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Author Topic: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 51285 funded addresses. 2,162,799 txs. 5 block explorers  (Read 284777 times)
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May 19, 2018, 01:41:39 PM
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good news ,novaexchange is back
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May 19, 2018, 01:49:51 PM
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https://discordapp.com/channels/316886566809239559/316886566809239559 Also goes to a dead place.

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May 19, 2018, 02:19:01 PM
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#PCN is 10 Sat now !!! MoonCoin  Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh
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May 19, 2018, 02:26:08 PM
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hopefully mooncoin move up at the end of May !
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May 20, 2018, 09:07:06 AM
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Why should it do so?
Any news?

The project seems to be dead...
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May 20, 2018, 09:09:02 AM
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Just looked again at the OP...
  (im listed! Smiley lol) scary.


but now im wondering the other 3 links... are they private??

and if so..why?

     (and if they are private, that kinda makes my  point more ...pointy!) lol



I agree the Op might need a revamp and some of the links could be deleted, since it does not make a good impression to have mostly empty links links on there


No problem. Just report (in this ANN thread or via PM) what is needed to be updated, invalid links etc.

Will have a deeper look at it the next days. The first thing would be the Discord links, since the other ones at least need to be updated

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May 20, 2018, 09:17:36 AM
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Dead place? 201 users online at time of writing....
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May 20, 2018, 09:20:37 AM
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hopefully mooncoin move up at the end of May !

Mooncoin will have no value in 20 years. the price will not rise since 2014. this coin is a waste of time. sell and forget. absolute death coin
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May 20, 2018, 09:56:21 AM
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hopefully mooncoin move up at the end of May !

Mooncoin will have no value in 20 years. the price will not rise since 2014. this coin is a waste of time. sell and forget. absolute death coin
Do you have nothing better to do   I do not understand why you come on to mooncoin thread where there is enthusiastic mooncoin supporters and have a lot of negative things to say   why don't you quietly sell your coins and move on you are entiteled to your opinion  but your opinion may not be correct so maybe you should keep your opinions to your self    and it would be nice if you showed the mooncoin community a bit of respect

{the price will not rise since 2014}?Huh?
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May 20, 2018, 10:10:40 AM
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hopefully mooncoin move up at the end of May !

Mooncoin will have no value in 20 years. the price will not rise since 2014. this coin is a waste of time. sell and forget. absolute death coin
Do you have nothing better to do   I do not understand why you come on to mooncoin thread where there is enthusiastic mooncoin supporters and have a lot of negative things to say   why don't you quietly sell your coins and move on you are entiteled to your opinion  but your opinion may not be correct so maybe you should keep your opinions to your self    and it would be nice if you showed the mooncoin community a bit of respect

{the price will not rise since 2014}?Huh?

Good afternoon. Daniel, I agree 100% ! If someone is not interested about Moon, then why  he/she send posts here...? However, it's possible he/she to try buy in low prices...

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May 20, 2018, 11:36:06 AM
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when i click on that link, it goes to a txt room that isnt setup.

   that means its a dead link.


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May 20, 2018, 02:06:49 PM
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when i click on that link, it goes to a txt room that isnt setup.

   that means its a dead link.



When I click on the link Is goes to the discord channel of Mooncoin. 227 users online at this moment. So this means the link is not dead.
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May 20, 2018, 02:18:42 PM
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hm.
      who is the admin?

  that means they didnt setup correctly.


   Odd they havent said anything about it.

to me, all i see is a dead server.
 no channels, nor rooms, nor ppl..



227 online riight now?  only one in this forum?

   post in there, that the admin should get on the forums.

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May 20, 2018, 02:22:40 PM
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Try from a computer that doesnt have discord installed.

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May 20, 2018, 02:31:07 PM
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or from the same system but disable discord... that sorta thing.
  if thats possible ofc.

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May 21, 2018, 10:56:34 AM
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A research regarding events of Dec, 2017-Jan, 2018 (about move of locked coins) is completed.
Following our Mooncoin approach of transparency, results will be transparently published in this ANN thread shortly.

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May 21, 2018, 12:36:52 PM
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RESEARCH ON MOVE OF LOCKED COINS IN DEC, 2017-JAN,2018


1. Known addresses with coins that were blocked (their outputs) in the protection:
2cLG2RzF6rDCtNws6We8o8avXs1grqARHU
2FgWY2MjPn9AG3bhuRLH5mhCKyc17eVHRY

When coins were blocked in Dec, 2016 (according to a dev barrysty1e):

the coin locking has existed since december 2016

that didn't affect exchanges or their customers, coins were locked on their addresses, derived from cold storage and they were not spent on other exchanges etc. It didn't affect any buyers.
Only coins that were not returned to their rightful owners and were at the moment out of any exchanges and were not sold to anyone - were locked.

2. Block explorers show the first small move of  'locked' coins happened on March, 3, 2017.
Don't believe? Use any of 5 independent Mooncoin block explorers to track these addresses:
2cLG2RzF6rDCtNws6We8o8avXs1grqARHU
2FgWY2MjPn9AG3bhuRLH5mhCKyc17eVHRY

3. When Vassilis Kritharakis from Greece became a new transparent Mooncoin dev and took over the codebase in early December, 2017, later, about Christmas or New Year he started to publish his Mooncoin address (for donations) in his signature at Bitcointalk (he deleted his signature after the event with coins, however he doesn't deny the fact of receiving of 62B to his signature address, see the point 9 of this research).

Hi,

my name is Vassilis Kritharakis and I'm the official Developer of Mooncoin cryptocurrency. My email is bkrith@hotmail.com.


4. On December, 12, 2017 Vassilis published the new release of Mooncoin wallet:

Hi to all!

The new wallet is pre-released in our github repository https://github.com/mooncoincore/wallet !


5. The release of wallet (0.13) published on Dec, 12, 2017 was a copy of barrysty1e's 0.13 with some changes (part of code activating Balloonhash after the block 1,250,000 was inactivated and other small changes).
Major issues with stuck txs were fixed by Vassilis anyways only after Dec, 15, 2017:

I just fixed today the pool mining section and the transaction issues..

we passed "key" block #1180751 with 73(?!?!?!!??!) transactions! Few more tests and tomorrow i will inform all the pools to make an update!

I must thank public @mebagger, @coinflow, @GBLASS and @Laidback!
you guys spent your time with me and your resources!

Thank you for your contribution to the Mooncoin community!


6. On Dec, 14, 2017 1GMT coins again (the next time after March, 3, 2017) were moved from 'locked' addresses:
2cLG2RzF6rDCtNws6We8o8avXs1grqARHU
2FgWY2MjPn9AG3bhuRLH5mhCKyc17eVHRY

Obviously in just one day and a half it was not possible to update the wallet by all pools and exchanges. The majority of nodes still used the wallet 0.10.5 barrysty1e on Dec, 14, 2017, anyway even if they used a new 0.13 Vassilis wallet, released on Dec, 12, the code with barrysty1e's protection was just the same.

7. That meant only (with all respect to barry) that barrysty1e's protection was hacked. He did what he could, but an EXTRA LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE AND RESOURCES, ALSO DECENTRALISED OPEN SOURCE NATURE of Mooncoin made the hack of his protection possible.
It looks like they started their own pool, compiled their own wallets with inactivated protection in it and with the majority of hash power moved coins from locked addresses, however, without knowing of private keys this operation was not possible (it's not possible to move Mooncoins from addresses without knowing of their private keys - even with the majority of hash power).
Now we understand that Barrysty1e's protection used mempool of wallet, mining pools decide to accept a transaction and to include in the block (according to the wallet rules and consensus of miners), or not, that's why to hack the protection there should be both a wallet without a protection + a pool with the majority of power which uses the wallet with no protection.
  
8. Obviously, this extra level of knowledge and especially mining resources was possible for one who had a lot of experience in starting of mining pools. He controlled a lot of hash power, and very likely even more later - with cheap Chinese mining resources.

9. On Jan, 5, 2018 62B coins were moved from 'locked' addresses to an address of Vassilis Kritharakis from Greece, a new transparent dev of Mooncoin.


My address is published by me on bitcointalk and on discord, as donation address, i think ~3 days ago.. so, if i was a thief this will be very stupid from my side!
...............
Now those 62billions are on my account!(i think the amount and i think i will fade out!)


10. Some coins from 'locked' addresses were sold on exchanges in the middle of Dec, 2017 though (according to Vassilis who contacted exchanges to block these coins in Dec, 2017).

11. And that's the main question: why some coins were sold at exchanges in the middle of Dec, 2017, when the Mooncoin price was below 1 Sat, and when the price was 5 Satoshi on Jan, 5, 2018 no coins were sold and just sent to an address of Mooncoin dev, Vassilis.


12. The answer to this question is quite unexpected, but it disclosures the whole picture about these strange events.
Let's think logically: why someone spent some coins in Dec, 2017 when the price was below 1 Sat, but at the same time sent MAJORITY (62 billion of coins) to a known address of Mooncoin dev in Jan, 2018 when he could sell many billions for 5-4-3-2-1... Satoshi (there were big buy orders at exchange order books at the beginning of January, you can verify that using price and volume history at Coinmarketcap). We all know that the price of Mooncoin was dumped AFTER the move of 62 bil MOON to Vassilis' address. By panic guys or by investors who decided to close their positions on uncertainty, not by an exchange admin and not by Vassilis (you can see that 62 B still stay on Vassilis' address: 2QovBjnVke4fgn9UXdz9osheNLxQCk3d8R).
Obviously, it would be quite easy to dump these coins at decentralised exchanges with a discount or at an exchange with no withdrawal limits.That didn't happen.

An exchange admin didn't know where to send them to return coins. When barrysty1e (James) was a dev, another user CryptoDatabase started scam accusations threads against barrysty1e (they both don't like each other, and each of them believes he is right). Probably due to this negative trust rating an exchange admin didn't trust barry (though barry provided his identity to the community - could be seen in his 0.10.5 wallet's release).

13. When Vassilis became a transparent dev in Dec, 2017 and published his Mooncoin address in his signature at Bitcointalk, an exchange admin decided to send coins to his address, hoping that Vassilis as a transparent and responsible dev will return coins to their rightful owners. The mistake of the admin was that he didn't contact the community before this step. If he did that, he would knew that the community and the rightful owners would prefer to burn these coins, and then he could send coins directly to burn addresses.

14. That explains everything, except one thing to explain: why an exchange admin sent only 62 B. The answer is simple: it was mentioned that coins of customers were kept together with coins, belonged to an exchange, not on separate balances. But it was not possible to 'lock' some billions without 'locking' the rest of coins on these addresses and it was not possible to know an exact number of coins to lock - in 2016. Only these 62 B from locked coins belonged to exchange customers - that's the answer to the question of point 11.

15. That's the result of research about these strange events. Only these 62B (that were returned to a Mooncoin dev, Vassilis Kritharakis and stay on 2QovBjnVke4fgn9UXdz9osheNLxQCk3d8R) is a subject for decisions of majority of their owners (who already decided to burn these coins and posted about that transparently at Bitcointalk). All other coins from locked addresses (including those spent on exchanges) don't belong to the Mooncoin community and shouldn't be locked in any way.

16. There is some exception though:
1) 2DMfpxPiMtpVDVyrxQAAmfBbZnDH4XCMfK
2) 2JA3Cqf9on8YuxngxdXStCFKanAGnaQU5A
These 2 addresses still contain locked coins, but these addresses are not under control of any exchange admin, these addresses contain other locked coins, not related to 62B. . It's absolutely another story from 2014.
It's quite unlikely that a hacker could generate so much hash power as a person who sent 62B, to overcome barrysty1e's protection and to unlock these coins.

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You can verify the results of this research by googling, studying the history of Bitcointalk ANN threads, old and new Mooncoin Githubs https://github.com/mooncoindev and https://github.com/mooncoincore,
and if you have no time for doing that, the majority of this info can be verified fast with 5 independent Mooncoin block explorers:

http://moonchain.net
http://cryptoguru.tk/Blocks/index.php?Currency=MOON
https://prohashing.com/explorer/Mooncoin
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/moon
https://bchain.info/MOON

And again: all these events happened only because people kept coins at exchange. Never keep your coins at exchanges, not only for you, events show that it could be a risk for the whole community if you keep your coins at exchanges.


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May 21, 2018, 02:50:33 PM
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That was important for me to understand the truth about these events.
I agree, though, with people who say that we shouldn't focus on that situation.
The community transparently agreed to burn coins (should I quote hundreds of posts since January)?
There were unlucky events, but now things depend on Vassilis and on the procedure.
If we discuss these billions, people, especially newcomers don't understand what we are talking about and think something is wrong with Mooncoin itself.
The problem is: the situation depends on other people, we have nothing but wait,
if we discuss that again and again, it doesn't help, only creates an atmosphere of despair and uncertainty around Mooncoin.

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May 21, 2018, 02:56:54 PM
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That was important for me to understand the truth about these events.
I agree, though, with people who say that we shouldn't focus on that situation.
The community transparently agreed to burn coins (should I quote hundreds of posts since January)?
There were unlucky events, but now things depend on Vassilis and on the procedure.
If we discuss these billions, people, especially newcomers don't understand what we are talking about and think something is wrong with Mooncoin itself.
The problem is: the situation depends on other people, we have nothing but wait,
if we discuss that again and again, it doesn't help, only creates an atmosphere of despair and uncertainty around Mooncoin.

Good afternoon ! I agree with you. We have 2 new Teams (Mooncoin Team In Brazil, New Mooncoin Team) which work hardly about this project. Also, I am sure that we will have good news from their action soon ! 

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May 21, 2018, 03:51:28 PM
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hoping the New Team, comes up with a better name than that...

 :0

  Soon as they do, ill add that to the discord channel as a room. etc.

Im able to be a 'neutral' admin between any all groups.  and NOT lock anyone out
 (as long as they arent totally ..disruptive etc.  Basic moderator rules etc)

 Each team having its own Lead and its own moderator.


Unless the other discord channel is unlocked and open. (assuming that it exists, which i cant prove)

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