CjMapope
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January 05, 2017, 11:04:46 PM |
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Also, what about shit like gore pages? people LOVE tht shit. What will you do when governments want those pages taken down? Say no? GOOD LUCK? or porn, both inappropriate and not. there was ZERO mention of age requirements for this platform, will you let minors partake? Scary! IF you do have age requirements, HOW will you enforce them?
SO many questions, not sure why i even bothered to read tht "whitepaper"...
you cant throw around buzzwords like "decentralized" without having solutions to the problems censorship protects :/ or you will be forced to censor and put your foot in your mouth. there ARE solutions, but again, ZERO mention in your paper
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AleScamHole
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Don't you looooooove how offensive my name sounds?
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January 06, 2017, 07:56:14 AM |
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i thinks wut happened is that since 2 women made this up, they ran it by some men and they all smiled and nodded, "what a great idea!" cause thats what guys do for women. (like in this thread i see) its a big problem women face professionally actually i noticz they use the words DHT alot in the paper , so like torrent style, but ya no mention of how to handle the BAD side of DHT
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TheKB
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January 06, 2017, 08:21:33 AM |
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too many questions remain unanswered.. i dont like it at the moment. looking forward to satisfactory explanations and preferably an updated whitepaper!
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tbolt256 (OP)
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January 06, 2017, 10:09:44 AM |
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Disappointing imo.
Not only is it damn near EXACTLY LBRY and Alexandria technically, but you have ZERO mention about how you will handle piracy EXAMPLE: Bob starts a social media page on Respectonomy for sharing free softwear keys. EVERYONE hosts his site cause everyone loves free shit. HOW will you handle the DMCA requests? Will you censor Bob's page (and everyones profit share with it) ? you have to, or get sued. And once you do, that's centralized.
Your "whitepaper" has ZERO info on how you will handle the biggest problem you will face, good job? You say "quality posts" but there's no info on how USERS will determine what is "quality" and hence the problem i mentioned above)
Sorry, but im unimpressed, no money from me, i still think this is going nowhere.
Systems like LBRY, Decent, JoyStream use bittorrent protocols to distribute content to be hosted by the users & lets others charge for it. Although this is better than storing data on the blockchain, yet still run into storage issues over time. But an even bigger problem in such systems is determining the price that must be paid for a content. So, tell me if i am wrong, the content will be stored on everyone's device, like the blocks are, and validated like an address by the blockchain in order to proof it is actually the right post ?
Respectonomy modifies the bittorrent protocol to only host content with users that endorse it; when users ‘share’ a content they become a seed in a sub-network of only those respectonomy users that have shared that content. Thus, only the supporters of a content bear the burden for hosting it. While downloading from someone, a user can see descriptions to other files that the uploaders might be hosting and thus this sub-network also acts as recommendation engine by measuring the frequency & nearness of other data, and because content downloading is paid for, the seeds act as curators. The ‘shared’ content then becomes a locally hosted curated list which the users earn from by hosting. To fairly determine the price for such exchange respectonomy deploys its own blockchain where the flow of the token ‘respect’ dynamically determines the value of content exchange. This mechanism of tracking data in an isolated network helps fight censorship by replicating the data globally & data being available until anyone in the world is willing to host it. When users like a content, they pay ‘respect’ to the oldest record of that content in the blockchain. Since pirated content will have a different record it becomes a problem. If we aim to solve it using some algorithm, even a bit of information changed in a file changes its records but it could either mean piracy or creation of new content – for example changing a single character in a code could mean new code. The original content creator can assign special benefits to community for this effort & since everything happens through transactions, for example - it is an immutable record of people who bought your song. The transactions sending money to the address associated with that content’s fingerprint then can have special use-cases such as access to a concert. Money sent to pirated copies will not have this benefit whereas the downloader would also have spent equivalent amount for it. This mechanism drives the price based on rarity of content.
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tbolt256 (OP)
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January 06, 2017, 10:12:32 AM |
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I just hada look at the white paper, nice work, but i would have appreciated more technical details about the project. By the way, you talk about difficulty retarget, based on the last 2016 blocks, but will it be retargeted at each block ? (even if the answer looks clear to me, it may be good to specify it)
The difficulty will be calculated as the moving average of the previous 2016 blocks. So to answer your question, the difficulty will be retargetted every block.
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tbolt256 (OP)
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January 06, 2017, 10:15:07 AM |
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too many questions remain unanswered.. i dont like it at the moment. looking forward to satisfactory explanations and preferably an updated whitepaper!
The current white paper is only an initial draft. We will be updating the whitepaper shortly.
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btvGainer
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January 06, 2017, 10:26:26 AM |
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Kindly reserve the Hindi translation spot for me for a better professional translation:)
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CjMapope
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January 06, 2017, 10:37:20 AM |
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Disappointing imo.
Not only is it damn near EXACTLY LBRY and Alexandria technically, but you have ZERO mention about how you will handle piracy EXAMPLE: Bob starts a social media page on Respectonomy for sharing free softwear keys. EVERYONE hosts his site cause everyone loves free shit. HOW will you handle the DMCA requests? Will you censor Bob's page (and everyones profit share with it) ? you have to, or get sued. And once you do, that's centralized.
Your "whitepaper" has ZERO info on how you will handle the biggest problem you will face, good job? You say "quality posts" but there's no info on how USERS will determine what is "quality" and hence the problem i mentioned above)
Sorry, but im unimpressed, no money from me, i still think this is going nowhere.
Systems like LBRY, Decent, JoyStream use bittorrent protocols to distribute content to be hosted by the users & lets others charge for it. Although this is better than storing data on the blockchain, yet still run into storage issues over time. But an even bigger problem in such systems is determining the price that must be paid for a content. So, tell me if i am wrong, the content will be stored on everyone's device, like the blocks are, and validated like an address by the blockchain in order to proof it is actually the right post ?
Respectonomy modifies the bittorrent protocol to only host content with users that endorse it; when users ‘share’ a content they become a seed in a sub-network of only those respectonomy users that have shared that content. Thus, only the supporters of a content bear the burden for hosting it. While downloading from someone, a user can see descriptions to other files that the uploaders might be hosting and thus this sub-network also acts as recommendation engine by measuring the frequency & nearness of other data, and because content downloading is paid for, the seeds act as curators. The ‘shared’ content then becomes a locally hosted curated list which the users earn from by hosting. To fairly determine the price for such exchange respectonomy deploys its own blockchain where the flow of the token ‘respect’ dynamically determines the value of content exchange. This mechanism of tracking data in an isolated network helps fight censorship by replicating the data globally & data being available until anyone in the world is willing to host it. When users like a content, they pay ‘respect’ to the oldest record of that content in the blockchain. Since pirated content will have a different record it becomes a problem. If we aim to solve it using some algorithm, even a bit of information changed in a file changes its records but it could either mean piracy or creation of new content – for example changing a single character in a code could mean new code. The original content creator can assign special benefits to community for this effort & since everything happens through transactions, for example - it is an immutable record of people who bought your song. The transactions sending money to the address associated with that content’s fingerprint then can have special use-cases such as access to a concert. Money sent to pirated copies will not have this benefit whereas the downloader would also have spent equivalent amount for it. This mechanism drives the price based on rarity of content. ok well i give up, its clear you have no interest in actually discussing anything on a technical level, and have no thoughts into this. o well, another day another poorly executed idea, i will eat a hat if this is ANYTHING in even 6 months lmao
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~Got this girl in my bed, a roof over my head, i mint a couple coins a week, and thats how i make bread~ ~On the 12th day of Hatzvah, OGminer said to me: "compute root of the merkle hash tree!"~ Prohashing -- Simply the best Multipool!
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tbolt256 (OP)
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January 06, 2017, 01:23:24 PM |
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I just hada look at the white paper, nice work, but i would have appreciated more technical details about the project. By the way, you talk about difficulty retarget, based on the last 2016 blocks, but will it be retargeted at each block ? (even if the answer looks clear to me, it may be good to specify it) In order to answer to everyone, could you please precise where the posts will be stored, on a website ? on the blockchain ? is it like steemit ? can we have some examples, may screens or something else ? how will the censorship be managed ? how will the tracking be managed ? do the posts will be manager by the blockchain ?
Your post will be stored in your personal device from where you are using platform. Censorship is resisted by making the content replicated in a distributed network. However, peer info while downloading content is not anonymous in a torrent network. Despite that the system fights censorship by replicating the information globally. Yes, posts are sort of managed by the blockchain since it is used for every interaction in the system besides tracking etc. Also we are gonna release Whitepaper today. So, tell me if i am wrong, the content will be stored on everyone's device, like the blocks are, and validated like an address by the blockchain in order to proof it is actually the right post ? I'm glad you liked the whitepaper. This is only the first draft. We will be updating it with more details. Yes, the content will be stored on everyone's device. Just that instead of like an address, they'd be stored like hashes are stored on the bitcoin's blockchain.
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firebird2490
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January 06, 2017, 01:33:00 PM |
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Kindly reserve the Hindi translation spot for me for a better professional translation:)
Translation reservations, bounties and ICO will be announced in a new post on this forum. We will contact those who have approached us for translation reservations before the final announcement is done.
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ub27
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January 06, 2017, 04:59:19 PM |
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Ive sent a PM to OP, can I get an email adress where I can contact with someone from the Respectonomy team?
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btvGainer
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January 06, 2017, 09:01:03 PM |
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Kindly reserve the Hindi translation spot for me for a better professional translation:)
Translation reservations, bounties and ICO will be announced in a new post on this forum. We will contact those who have approached us for translation reservations before the final announcement is done. Thanks looking forward to your call
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wnj4
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January 06, 2017, 11:07:57 PM |
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I just hada look at the white paper, nice work, but i would have appreciated more technical details about the project. By the way, you talk about difficulty retarget, based on the last 2016 blocks, but will it be retargeted at each block ? (even if the answer looks clear to me, it may be good to specify it) In order to answer to everyone, could you please precise where the posts will be stored, on a website ? on the blockchain ? is it like steemit ? can we have some examples, may screens or something else ? how will the censorship be managed ? how will the tracking be managed ? do the posts will be manager by the blockchain ?
Your post will be stored in your personal device from where you are using platform. Censorship is resisted by making the content replicated in a distributed network. However, peer info while downloading content is not anonymous in a torrent network. Despite that the system fights censorship by replicating the information globally. Yes, posts are sort of managed by the blockchain since it is used for every interaction in the system besides tracking etc. Also we are gonna release Whitepaper today. So, tell me if i am wrong, the content will be stored on everyone's device, like the blocks are, and validated like an address by the blockchain in order to proof it is actually the right post ? I don't get it! new coin for our post, how this will be a coin?
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tbolt256 (OP)
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January 07, 2017, 04:55:42 AM |
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I just hada look at the white paper, nice work, but i would have appreciated more technical details about the project. By the way, you talk about difficulty retarget, based on the last 2016 blocks, but will it be retargeted at each block ? (even if the answer looks clear to me, it may be good to specify it) In order to answer to everyone, could you please precise where the posts will be stored, on a website ? on the blockchain ? is it like steemit ? can we have some examples, may screens or something else ? how will the censorship be managed ? how will the tracking be managed ? do the posts will be manager by the blockchain ?
Your post will be stored in your personal device from where you are using platform. Censorship is resisted by making the content replicated in a distributed network. However, peer info while downloading content is not anonymous in a torrent network. Despite that the system fights censorship by replicating the information globally. Yes, posts are sort of managed by the blockchain since it is used for every interaction in the system besides tracking etc. Also we are gonna release Whitepaper today. So, tell me if i am wrong, the content will be stored on everyone's device, like the blocks are, and validated like an address by the blockchain in order to proof it is actually the right post ? I don't get it! new coin for our post, how this will be a coin? From what I can understand of your question........... New coins will be generated by the users device just in enough amount so as to make the experience seamless for humans but introduces a latency for bots, which they may bypass by paying you for reading your data
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sulec70
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January 07, 2017, 05:58:12 AM |
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Too many questions here, because this is a new technology Which is still in my mind, the system may be adopted from steemit (maybe)
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ridewithme
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Follow me to the Profitland.
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January 07, 2017, 06:00:31 AM |
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So it is an ico?
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I invested in ETH and made money, WAVES, made money, JEWELS made money, NXT made money, BTC made a lot of money! Follow me and profit.
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ridewithme
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January 07, 2017, 06:15:43 AM |
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Gone for a few weeks but I see things have not changed around here. Still everyone looking for a handout. lol. Stop with the bounty questions and lets talk business.
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I invested in ETH and made money, WAVES, made money, JEWELS made money, NXT made money, BTC made a lot of money! Follow me and profit.
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tbolt256 (OP)
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January 07, 2017, 07:36:01 AM |
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the system may be adopted from steemit (maybe) Both Steemit and Respectonomy are systems that aim to decentralize various aspects of publishing. If we look at the data storage aspect, firstly, steem stores text data on the blockchain which is not optimal or scalable as fee analysis reveals, and secondly, steem distributes the content discovery by creating DHTs as per the bitorrent protocol, whereas respectonomy offloads the problem of controversial content to the discovery problem. Thus controversial content remains hosted on its isolated sub-network and someone has to discover it and willingly download it by paying for it. This is also necessary because what is controversial for a majority might be necessary for a minority. To pay for all this, a user's device running the website mines just enough ‘respect’ under the hood such that its expenditure introduces a built-in latency that does not affect humans but charges the bots to tap the firehose. Too many questions here, because this is a new technology
Yes it is a new technology. more questions are welcome
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firebird2490
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January 07, 2017, 07:40:30 AM |
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So it is an ico?
Yes. If you pay some bounty on BTC, things can get interesting! ICO and Bounties will be announced in another post. The link will be updated here.
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szafa
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January 07, 2017, 08:09:53 AM |
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When pool and Windows wallet?
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