want to make you think that you are still in power now that you can "vote".

But nothing could be further from the truth.

-sf-

[BADecker]

Word democracy have real meaning.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.

George Orwell has taught us how TPTB want to manipulate people.

Of all government forms democracy sure has the best propaganda.

They make you give away your power, and give you back "voting".
They want to make you think that you are still in power now that you can "vote".

But nothing could be further from the truth.

-sf-

In America, the people are above the Government democracy. Read my post at the bottom of this link to see how https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1710578.msg17152909#msg17152909.

[Gasturcas]

Democracy is good because it brightens the streets and highways. Up and down the tarmacadam, billboards of happy, smiley faces declare a zest for life wrapped in a slogan that commits said face to a duty of "BUILDING THE FUTURE", "SECURING THE FUTURE, MOVING FORWARD", or any other form of propulsion.  Another one is that we can smile back at said faces and reply, Do they take us for fools?

[Tyrantt]

Word democracy have real meaning.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.

George Orwell has taught us how TPTB want to manipulate people.

Of all government forms democracy sure has the best propaganda.

They make you give away your power, and give you back "voting".
They want to make you think that you are still in power now that you can "vote".

But nothing could be further from the truth.

-sf-

Heck, that is so true, In most countries the "high" jobs such as city mayor are still indirectly chosen by the elites, and not by the actual people living there. Is that what you call democracy? Us civilians have literally 0 input in that process (It all depends on where you live ofcourse)  (whom we want taking that Mayor seat), while i think we should have.

That's the true problem of democracy in todays modern world. When democracy was invented you didn't have nearly as much people as you do now, and back then it was easier to come up to the one single mutual idea, but now... now it's just the corruption at it's finest.

[Blackdeath]

Word democracy have real meaning.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.

George Orwell has taught us how TPTB want to manipulate people.

Of all government forms democracy sure has the best propaganda.

They make you give away your power, and give you back "voting".
They want to make you think that you are still in power now that you can "vote".

But nothing could be further from the truth.

-sf-

Heck, that is so true, In most countries the "high" jobs such as city mayor are still indirectly chosen by the elites, and not by the actual people living there. Is that what you call democracy? Us civilians have literally 0 input in that process (It all depends on where you live ofcourse)  (whom we want taking that Mayor seat), while i think we should have.

That's the true problem of democracy in todays modern world. When democracy was invented you didn't have nearly as much people as you do now, and back then it was easier to come up to the one single mutual idea, but now... now it's just the corruption at it's finest.

Yes, the more people in official in government, the more corruptions will occur. It's better for me a corrupt dictator but has an intact leaderdhip. Hence, country will move up.
Also, the lesser the official, the lesser the expenses which means mire budget in improving a country.

[Seeker#9]

Democracy means freedom. I will only fully believe in democracy if the real freedom is acheved like freedom from poverty, freedom from criminality, freedom from graft and corruption, freedom from war and other much needed freedoms.

[Sithara007]

Democracy means freedom. I will only fully believe in democracy if the real freedom is acheved like freedom from poverty, freedom from criminality, freedom from graft and corruption, freedom from war and other much needed freedoms.

Democracy is a failed ideology. It encourages ethnic polarization and uncontrolled population growth. More population means more votes, and more votes mean more power. In third world countries, people indulge in uncontrolled population explosion, so that they could capture power through democracy.

[just_Alice]

Democracy can mean many things to many people. Heck, even some dictatorial regimes prefer to call their system to be democratic while at the same time they are using the state power to suppress people and to spread lies just to create fear.

In my idea, democracy means that the government is coming from the people, for the people and by the people. The power emanates from the voters and that power should be used for the greater good of the people.

However, there are some people who prefer someone to lord over them as long as that ruler can provide them all the basic stuffs they need. They don't care if they don't have the freedom others are enjoying as long they have something to eat everyday.

As for me, I still love democracy and I hate it if someone would be curtailing my Bitcoin freedom lol.

I can see your point. I love democracy too. Despite all the flaws it has, you at least won't be put in jail for using Bitcoin in a democratic country. And I agree that some people sell their freedom for the food and seeming security. It is their choice to make of course but I think it's not worth it.

[Daniel91]

Word democracy have real meaning.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.

George Orwell has taught us how TPTB want to manipulate people.

Of all government forms democracy sure has the best propaganda.

They make you give away your power, and give you back "voting".
They want to make you think that you are still in power now that you can "vote".

But nothing could be further from the truth.

-sf-

Heck, that is so true, In most countries the "high" jobs such as city mayor are still indirectly chosen by the elites, and not by the actual people living there. Is that what you call democracy? Us civilians have literally 0 input in that process (It all depends on where you live ofcourse)  (whom we want taking that Mayor seat), while i think we should have.

That's the true problem of democracy in todays modern world. When democracy was invented you didn't have nearly as much people as you do now, and back then it was easier to come up to the one single mutual idea, but now... now it's just the corruption at it's finest.

Yes, the more people in official in government, the more corruptions will occur. It's better for me a corrupt dictator but has an intact leaderdhip. Hence, country will move up.
Also, the lesser the official, the lesser the expenses which means mire budget in improving a country.

Yes, you are right partially, that we have a lot corruption in democracy, a lot fights, injustice etc.
But.... can you really compare life in democracy with life of average person 500 years ago?
Or 2 000 years ago?
Even democracy is not perfect yet, quality of our life is much better than before.
If not democracy, than, what is alternative?
Please, show me?
Anarchy?

[Mersedes]

Democracy means freedom. I will only fully believe in democracy if the real freedom is acheved like freedom from poverty, freedom from criminality, freedom from graft and corruption, freedom from war and other much needed freedoms.

Democracy is a failed ideology. It encourages ethnic polarization and uncontrolled population growth. More population means more votes, and more votes mean more power. In third world countries, people indulge in uncontrolled population explosion, so that they could capture power through democracy.

Not all third countries are experiencing a population explosion. In RUSSIA, for example no such problem. However, there is also no democracy. I don't really like democracy, but people don't come up with anything better.

[petsae]

It is not perfect, but no one has invented a better system for now.

[BADecker]

It is not perfect, but no one has invented a better system for now.

Better system is republic. Complete freedom except if you intentionally injure someone. Enslavement and punishment only if you injure someone.

[the rise]

It is not perfect, but no one has invented a better system for now.

Better system is republic. Complete freedom except if you intentionally injure someone. Enslavement and punishment only if you injure someone.

I think democracy remains an integral part of the republic, democracy is a system of society and the government to control them with a range of policy and legal literature. I am grateful to live in a democracy, freedom of speech to be given the right to legal protection and are not strictly limited.

If we live in north korea, let alone use bitcoin, internet and social media are restricted full, we like living at a time in the past

[Sithara007]

Democracy means freedom. I will only fully believe in democracy if the real freedom is acheved like freedom from poverty, freedom from criminality, freedom from graft and corruption, freedom from war and other much needed freedoms.

Democracy is a failed ideology. It encourages ethnic polarization and uncontrolled population growth. More population means more votes, and more votes mean more power. In third world countries, people indulge in uncontrolled population explosion, so that they could capture power through democracy.

Not all third countries are experiencing a population explosion. In RUSSIA, for example no such problem. However, there is also no democracy. I don't really like democracy, but people don't come up with anything better.

In Russia, there is neither population growth, nor population decline. Compare that to the shit hole called Ukraine (does not deserve to be called a third world country, should be a fourth world nation). The Ukrainian population is declining by some 200,000 per year.

[ekaterina77]

Democracy means freedom. I will only fully believe in democracy if the real freedom is acheved like freedom from poverty, freedom from criminality, freedom from graft and corruption, freedom from war and other much needed freedoms.

Democracy is a failed ideology. It encourages ethnic polarization and uncontrolled population growth. More population means more votes, and more votes mean more power. In third world countries, people indulge in uncontrolled population explosion, so that they could capture power through democracy.

Not all third countries are experiencing a population explosion. In RUSSIA, for example no such problem. However, there is also no democracy. I don't really like democracy, but people don't come up with anything better.

In Russia, there is neither population growth, nor population decline. Compare that to the shit hole called Ukraine (does not deserve to be called a third world country, should be a fourth world nation). The Ukrainian population is declining by some 200,000 per year.

You have in Russia the population growth rate of 95.5% due to migration. If you use your expression "hole" Russia is consistent with this definition. The more that the illegal annexation of the Crimea has allowed to level statistics.

[tetrisbattle]

its good to be democratic people of the country can have free expression also have a choice to select their president

[Forester618]

its good to be democratic people of the country can have free expression also have a choice to select their president

Sorry to choose the President this is not enough. Democracy allows the people to recall the President if he cheated on the election. It seems to me that the absence of such a mechanism allows you to save money in the elections, but sometimes leads to more serious consequences in the form of revolution.

[Tyrantt]

its good to be democratic people of the country can have free expression also have a choice to select their president

No, it was good back then when there we a lot, a lot of smaller numbers of people when they could unite under one idea, now it's impossible or very hard so democracy isn't that good of an option no more.

[Xester]

Democracy means freedom. I will only fully believe in democracy if the real freedom is acheved like freedom from poverty, freedom from criminality, freedom from graft and corruption, freedom from war and other much needed freedoms.

Democracy is good if it is real democracy. There are many kinds of democracy and the most famous are the two democracy as a tool for corrupt people to bribe people to vote for them in the election so they can usurp funds and enjoy the money of the people. The second one is the real democracy wherein capable leaders are running in the election for the purpose of giving a true dedicated service for the people and not for personal gains. Other kind of democracy is not so famous but is just a creation of the superpower countries so they can have control over the resources of the country.

[Alexzap]

Democracy means freedom. I will only fully believe in democracy if the real freedom is acheved like freedom from poverty, freedom from criminality, freedom from graft and corruption, freedom from war and other much needed freedoms.

Democracy is good if it is real democracy. There are many kinds of democracy and the most famous are the two democracy as a tool for corrupt people to bribe people to vote for them in the election so they can usurp funds and enjoy the money of the people. The second one is the real democracy wherein capable leaders are running in the election for the purpose of giving a true dedicated service for the people and not for personal gains. Other kind of democracy is not so famous but is just a creation of the superpower countries so they can have control over the resources of the country.

You are describing is not democracy, but the behavior of people who are using democratic principles, want to come to power. In the first case you describe populists, and in the second case all politicians. Who of contemporary politicians does not use power to generate income? And this applies to any political system.