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July 01, 2017, 12:53:11 PM
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Democracy can reflect the whole country of a nation, a democratic country can its people be happy, so I yearn for a democratic country.
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July 01, 2017, 03:47:33 PM
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Democracy is a bad sistem. The vote of Beethoven or Schopenhauer can't have the same importance than the vote of a drunk person. People who understand about politics shoud decide what is the better for the nation if this don't happen media and secret societies will manipulate people.
PS: in the ancient Greek democracy slaves didn't vote.

So, what is the solution than?
How you will decide who should be slave and who should be master?
By definition, in democracy everybody have the same rights.
So, you don't talk about democracy here.
It's some kind of dictatorship.
Unless you suggest something better than democracy, some better political system, I don't think you will find a lot of supporters here.

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July 01, 2017, 07:12:52 PM
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Democracy is a bad sistem. The vote of Beethoven or Schopenhauer can't have the same importance than the vote of a drunk person. People who understand about politics shoud decide what is the better for the nation if this don't happen media and secret societies will manipulate people.
PS: in the ancient Greek democracy slaves didn't vote.

So, what is the solution than?
How you will decide who should be slave and who should be master?
By definition, in democracy everybody have the same rights.
So, you don't talk about democracy here.
It's some kind of dictatorship.
Unless you suggest something better than democracy, some better political system, I don't think you will find a lot of supporters here.

I think a country shoud have one strong leader and the method to decide who is this leader shoud be like the system to elect a pope in the catolic church

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July 01, 2017, 08:48:24 PM
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Democracy is a bad sistem. The vote of Beethoven or Schopenhauer can't have the same importance than the vote of a drunk person. People who understand about politics shoud decide what is the better for the nation if this don't happen media and secret societies will manipulate people.
PS: in the ancient Greek democracy slaves didn't vote.

So, what is the solution than?
How you will decide who should be slave and who should be master?
By definition, in democracy everybody have the same rights.
So, you don't talk about democracy here.
It's some kind of dictatorship.
Unless you suggest something better than democracy, some better political system, I don't think you will find a lot of supporters here.

I think a country shoud have one strong leader and the method to decide who is this leader shoud be like the system to elect a pope in the catolic church

So, you are talking about free elections and voting and we already have it in every democratic country in the world.
I also think that many countries have strong and good leaders in the world Smiley

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July 01, 2017, 09:11:13 PM
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A democratic country is cool
Would not refuse to live in such a
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July 01, 2017, 09:16:05 PM
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Democracy is no longer working as intended. Heck, it was even criticised in ancient Greece by philosophers like Socrates.
I will ask you a question - how exactly democracy works? It is proven that majority of votes are idiots or people who are easily bribed by populistic ideas.
Democracy = rule of the man who gives people candies because society won't be able to accept a doctor who will help them, but at the same time offers them a bitter pill.


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July 01, 2017, 09:47:00 PM
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I still love it, if it if well applied there is nothing to worry about. Not the case of our systems.
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July 02, 2017, 08:54:54 AM
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We all are looking for love. And entering into a relationship with a person, experiencing some strong feelings towards him, we think that we love. If these relationships often hurt us, we get the idea that love is torture, almost a disease.
Indeed, perhaps your relationship is sick. Only, most likely, the correct name is not "love", but "dependence."
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July 02, 2017, 09:14:29 AM
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Democracy is no longer working as intended. Heck, it was even criticised in ancient Greece by philosophers like Socrates.
I will ask you a question - how exactly democracy works? It is proven that majority of votes are idiots or people who are easily bribed by populistic ideas.
Democracy = rule of the man who gives people candies because society won't be able to accept a doctor who will help them, but at the same time offers them a bitter pill.
Nothing better than democracy the people have not invented. Indeed, in a society where the majority of people are corrupt idiots, but it's not only the fault of them. It is the fault of each of us. People get that way because we don't pay attention to them and actually renounce them. Of course they pay us the same.
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July 02, 2017, 09:51:27 AM
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Still loving it, I mean the Democracy.
It has proper checks and balances at its core, hence a country with good foundations and principles should be able to thrive in democratic political system. Well, there's Mr. Trump, who is breaking away from usual norms and precedence (Not Presidence) Smiley.  We will see where the Murica goes in coming days. Usually the irony is the passage of 'Emergency Laws' often passed to protect the citizens that lead to almost autocratic systems within democracy. Can think of Turkey these days, No offense Turkey Cheesy
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July 02, 2017, 10:09:13 AM
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A lot of people claim that Churchill said "Democracy is the best form of government, except for all the others".

It's mainly about what kind of democracy you prefer.  Some socialist systems have systems of economic democracy, such as voting for factory managers and having other powers in the workplace.

The problem is when people equate democracy with capitalism.
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July 02, 2017, 11:26:30 AM
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Democratization on the basis of true freedom in proposing rights and opinions, but we must be more accustomed to democratization.
Do not get too far in interpreting what demokerasi is.
There are now many countries that adopt a democratic system in which a president, governor, regent, mayor may even be directly elected by his people.
I think this is a very good system
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July 03, 2017, 01:18:27 AM
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Democracy is no longer working as intended. Heck, it was even criticised in ancient Greece by philosophers like Socrates.
I will ask you a question - how exactly democracy works? It is proven that majority of votes are idiots or people who are easily bribed by populistic ideas.
Democracy = rule of the man who gives people candies because society won't be able to accept a doctor who will help them, but at the same time offers them a bitter pill.
Here in my country, a lot of idiots voting politician that are celebrity on the past or have a good looking, having a good sex appeal.
So yes, democracy is not for idiots.
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July 28, 2017, 05:45:39 PM
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Democracy is no longer working as intended. Heck, it was even criticised in ancient Greece by philosophers like Socrates.
I will ask you a question - how exactly democracy works? It is proven that majority of votes are idiots or people who are easily bribed by populistic ideas.
Democracy = rule of the man who gives people candies because society won't be able to accept a doctor who will help them, but at the same time offers them a bitter pill.
Here in my country, a lot of idiots voting politician that are celebrity on the past or have a good looking, having a good sex appeal.
So yes, democracy is not for idiots.
Here in my country too. People have been voting or electing officials that are really not suitable to the position and capable of doing what the position demands. Some of our politicians are celebrities who haven't study anything related to politics or law. Sportsman who is greedy of a position and always add God on his arguments. I mean, yes, God must not be forgotten but some of his points are really pointless and useless that all you can do is to face palm. And those who are really suitable for the position were not elected because they are not famous or they do not have lots of money to give away. I love democracy because you can do what you want and express what you want but when it comes to electing public officials that will lead the country, we really has to be more strict with it.
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July 28, 2017, 08:38:41 PM
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Democracy is terrible idea in todays time, because one can get so much more power today then he could back then and a good number of politicians today are corrupt.
It's not system's fault, human always turn good things into harm-negative ones.
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Charlie Gard parents announce death of 'beautiful boy' - BBC News
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40752120
3 hours ago - Charlie Gard, the baby at the centre of a legal row over his treatment, has died, a family spokesman has confirmed. The 11-month-old was ...

Shame the doctors who suppose to of cared for this child never understood DEMOCRACY ..

The PARENTS should of had the RIGHT to CHOOSE if they wanted to TRY and give their child another
treatment ..

The doctors said he was going to die SO what difference did it make to TRY?..
Plus your a DOCTOR and doctors are suppose to try EVERYTHING to make you LIVE..

And yes they done the same to this CHILD and this is what happened ..

Warned he would die by age 10, he just graduated college - CNN.com
edition.cnn.com/2017/05/12/health/ryan-dant-college-graduation.../index.html
13 May 2017 - Warned he would die by age 10, he just graduated college .... Click through our gallery to learn more about Ryan's life. ..... Over time, they would see him change. ... 'You have to understand, your son has a disease that is so rare that .... Ryan had been told that as soon as he could take a full course load, .

Why doctors get it wrong about when you will die | Life and style | The ...
https://www.theguardian.com › Lifestyle › Health & wellbeing
2 Jun 2015 - His mother says: “I am fighting for my child's life. ... It's difficult to predict exactly when a patient is going to die, or, sometimes, if they are going to die at all. ... Megrahi died two years and nine months after his release. ... But for comatose patients who have been rendered hypothermic, everything changes.


At seven months pregnant, Sandra Notman (right) had been told her baby girl Rachel (left) was so sick she'd be stillborn, or die shortly after birth
Understandably, she didn't want the pregnancy to go to full term, so asked if she could be induced two months early. Her consultant agreed.
Sandra's husband Andrew was by her side, and a priest waited to carry out a bedside baptism — naming the child Rachel.
Sandra and Andrew had also booked a funeral, ordered a tiny coffin and chosen a pretty dress in which to bury their daughter.
Yet tiny Rachel, weighing little over 2lb, was unexpectedly born alive, and was rushed into special care.
Her survival — against the odds and the predictions of well-intentioned doctors — is a 'sober warning bell', as one expert put it, reminding medics to consider carefully their advice in such cases.
Sandra, a former secretary, became pregnant with Rachel in 1991. She was 31, and Andrew, a company treasurer, was 30.




See also YOU GOT TO WATCH SOME DOCTORS..

Body parts are in high demand for BIG BUCKS and believe me people will do anything for money..

I mean we even have SLAVES in the 21st century in the UK Shocked Shocked..

You doctors who said no to letting charlies parents TRY need hanging ..
SCUM OF THE EARTH..

You should of said this ..I don't think it will work but it's up to YOU what do you want to do YOU
are the PARENTS so you will have to make that DECISION ...

BUT NO ..You decided not the parents so now they will have to live with that sorrow till the day they die..THE WHAT IF the treatment would of worked...

You have been wrong many a time YES YOU HAVE Angry Angry..

I hope you fall over and break your NECK.. Wink..

YOU SHOULD OF LET THE PARENTS DECIDE..

BUT the worst was when you said TIME AS RUN OUT..

You CHEEKY FUCKERS..
Wouldn't of run out if you would of let him go in the FIRST PLACE..

TIME AS RUN OUT Angry Angry..Wasted 6 months TIME AS RUN OUT..

You cheeky FUCKERS..

I hope the doctors get spat at or knocked out Angry..

YES FUCK YOU TO SCUM BAGS ..

PARENTS DECIDE ..What was the difference you made him suffer 6 FUCKING MONTHS ..
He could of went when first heard of this treatment it made no difference YOU was letting him DIE anyways so what was the difference in TRYING ..

You bastards said he is suffering SO WHY MAKE HIM SUFFER FOR 6 MONTHS in court battles ..

You had no rights ..

So doctors are the LAW?..
I mean how many have been so WRONG?..

And the law is suppose to be right NOT sometimes RIGHT..

I wouldn't put my child in that hospital NO WAY..MONEY VAMPIRE DOCTORS ..
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TO THE LAW.. Angry Angry Do you remember this case?..

28 Nov 2016 - Police officer and Gulf War veteran was left in a coma after a crash in 2015. ... Court will be asked this week to turn off life support for Wirral dad Paul Briggs ... Family handout of Gulf War veteran Paul Briggs, 43, with his wife Lindsey ... for Lindsey and Paul's family and Lindsey just wants what is best for him.

Now the doctors was saying he could get better but his wife was saying he will be a cabbage and he always said he would rather die..

Now she went to COURT and won the RIGHT to let him DIE even though the doctors wanted him to live..

NOW about the law WHO IS RIGHT..

You see the law doing 2 DIFFERENT THINGS but the same CHOICE..

Like banning smoking BUT letting 1 person do it even though the LAW is no smoking for everyone..

One rule for one and one rule for another..

SO YOU THE LAW FUCKED UP..

You let the policeman wife DECIDE over a doctor BUT not charlies parents ..

SO WHAT IS THE LAW..

When ever it suits you Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry....
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July 28, 2017, 10:32:06 PM
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Democracy is no longer working as intended. Heck, it was even criticised in ancient Greece by philosophers like Socrates.
I will ask you a question - how exactly democracy works? It is proven that majority of votes are idiots or people who are easily bribed by populistic ideas.
Democracy = rule of the man who gives people candies because society won't be able to accept a doctor who will help them, but at the same time offers them a bitter pill.
Here in my country, a lot of idiots voting politician that are celebrity on the past or have a good looking, having a good sex appeal.
So yes, democracy is not for idiots.
Here in my country too. People have been voting or electing officials that are really not suitable to the position and capable of doing what the position demands. Some of our politicians are celebrities who haven't study anything related to politics or law. Sportsman who is greedy of a position and always add God on his arguments. I mean, yes, God must not be forgotten but some of his points are really pointless and useless that all you can do is to face palm. And those who are really suitable for the position were not elected because they are not famous or they do not have lots of money to give away. I love democracy because you can do what you want and express what you want but when it comes to electing public officials that will lead the country, we really has to be more strict with it.
Thats why i always say that democracy is always overrated, we are always given two people to choose from and truthfully none of them is really good enough to do anything positive for the country. Even with free speech, there is always something that you cant really say. Is it half free speech or free speech.

 
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July 29, 2017, 07:13:11 PM
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To some extent democracy would have been the best only if the politicians will do the right thing at the right time. Politicians has now become multimillionaire just for a position of four years without any question on how they got the money. They makes laws that favor they them self and forgot about the people that vote them into power. What a wicked generation.
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July 29, 2017, 08:15:06 PM
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Who is to blame if you vote for them? Responsibility in a democracy applies to everyone. Not just for the thieves in power but also those who helps them to get there. Do you agree?
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