Ascendancy IPO Turned Into a Scam - Investigation in progress

[DarkStar_]

Those that have invested BTC and did NOT have their transaction sent to the escrow address:

We are trying to figure out exactly how much was scammed, as we are suspecting that the amount shown (in BTC) on the website was faked.
If you invested on Friday the 3rd of February, please submit this form:

FORM LINK

If your investment went into the escrow address, DO NOT use this form.

Attempts to cheat will result in your bitcointalk account getting multiple negative feedback ratings.

[AmoreJaz]

what is really sad is that most people dont listen to others and automatically think they will be rich or something!most scam coin are called at the very start of their ann within the first few pages! if you prefer not to listen to these people .... then it serves you right to lose you money to a scam. next time listen!

[Wolf Rainer]

Let me get this clear.

Was it clear from the beginning that investors will send the BTC to the scamteam first and the scamteam said "we will forward the invested BTC every 8 hours to our escrowers"?
Are you kidding me? Then why do you fucking have escrowers? LOL... how stupid can someone be, to join this scam as an escrower, if this was the deal? The job #1 of an escrower is to get the money directly from the investors. If you don't follow this rule #1 as an escrower, then your are guilty in my eyes.

I would normally agree with you 100% but the escrow agreement was right there in front of everyones eyes to read. Everything was written in black and white. Its not as if the escrows tried to dupe anyone here. Everything looked to be running smooth. Btc was going to the escrow address like it should and then all the sudden a big rush came in. The Ascendancyteam decided to scam.

Another scam ICO in crypto. So sorry to all thise that invested their BTC on this one. Not all ANNs with nice, shiny pictures and worded texts can be really trusted these days.

Escrows, did you at least verify the identities of the scammers before you agreed to escrow for them?

I don't think that escrow really did this. nor I think doing this would really a duty of escrows. in first days the project was all looks legit. even they transferred the invested funds into escrow constantly before. they just scammed in the last 8 hours..

and if they were identified than they were be Identified for the investors also. not only for escrows.

Sadly a lot of the investors don't spend a lot of time digging thru all the details of the "projects" and of the identities of the scammers. And a lot just look at the people associated with it like escrows, campaign managers, and other more experienced, "trustworthy" members in here.

Look lutpin is campaigning / promoting this new coin being escrowed by yahoo, minerjones with fancy webpage & nice pictures. Then it might be good. Lol  

Thats right, a lot of trusted members being the face of the project so people feel safe and invest money. If you see a police officer you asume its safe to enter that place, you dont expect to be robbed.

[jumphost404]

So I can confirm that "Andrew Penn" was at Ball State University yesterday and that he used a Mac to access my website. Good thing I don't get traffic to my website. If anyone wants read access to my google analytics account message me.

[Bitsyo]

So I can confirm that "Andrew Penn" was at Ball State University yesterday and that he used a Mac to access my website. Good thing I don't get traffic to my website. If anyone wants read access to my google analytics account message me.

How can you confirm it was "Andrew Penn" (his pseudonym) ? Just send the info to the one who is charge here for the investigation, there seems to be a lot of evidence now pilling up for a nice case and I'm again publicly giving this guys till Monday (else I'm filling up an FBI tip and I guess a lot of others will do the same) to clear their head and return those stolen BTCs, come here say sorry ask for forgivness, take a little word beating and let this case rest in peace and get on with your lives. Are you guys truly going to ignore all this and take a risk of going to jail for this?  This is not a petty crime, but grand theft (depending on the state, but usually anything over $1k is considered so) and if you are willing to spend up to a few years in jail for this, have a crime record (future employment), get kicked from university, be resented by your friends, look into your parents eyes with clear conscious, not to mention not sleeping well cause you'll live in uncertainty on when police/FBI/Interpol, ... might knock on your door? Well it is on you, you have been warned. You might laugh at all this, but karma will get you if no one else.

[jumphost404]

So I can confirm that "Andrew Penn" was at Ball State University yesterday and that he used a Mac to access my website. Good thing I don't get traffic to my website. If anyone wants read access to my google analytics account message me.

How can you confirm it was "Andrew Penn" (his pseudonym) ? Just send the info to the one who is charge here for the investigation, there seems to be a lot of evidence now pilling up for a nice case and I'm again publicly giving this guys till Monday (Else I'm filling up an FBI tip and I guess a lot of others will do the same) to clear their head and return those stolen BTCs, come here say sorry ask for forgivness, take a little word beating and let this case rest in peace and get on with your lives. Are you guys truly going to ignore all this and take a risk of going to jail for this?  This is not a petty crime, but grand theft (depending on the state, but usually anything over $1k is considered so) and if you are willing to spend up to a few years in jail for this, have a crime record (future employment), get kicked from university, be resented by your friends, look into your parents eyes with clear conscious? Well it is on you, you have been warned.

Here is how I can confirm "Andrew Penn" was on my website yesterday.
I messaged Andrew my tx address for the extra 15%. When doing so I informed him about a load issue on the IPO page after login ( sometimes it was blank after logging in) He said he had fixed it and I informed him that I was a developer and sent him a link to my website. We chatted then had a quick chat about code.
Google analytics shows 2 people on my website. One was me the other was from Ball state universities IP address. So unless he forwarded my link I sent him to someone  else from that location or was using a VPN located their, it was Andrew Peen, using chrome on a mac and whatever else google analytics captures

[killerjoegreece]

So I can confirm that "Andrew Penn" was at Ball State University yesterday and that he used a Mac to access my website. Good thing I don't get traffic to my website. If anyone wants read access to my google analytics account message me.

How can you confirm it was "Andrew Penn" (his pseudonym) ? Just send the info to the one who is charge here for the investigation, there seems to be a lot of evidence now pilling up for a nice case and I'm again publicly giving this guys till Monday (Else I'm filling up an FBI tip and I guess a lot of others will do the same) to clear their head and return those stolen BTCs, come here say sorry ask for forgivness, take a little word beating and let this case rest in peace and get on with your lives. Are you guys truly going to ignore all this and take a risk of going to jail for this?  This is not a petty crime, but grand theft (depending on the state, but usually anything over $1k is considered so) and if you are willing to spend up to a few years in jail for this, have a crime record (future employment), get kicked from university, be resented by your friends, look into your parents eyes with clear conscious? Well it is on you, you have been warned.

Here is how I can confirm "Andrew Penn" was on my website yesterday.
I messaged Andrew my tx address for the extra 15%. When doing so I informed him about a load issue on the IPO page after login ( sometimes it was blank after logging in) He said he had fixed it and I informed him that I was a developer and sent him a link to my website. We chatted then had a quick chat about code.
Google analytics shows 2 people on my website. One was me the other was from Ball state universities IP address. So unless he forwarded my link I sent him to someone  else from that location or was using a VPN located their, it was Andrew Peen, using chrome in a mac and whatever else google analytics captures

This IP can be really useful along with the other evidence associated with this project. please forward the info to the man in charge for the fbi/police tips. I too was involved and did the greek translation here. Im not expecting payment for this work but Im also never working again without upfront payment. I hope investors here get their money back and if the amounts on the website (for btc) are made up thats only a good thing and it shows that people may have lost way less on this debacle.

[jumphost404]

So I can confirm that "Andrew Penn" was at Ball State University yesterday and that he used a Mac to access my website. Good thing I don't get traffic to my website. If anyone wants read access to my google analytics account message me.

How can you confirm it was "Andrew Penn" (his pseudonym) ? Just send the info to the one who is charge here for the investigation, there seems to be a lot of evidence now pilling up for a nice case and I'm again publicly giving this guys till Monday (Else I'm filling up an FBI tip and I guess a lot of others will do the same) to clear their head and return those stolen BTCs, come here say sorry ask for forgivness, take a little word beating and let this case rest in peace and get on with your lives. Are you guys truly going to ignore all this and take a risk of going to jail for this?  This is not a petty crime, but grand theft (depending on the state, but usually anything over $1k is considered so) and if you are willing to spend up to a few years in jail for this, have a crime record (future employment), get kicked from university, be resented by your friends, look into your parents eyes with clear conscious? Well it is on you, you have been warned.

Here is how I can confirm "Andrew Penn" was on my website yesterday.
I messaged Andrew my tx address for the extra 15%. When doing so I informed him about a load issue on the IPO page after login ( sometimes it was blank after logging in) He said he had fixed it and I informed him that I was a developer and sent him a link to my website. We chatted then had a quick chat about code.
Google analytics shows 2 people on my website. One was me the other was from Ball state universities IP address. So unless he forwarded my link I sent him to someone  else from that location or was using a VPN located their, it was Andrew Peen, using chrome in a mac and whatever else google analytics captures

This IP can be really useful along with the other evidence associated with this project. please forward the info to the man in charge for the fbi/police tips. I too was involved and did the greek translation here. Im not expecting payment for this work but Im also never working again without upfront payment. I hope investors here get their money back and if the amounts on the website (for btc) are made up thats only a good thing and it shows that people may have lost way less on this debacle.

I just need to know who that is.

[Lauda]

I just need to know who that is.

I've already sent you a message. Please forward this evidence to me whenever possible.

Just send the info to the one who is charge here for the investigation, there seems to be a lot of evidence now pilling up for a nice case and I'm again publicly giving this guys till Monday (else I'm filling up an FBI tip and I guess a lot of others will do the same) to clear their head and return those stolen BTCs, come here say sorry ask for forgivness, take a little word beating and let this case rest in peace and get on with your lives.

While we are not going to file that report on Monday, it is coming very soon, especially if the stolen Bitcoin are not returned. The criminal this has a chance to send everything that they've stolen to the original multisignature escrow address.

I hope investors here get their money back and if the amounts on the website (for btc) are made up thats only a good thing and it shows that people may have lost way less on this debacle.

It is still not known how much was actually stolen. Therefore, the Google forms link was posted by DarkStar.

[scam_exposer]

An IPO/ICO is a scam?  

Who would have thought?

All these shitcoins are scams

Anyone that believes the bullshit these scammers claim or think a whitepaper gives credibility is an idiot.

[Tasty Potato]

Those that have invested BTC and did NOT have their transaction sent to the escrow address:

We are trying to figure out exactly how much was scammed, as we are suspecting that the amount shown (in BTC) on the website was faked.
If you invested on Friday the 3rd of February, please submit this form:

FORM LINK

If your investment went into the escrow address, DO NOT use this form.

Attempts to cheat will result in your bitcointalk account getting multiple negative feedback ratings.

What to do for those who DID have their transaction sent to the escrow address ??

What's the progress on that? What info might be needed from these investors and whome to contact? 

[Tasty Potato]

I hope investors here get their money back and if the amounts on the website (for btc) are made up thats only a good thing and it shows that people may have lost way less on this debacle.

It is still not known how much was actually stolen. Therefore, the Google forms link was posted by DarkStar.

What's the plan or progress for those who had their investment sent into the escrow address?

What's the progress on that? What info might be needed from these investors and whome to contact? 

[kellendil]

The weird thing is, i asked them for a pre ico investment option because i thought that they were legit but they didnt accept my offer, luckily for me. İ think that they are the same guys from opair and declouds.

[DarkStar_]

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What to do for those who DID have their transaction sent to the escrow address ??

What's the progress on that? What info might be needed from these investors and whome to contact? 

Nothing at the moment. We want to get a grasp of exactly now much was scammed, so we can decide how to refund people. We are currently discussing how we want to refund everyone, but a decision has not been made yet. If it did go to the address though, we can easily figure out how much each person deposited based on the inputs.

[Lauda]

What's the plan or progress for those who had their investment sent into the escrow address?

We are doing our best in order to catch the criminal(s) and figure out the best plan forward. It will take us a a while to process everything. Please be patient.
All the funds on the escrow address are safe. You will be informed as soon as possible.

What's the progress on that? What info might be needed from these investors and whome to contact?  

That hasn't been yet decided. It is likely that you are going to have to provide the following information:
1) Address(es) used to invest with.
2) TX ID.
3) Amount.
4) Signed message from said addresses.

[Gleb Gamow]

So I can confirm that "Andrew Penn" was at Ball State University yesterday and that he used a Mac to access my website. Good thing I don't get traffic to my website. If anyone wants read access to my google analytics account message me.

Reads to me like Ball State WILL now be the center of this investigation with Michael Adair being pulled from class by the Muncie police department because he's too stupid to either return the funds or try to hide somewhere else on the planet.

Meanwhile, here's the link to a PDF of Adairs' now deleted Linkedin account - https://i.imgur.com/p7hzvqK.png (formerly thought it was still up due to Chrome archiving a cache on my browser, my I.E. depicting that it was indeed deleted).

Now deleted: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-adair-9b82476b/

@ Michael Adair et al: Be very, very fearful as to what else is in the investigators' possession yet to be disclosed, some containing vitals we fully know you don't want revealed coz it'll fuck you up more than how badly you're fucked now. There's still time to do what's right, but that window of opportunity is closing very, very quickly, but rest assured that those donning pitchforks haven't sharpen the rusty prongs for a good long time and them tooters haven't practiced of late, thus their aims may be off when they shoot for your eyeballs, missing and hitting your balls instead, or vice versa.

[seven.71]

back again before his fraud ICO Lithium and now Ascendary
whereas quite confident about this project with the designated Escrow but still happened if it can be improved ICO which is held at BTT forum

[Tasty Potato]

What's the plan or progress for those who had their investment sent into the escrow address?

We are doing our best in order to catch the criminal(s) and figure out the best plan forward. It will take us a a while to process everything. Please be patient.
All the funds on the escrow address are safe. You will be informed as soon as possible.

What's the progress on that? What info might be needed from these investors and whome to contact?  

That hasn't been yet decided. It is likely that you are going to have to provide the following information:
1) Address(es) used to invest with.
2) TX ID.
3) Amount.
4) Signed message from said addresses.

Ok, i see. I will wait and provide the needed info as soon as re-sends to investors begin.

Can we pin 'what to do guides' for both escrowed and snatched investments at the first post?

[SEOcrypto]

MICHAEL YOU MIGHT WANT TO RETURN THE MONEY BRO

[Supebox]

At least try to convince us

We're trying to.No doubt lisk is great but their architecture is somewhat complicated for newbie
programmers to start writing decentralzied apps.We cover up the capabilities what Lisk failed to offer
in terms of programming.For example,lisk doesn't have Plugin exporting methods,ASC does.This is one
of the differences, incase you'd like to know more,please message us I'm very open to discuss it with you.

It's interesting you take the time to answer him but not me.
So do they other guys.

Sorry but I might have missed your post.Also IPO stuff keeps us busy but I try to reply to most of the comments where people need technical specs.

Because let's face it.

1) The developers won't show their face, they just want our money and run
2) The hired guns just want their fee,

1.Have you seen Satoshi ? You trust in bitcoin right ?

Tell me did you see the actual developers or do just just speak to them on chat?
If yes why are their hiding. They want over 400K for 'development' but can't even show their face? How rude is that!!!

Again,it doesn't matter.You're telling me other projects didn't turn scam where their devs had posted their faces ? It's a wrong notion.The IPO money doesn't go in our pockets,it goes to escrows who are quite trusted around the forum.

They smell "ICO" money; Waves, Rise, Lisk and now want their peace. But look how lazy these guys are.

This (https://ascendancy.io/whitepaper.pdf) is not a whitepaper. This is a useless word presentation a first grader can make.

Hypothetical.I will work on documenting it.Thanks for the suggestion and sorry it wasn't upto your standards.

The website (https://ascendancy.io/#/) Isn't even finished. Deadlinks and just 2/3 pages.

What else do you expect the website to have ?

How can you expect people to trust you can actually develop a simple blog for that matter
1 if you hide behind your pc
2 make a bogus presentation/whitepaper with WORD
3 your website contains no information but just a few hundred words with bla bla.
Not even a simple contactform

1.Trust in the project.
2.Whitepaper will be worked on.
3.Making a fancy website makes our project more trustworthy ? I think not.

On fiver.com you probably pay 30 bucks for both the website and content...

So now you want to create your own framework for 400k... well first build a website then we will see further.

Because yes even if the dev get 400k with or without showing their faces they will probably hire real developer for let's say 10-15k to actually make it.

Making a framework is different from making a website.Not sure what exactly you're ranting about.

First of all, sorry for the people who did get parted with their money. But honestly all the red signals were there.
- Legit questions not being answered
- Anonymous developers
- "Escrow" address not managed by the escrow holders
- Lack of a white paper

etc. etc.

@Joel as I said before and will say again  youwere a hired gun, but equally guilty in this mess/scam.

You are always the first to rant about anything and I was surprised to see you even participated in this ICO, but then thought you needed more money seeing all those ICO money

But then i remembered something.
People invested because of the people associating in this ICO. In this case you.

Because you rant a lot but you build your profile to be trusted and a guy who would never associated in a scam.
For that reason when i read this comment:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1464725.msg14828207#msg14828207
http://archive.is/tyoip
"Good Project.Usually I don't risk money with AltCoins,yours seem organised .I hope it remains the same throughout.Bought 100 Oph's for now ,I will invest more after seeing the numbers in the second stage."

So I decided to invest in the OPHION ICO.

And what happened, like the ASC team they run away with the money.

It's not often that you actively participate but in both SCAMS there are many references:

https://i.imgur.com/Hg7UaxS.png[

1 You promoted both (1 more actively then the other). In the OPHION scam you even offered your help promoting it.
2 Both scammers sign their messages with: - name
3 And if i look at the image (see the selected text from the scammer), it's the same aggression tone we can expect from you.
4 In the OPHION scam you opened this scam accusation thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1479475.0
Too prove what? Your innocence?
5 In both scams 2 'guys/developers' tagged their name the same way. Or was it to remember in what character they were?
 
@The scam hunters.
You might want to look more into Joel Jantsen.
1 He's by far not innocent in this Project
2 But I don't think the above is just a coincidence

@GLEB
You should check the above and verify it, because you may be behind the wrong guy(s). In the OPHION scam they made a false Linkedin page too.
And from what I just read you helped the community with your skillset.