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December 30, 2016, 07:35:46 PM
Last edit: December 18, 2021, 06:33:02 AM by Mooncoin_Foundation |
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This ANN thread was started by Mooncoin_Foundation on Dec, 30, 2016,
following the consensus of the community.
Mooncoin_Foundation is not a company, and doesn't admin Mooncoin.
This thread is no longer in use.
The active Mooncoin ANN thread is
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351789
Mooncoin was launched in Dec, 2013
and completely abandoned by original devs in 2014.
Mooncoin holders saved the project
and made it a successful decentralised project.
Unique vision, friendly spirit and our own inventions (SmartLikes, MoonWord)
were added to the project.
Miners and investors kept blockchain up and running during years,
without any central authority.
The project never used a model of paid voting
(unlike when people, including those who never knew about the project before,
receive money to agree with given proposals),
and there never were instructions on how to develop,
not supported/initiated by holders of majority of coins
with the additional condition that no one minded in public
against initiatives and developments. It worked in 2016-2017.
There were tech issues, however, even Bitcoin had issues.
The project with no-center model, without self promoting of devs
(only tech devs who compiled binaries at Github had been ever asked
to provide contact details to ensure that there is no backdoor in exe files),
also with interesting vision and ideas and great atmosphere
was highly estimated by crypto market.
As a result, in 2017 Mooncoin was in top 100 at Coinmarketcap.
The project which became known (Forbes wrote about Mooncoin in 2017),
with high value and with no center attracted attention of people
who tried to become its center.
The project was open for everyone and new people were welcome
however, many supporters didn't agree with their vision.
Since 2018, after those people came, progress had stopped,
politics and toxic spirit had been started,
there were attempts to falsely discredit historical supporters in public
and to seize full control on the project.
As a result, the market cap of Mooncoin declined dramatically
destroying hopes of many followers.
In 2018-2020, initiatives of Mooncoin holders were blocked,
were artificially and falsely discredited.
Initiatives were to fix discovered security issues,
to add interesting ideas after several years of imposed stagnation,
with engineering by an independent dev and crypto expert,
Peter Bushnell, Feathercoin founder and one of Bitcoin devs.
Unknowing people from DOGE and RDD communities supported
people who were saying they're official.
We didn't have all information at the moment,
to prove that public accusations were false
and there was nothing dishonest behind launch of 0.18
(engineered by Peter Bushnell at github.com/mooncoincommunity),
also to avoid split of chain and community,
which occured after their 0.17 version was released shortly after 0.18,
to avoid all mess and toxic spirit we had to accept 0.17.
That turned out that 0.18 had several issues, however, they could be fixed.
Unfortunately, many people still don't realize that decentralised only Mooncoin,
with no-center model, similar to Bitcoin, has real value,
that over long term no one is interested in a company-like coin.
Mooncoin is not ICO and not a DeFi token.
There is no self promoting and deciding things center,
no matter how you call this center: "miners", "community", "team", '"group".
Why not "community"? Because it could be limited part of real community,
or even irrelevant people, engaged to look like the community.
Why not "miners"? If regular hashrate is not large, even one person can set up
many nodes temporarily, and generate hashrate
to make it look like miners decided.
The centralised model is not Bitcoin like, and there is no true value in this case.
We invite crypto community, crypto devs and all people
who care about decentralisation
to come and defend our project, which is one of the oldest classic crypto coins.
About the 62B MOON case, Vassilis, a dev from Greece,
who unexpectedly received 62B in 2018 to his address,
very likely from defuncted exchange admins,
after long silence posted a public message in 2021, also was communicating to
other people (J.B and actarus) through e-mail and he stated the following:
1. He was in full control of private keys of his address,
which was his personal address for donations,
other investors never had any control on his address or on him
(unlike what some people were actively saying in public during years).
2. Shortly after receiving coins in 2018 he reported unjust enrichment
to Greek and European authorities.
3. Though coins were sent to his address for donations, he considered them
as seized property not belonging to him,
(rightful owners, including historical supporters, mostly agreed
to burn their coins for the sake of project and community).
4. Legal papers confirming the origin of coins are needed
to proceed with these coins in a legitimate way.
In 2016 the Court Receiver said in his official report
that only about 8B were sent to him,
and asked exchange admins and all relevant people to lock remaining funds,
the community tried to lock coins in 2017,
however, later it turned out that there is no known proof yet
which could be seen as a 100% proof about the origin of coins
for legal purposes, according to requirements of law.
Unluckily Vassilis didn't communicate with the community during years,
however, he saved coins, never dumped even one of them,
even taking into account that their price was much higher in 2018.
We can see that the problem is quite complex and waits for legitimate solutions.
The true history of Mooncoin development, the truth about events of 2020:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1733963.msg54113024#msg54113024
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1733963.msg53974582#msg53974582
This is an outright lie. Nuff said.
Also the addresses & code got sent to Mebagger, he reviewed it before the code was published & didnt have any comments on the blocked tx'es/addresses.
Here is a screenshot, provided later by ChekaZ, which indicates the truth:
Here is another screenshot, showing how a 51% attack was organized
(see the hashrate spike to 1.09 THs on March, 1 at mebagger's pool)
to impose their 0.17 version.
When released by mebagger2, after 0.18, the 0.17 made an instant chain split.
The 0.17 wallet fixed security issues, but removed all protection (though not ideal one)
against move of stolen funds, the 0.17 didn't implement any planned hard fork block,
unlike the 0.18, which tried (with the planned hard fork block height)
to set security improvements in stone and to prevent attempts of rewriting blockchain history:
What people say:
Peter Bushnell, Feathercoin Founder, an engineer of 0.18 wallet
The only concern is if someone tries to spend the 62B stolen coins, moving these funds on 0.18 is now blocked on a consensus level, 0.13 only protected the mempool which is why they moved and 0.17 has no protection against this at all. A new 0.17 version should also block spending of those stolen funds on a consensus level, I can send create the pull request on their 0.17 repo to add this feature.
I've also recommended to to Chekaz that historical validation be restored in the 0.18 release once validation has been restored, then 0.18 will be a fully validating release as it should be, this could not be done from the outset or consensus would break at some point as demonstrated by 0.17.
agswinner, the largest Mooncoin investor
I will limit myself to saying that given the lack of team.eco activity to which we entrusted the github pasw (mooncoicore)we hired independent devs Chechaz founder of Trezarcoin and Coinkit.de and Peter Bushnell founder of Feathercoin and bitcoin core dev for the development of the client v0.18 in order to guarantee greater security with also the implementation of Smart Likes and MoonWord. In the name of consensus the old group has been covered with false accusations, with pressure from other communities as well, such as dogecoin Reddcoin and Vertcoin. Therefore we have agreed together to avoid splitting the blockchain to continue with V 0.17
Luigi (actarus), scientist and Mooncoin investor
MF and agswinner, but also many others here, have dedicated time and personal funds to the Mooncoin project, and have naturally formed a group. What then this group is called MF or anything else does not matter.
This group has always been active and present here on the bitcoin talk forum, despite positive and also very negative periods, but always focused on the Mooncoin project. After various vicissitudes, which saw several actors alternate here on the scene, the so-called group Mooncoin Core or Mooncoin Reborn arrived - suddenly from nowhere. He snubbed this historic forum and formed a telegram group...
Well, apart from the disgust, which is why I decided to leave the telegram group for a more transparent and less rude environment, I would like to tell you that this is not the right spirit to collaborate
midmir, historical Mooncoin supporter
Mooncoin_Foundation said it more than clear above: "However, if people just discuss the future of MOON and say about the importance of decentralisation, it's not pure fighting,
it's an important topic and the future of Mooncoin (and its price) will depend on how well the community understands the idea. "
We do not need any corporate entity behind and any VC money.
There are other types of projects which go this way.
You can consider those as private cryptocurrencies, not much different from the fiat.
Mooncoin simply is not one of them.
Same as crypto world don't have only POW consensus algo but also POS, dPOW etc.
You do not need to form vertical (pyramidal) structures
in order to help Mooncoin further grow and development.
We don't need titles, we need good consensus and flat, decentralized structure.
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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December 30, 2016, 07:37:13 PM
Last edit: March 27, 2020, 06:14:45 PM by Mooncoin_Foundation |
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DarkStar1O9
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December 30, 2016, 07:48:42 PM |
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lol All these altcoin markets are becoming like trading pokemon cards.  |
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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December 30, 2016, 08:37:49 PM
Last edit: February 10, 2017, 08:10:05 AM by Mooncoin_Foundation |
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olkah
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December 30, 2016, 08:39:13 PM |
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Pool???
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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December 30, 2016, 08:45:40 PM |
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Pool???
In the signature there are 5 or 6 pools, ok, you're right no one is reading signatures, will move them to the OP. |
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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December 30, 2016, 08:56:11 PM
Last edit: September 17, 2020, 10:18:10 AM by Mooncoin_Foundation |
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Currently Mooncoin trading volume is not big, it's far from it was in the past. |
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olkah
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December 30, 2016, 09:21:57 PM |
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Little exchanges for moon Maлo биpж для moon |
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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December 30, 2016, 09:27:22 PM |
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Little exchanges for moon Maлo биpж для moon You're right, hope to change it now with a new dev, one thing to understand MOON is not an ICO coin, nor a premined coin, all have equal opportunities on the one hand, on the other hand no funds to pay for exchange listing, only funds that common users raise, however MOON is not an 'exchange-made' coin at all, exchanges come and go, MOON stays... |
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olkah
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December 30, 2016, 09:29:30 PM |
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Little exchanges for moon Maлo биpж для moon You're right, hope to change it now with a new dev, one thing to understand MOON is not an ICO coin, nor a premined coin, all have equal opportunities on the one hand, on the other hand no funds to pay for exchange listing, only funds that common users raise, however MOON is not an 'exchange-made' coin at all, exchanges come and go, MOON stays... but if there is no coin exchange automatically a corpse !!!!! |
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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December 30, 2016, 09:36:10 PM |
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Little exchanges for moon Maлo биpж для moon You're right, hope to change it now with a new dev, one thing to understand MOON is not an ICO coin, nor a premined coin, all have equal opportunities on the one hand, on the other hand no funds to pay for exchange listing, only funds that common users raise, however MOON is not an 'exchange-made' coin at all, exchanges come and go, MOON stays... but if there is no coin exchange automatically a corpse !!!!! Now everything is not like several years ago, time of ICOs and exchange-made coins, however many coins were listed on Poloniex, then delisted and now are dead, Mooncoin survived many exchanges, CoinEx, Mintpal, Cryptsy to name a few, and ask yourself one interesting question, how many ICO coins that are listed now at big exchanges will survive delisting? Edit: Mooncoin still is traded on the Bleutrade exchange https://bleutrade.com, which is a good exchange, it has more than 30,000 customers and is working since 2014, very fast and usable platform. The Mooncoin market is one of the most active markets on Bleutrade. They even have a MOON/BTC market, though it's recommended to buy MOON on their MOON/DOGE market - the Mooncoin price is lower there. |
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olkah
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December 30, 2016, 09:38:59 PM |
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Little exchanges for moon Maлo биpж для moon You're right, hope to change it now with a new dev, one thing to understand MOON is not an ICO coin, nor a premined coin, all have equal opportunities on the one hand, on the other hand no funds to pay for exchange listing, only funds that common users raise, however MOON is not an 'exchange-made' coin at all, exchanges come and go, MOON stays... but if there is no coin exchange automatically a corpse !!!!! Now everything is not like several years ago, time of ICOs and exchange-made coins, however many coins were listed on Poloniex, then delisted and now are dead, Mooncoin survived many exchanges, CoinEx, Mintpal, Cryptsy to name a few, and ask yourself one interesting question, how many ICO coins that are listed now at big exchanges will survive delisting? Edit: Mooncoin still is traded on the Bleutrade exchange http://bleutrade.com, which is a good exchange, it has more than 30,000 customers and is working since 2014, very fast and usable platform. The Mooncoin market is one of the most active markets on Bleutrade. answer is not a lot but for the coin need exchange and active marketing |
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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December 30, 2016, 09:49:57 PM |
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You're right, the problem though we are not a company and have no salesmen. Even this thread was started after 2 years of waiting... some people still believe we shouldn't do anything, it's true to a degree, the neutral control is the best one for the decentralized things. Since 2014 when an original dev disappeared, people have been asking for a new Mooncoin ANN thread with up to date links. e.g.: ANN needs updating
Can you create a new Mooncointhread, because few pages later, no one knows, what u did here, because you never can change the OP here.
I would like to add to the request here for active download links to the wallets, either on the og thread or on a new one please?
I agree a new thread should be made
@Mooncoin_Foundation Does anyone have access to modify the Original Post and Forum Title? with MoonLite progressing it would be good to have an updated OP and title? Or consider opening another thread?
I would love to see a new ann with uptodate links and new graphics
very interesting to have new thread with updated information and new wallet , so I agree  Up to date wallet would be awesome sir. then make the new ann and start from there. this is looking great for mooncoin!
An outdated original post with no one having access to change it isnt good. Mooncoin_foundation is so active, can you start a new thread instead?
Yes...PLEASE A NEW ANN...this would be nice...since weeks, is mooncoin the strongest dogecoin pair on bleutrade...
Good afternoon from Greece. I agree too with a new announcement thread.
I suggest to think about a new MOON topic, a new OP whit the right info and right exchanges.
Probably a new topic whit a well made OP will boost MOON 15 to 20%
A new thread for MoonCoin should be made so that it can stay updated with new/current information. This thread is beyond outdated and will turn away potential investors.
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polemarhos888
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To The Moon !
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December 30, 2016, 10:07:07 PM |
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Good afternoon. I am happy for the new Moncoin thread. I believe that a new era begins...!  |
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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December 30, 2016, 10:21:09 PM
Last edit: September 17, 2020, 09:54:47 AM by Mooncoin_Foundation |
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Edit Mooncoin is listed at 5 exchanges at the moment. Mooncoin was listed at Cryptsy (#1 Altcoin exchange in 2014-2015) and was traded actively, on big volume. Then Cryptsy was closed and MOON had lost the most active market. Mooncoin is a long term project, backed by common people, with equal opportunities, with no shills, and not for making a quick buck. One author (his name is Mr. Chris P.Thompson) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389403.msg15708434#msg15708434) is in process of writing a book about Mooncoin: Work has begun on the first full history book on a individual cryptocurrency. Titled "Mooncoin - Philosophy of Decentralization". the book will cover the history of the coin up until a fixed future date. A preliminary cover design has already been created:
 Everyone, newbies or not are welcome to Mooncoin. Even if you came to crypto in 2016 and have no understanding of Altcoin old school ideas, read and learn. Fairness is the key. Not profit only, not exchanges only matter. Mooncoin is a fair coin with ongoing equal opportunities. Edit: forgive us our loud words, it was the 3rd anniversary of MOON today, it doesn't happen too often (with an altcoin especially). Yes, the total supply of MOON is about 385 billion, enough coins for everyone, it was built with future in mind, no prices (denominated in MOON) will look like 0.0000000000000000001. MOON's inflation is quite low if you compare it to many other coins. |
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December 30, 2016, 10:42:03 PM |
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MOON was one of the first coins I obtained when I first got started in cryptocurrencies, one of the few that are still around today.
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December 30, 2016, 11:36:21 PM |
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Well this is a blast from the past, I had loads of this coin but think I have lost the wallet on an old machine along with a few other coins I assumed were dead. Let's just hope this really doesn't go to the moon or I will be sad.
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