Talking about Atheism...

[BADecker]

We barely understand much of anything about the universe. There is no way to understand about the nature of God, Who was outside of the universe when He made it, is outside of the universe and nature that He made as well as within it.

There is no cycle of infinity. Entropy proves that there is a beginning.

Machines like nature of the universe rebuttal
BADecker believes that machines need a maker and that maker has to be a god.

BADekcer KNOWS that machines need makers. Let's see a car or TV or cyclotron that just popped into existence without being made. There is absolutely not one machine in nature that can be shown to break the pattern of machines being made. If there is, where is it? All machines of nature were made through the process of cause and effect.

The proof of God is explained more, here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The reality of this is that evolution has caused the changes. http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v481/n7381/full/nature10724.html  

Probability math and irreducible complexity are only two of the many things that show and prove that evolution is impossible. Since scientists know this, they have made science fiction for themselves in the evolution idea. However, they gradually change the definition of "evolution" over time, to wiggle out from under their faulty evidence that proves an embarrassment to them.

The website listed doesn't go far enough to explain the way all-pervading cause and effect make changes. The changes have been programmed into the universe through cause and effect. Cause and effect was set into motion by God... whatever God might be. Check the links for the proof that God exists to see how this works.

BADecker then claims that this is only theory. The reality is that science is disproving/proving all theories  we (humans) have believed for years. That is the nature of science. For it to be tested by others. People like BADecker will continually use their same argument of assumptions to state there is no proof that god does not exist.

When explanations in science are limited, the knowledge that God exists are limited, as well.

The reality is that history has shown that early Vikings believed  "lightning flashed whenever Thor threw his hammer". Science has proven this incorrect.

Getting into religion again, right?

Nations looking for god rebuttal
BADecker claims that people are looking for how the universe was made. This is true. However, BADecker then claims that because the answers are still not found, the answer must be a god.

Since science shows that God created the universe - even though the little bit of science that we know doesn't explain much of anything about the nature of God - it isn't a "must be" answer. The way the scientific laws of cause and effect, entropy, and complexity work together, prove that God exists.

WRONG.... this is not proof. This is an assumption again on BADecker's part. Science is unlocking secrets every day. Religion is being disproven daily and BADecker continues to hold on to his mindless views.

Nothing is proof to someone who doesn't understand it... but especially to someone who doesn't want to understand it. The proof of this can be found by comparing what stats says against the proof for the existence of God found in the proof links, above.

You are the only person to believe your links are proof little man.

How about you provide real proof of your god.

Your assumptions mean nothing.

Now all of a sudden, you not only have penetrated the whole universe to see that God doesn't exist anywhere, but you have also checked the hearts and minds of all people on earth, as well as those in the ISS, to see that none of them believe the way I do.

Perhaps you should seek psychiatric help somewhere, before you literally do go off the deep end.

Similar to the same assumptions you make.

Fun doing things this way.

Whos your Psych?  Ill give that person a call.

Actually, different. You are the one claiming the assumptions. So, for you atheism is not a real thing. Yet you state that it is in other posts. So, it is you contradicting yourself.

I, on the other hand, know that science proves that God exists, and that atheism doesn't exist in the minds of thinking people. So, we both agree that atheism is not solidly real, even though we disagree about God.

Finally. An on topic move towards agreement regarding atheism.

Puddleduck..... can you show me where i say Atheism isnt real?

I have always claimed myself as an atheist.

You make assumptions to prove to yourself your god exists.

The rest of us think you are full of shit.

You say atheism is an assumption.

Follow the 4 highlighted sections up.



EDIT: There was a time when I thought your fighting against God was a real fight against God. I am coming to understand that you have such a low IQ that you barely know what you are talking about when you speak it. After all, I have to highlight the things you say just to remind you that you said them. You can't even figure out where to look without my highlighting.

There is nothing wrong with having a low IQ. Your stubbornness is probably your high quality that offsets your low IQ. So, you have good points right along with the bad... same as everyone else.

My point in this edit is, I need to give you more credit where the credit is due, the strength of your blind stubbornness.

[stats]

We barely understand much of anything about the universe. There is no way to understand about the nature of God, Who was outside of the universe when He made it, is outside of the universe and nature that He made as well as within it.

There is no cycle of infinity. Entropy proves that there is a beginning.

Machines like nature of the universe rebuttal
BADecker believes that machines need a maker and that maker has to be a god.

BADekcer KNOWS that machines need makers. Let's see a car or TV or cyclotron that just popped into existence without being made. There is absolutely not one machine in nature that can be shown to break the pattern of machines being made. If there is, where is it? All machines of nature were made through the process of cause and effect.

The proof of God is explained more, here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The reality of this is that evolution has caused the changes. http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v481/n7381/full/nature10724.html  

Probability math and irreducible complexity are only two of the many things that show and prove that evolution is impossible. Since scientists know this, they have made science fiction for themselves in the evolution idea. However, they gradually change the definition of "evolution" over time, to wiggle out from under their faulty evidence that proves an embarrassment to them.

The website listed doesn't go far enough to explain the way all-pervading cause and effect make changes. The changes have been programmed into the universe through cause and effect. Cause and effect was set into motion by God... whatever God might be. Check the links for the proof that God exists to see how this works.

BADecker then claims that this is only theory. The reality is that science is disproving/proving all theories  we (humans) have believed for years. That is the nature of science. For it to be tested by others. People like BADecker will continually use their same argument of assumptions to state there is no proof that god does not exist.

When explanations in science are limited, the knowledge that God exists are limited, as well.

The reality is that history has shown that early Vikings believed  "lightning flashed whenever Thor threw his hammer". Science has proven this incorrect.

Getting into religion again, right?

Nations looking for god rebuttal
BADecker claims that people are looking for how the universe was made. This is true. However, BADecker then claims that because the answers are still not found, the answer must be a god.

Since science shows that God created the universe - even though the little bit of science that we know doesn't explain much of anything about the nature of God - it isn't a "must be" answer. The way the scientific laws of cause and effect, entropy, and complexity work together, prove that God exists.

WRONG.... this is not proof. This is an assumption again on BADecker's part. Science is unlocking secrets every day. Religion is being disproven daily and BADecker continues to hold on to his mindless views.

Nothing is proof to someone who doesn't understand it... but especially to someone who doesn't want to understand it. The proof of this can be found by comparing what stats says against the proof for the existence of God found in the proof links, above.

You are the only person to believe your links are proof little man.

How about you provide real proof of your god.

Your assumptions mean nothing.

Now all of a sudden, you not only have penetrated the whole universe to see that God doesn't exist anywhere, but you have also checked the hearts and minds of all people on earth, as well as those in the ISS, to see that none of them believe the way I do.

Perhaps you should seek psychiatric help somewhere, before you literally do go off the deep end.

Similar to the same assumptions you make.

Fun doing things this way.

Whos your Psych?  Ill give that person a call.

Actually, different. You are the one claiming the assumptions. So, for you atheism is not a real thing. Yet you state that it is in other posts. So, it is you contradicting yourself.

I, on the other hand, know that science proves that God exists, and that atheism doesn't exist in the minds of thinking people. So, we both agree that atheism is not solidly real, even though we disagree about God.

Finally. An on topic move towards agreement regarding atheism.

Puddleduck..... can you show me where i say Atheism isnt real?

I have always claimed myself as an atheist.

You make assumptions to prove to yourself your god exists.

The rest of us think you are full of shit.

You say atheism is an assumption.

Follow the 4 highlighted sections up.



EDIT: There was a time when I thought your fighting against God was a real fight against God. I am coming to understand that you have such a low IQ that you barely know what you are talking about when you speak it. After all, I have to highlight the things you say just to remind you that you said them. You can't even figure out where to look without my highlighting.

There is nothing wrong with having a low IQ. Your stubbornness is probably your high quality that offsets your low IQ. So, you have good points right along with the bad... same as everyone else.

My point in this edit is, I need to give you more credit where the credit is due, the strength of your blind stubbornness.

That would be the first positive thing (albeit wrong) you have ever written here.

Im impressed.... there is a part of you which can be nice and have nothing to do with your religion.

Pity your highlighted bits identify my claims that you assume things with no proof, and my claims of atheism being true.

No if you stay on target... things will be so much easier.

[BADecker]

We barely understand much of anything about the universe. There is no way to understand about the nature of God, Who was outside of the universe when He made it, is outside of the universe and nature that He made as well as within it.

There is no cycle of infinity. Entropy proves that there is a beginning.

Machines like nature of the universe rebuttal
BADecker believes that machines need a maker and that maker has to be a god.

BADekcer KNOWS that machines need makers. Let's see a car or TV or cyclotron that just popped into existence without being made. There is absolutely not one machine in nature that can be shown to break the pattern of machines being made. If there is, where is it? All machines of nature were made through the process of cause and effect.

The proof of God is explained more, here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

The reality of this is that evolution has caused the changes. http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v481/n7381/full/nature10724.html  

Probability math and irreducible complexity are only two of the many things that show and prove that evolution is impossible. Since scientists know this, they have made science fiction for themselves in the evolution idea. However, they gradually change the definition of "evolution" over time, to wiggle out from under their faulty evidence that proves an embarrassment to them.

The website listed doesn't go far enough to explain the way all-pervading cause and effect make changes. The changes have been programmed into the universe through cause and effect. Cause and effect was set into motion by God... whatever God might be. Check the links for the proof that God exists to see how this works.

BADecker then claims that this is only theory. The reality is that science is disproving/proving all theories  we (humans) have believed for years. That is the nature of science. For it to be tested by others. People like BADecker will continually use their same argument of assumptions to state there is no proof that god does not exist.

When explanations in science are limited, the knowledge that God exists are limited, as well.

The reality is that history has shown that early Vikings believed  "lightning flashed whenever Thor threw his hammer". Science has proven this incorrect.

Getting into religion again, right?

Nations looking for god rebuttal
BADecker claims that people are looking for how the universe was made. This is true. However, BADecker then claims that because the answers are still not found, the answer must be a god.

Since science shows that God created the universe - even though the little bit of science that we know doesn't explain much of anything about the nature of God - it isn't a "must be" answer. The way the scientific laws of cause and effect, entropy, and complexity work together, prove that God exists.

WRONG.... this is not proof. This is an assumption again on BADecker's part. Science is unlocking secrets every day. Religion is being disproven daily and BADecker continues to hold on to his mindless views.

Nothing is proof to someone who doesn't understand it... but especially to someone who doesn't want to understand it. The proof of this can be found by comparing what stats says against the proof for the existence of God found in the proof links, above.

You are the only person to believe your links are proof little man.

How about you provide real proof of your god.

Your assumptions mean nothing.

Now all of a sudden, you not only have penetrated the whole universe to see that God doesn't exist anywhere, but you have also checked the hearts and minds of all people on earth, as well as those in the ISS, to see that none of them believe the way I do.

Perhaps you should seek psychiatric help somewhere, before you literally do go off the deep end.

Similar to the same assumptions you make.

Fun doing things this way.

Whos your Psych?  Ill give that person a call.

Actually, different. You are the one claiming the assumptions. So, for you atheism is not a real thing. Yet you state that it is in other posts. So, it is you contradicting yourself.

I, on the other hand, know that science proves that God exists, and that atheism doesn't exist in the minds of thinking people. So, we both agree that atheism is not solidly real, even though we disagree about God.

Finally. An on topic move towards agreement regarding atheism.

Puddleduck..... can you show me where i say Atheism isnt real?

I have always claimed myself as an atheist.

You make assumptions to prove to yourself your god exists.

The rest of us think you are full of shit.

You say atheism is an assumption.

Follow the 4 highlighted sections up.



EDIT: There was a time when I thought your fighting against God was a real fight against God. I am coming to understand that you have such a low IQ that you barely know what you are talking about when you speak it. After all, I have to highlight the things you say just to remind you that you said them. You can't even figure out where to look without my highlighting.

There is nothing wrong with having a low IQ. Your stubbornness is probably your high quality that offsets your low IQ. So, you have good points right along with the bad... same as everyone else.

My point in this edit is, I need to give you more credit where the credit is due, the strength of your blind stubbornness.

That would be the first positive thing (albeit wrong) you have ever written here.

Im impressed.... there is a part of you which can be nice and have nothing to do with your religion.

Pity your highlighted bits identify my claims that you assume things with no proof, and my claims of atheism being true.

No if you stay on target... things will be so much easier.

That's my whole point about you. Any other person would realize that atheism doesn't exist, that it is foolish, that the greatest truth that it has is that it is a false religion. Logic dictates this, and my explanations clarify it. But your IQ is low enough that you don't seem to understand... or you would foolishly keep atheism as a religion even after I logically show you how ridiculous it is.

[Moloch]

If that is christian "science"... I'll stick with atheist/secular, evidence based science (by definition, the only kind of science)

Thanks, but no thanks

[Eternu]

If that is christian "science"... I'll stick with atheist/secular, evidence based science (by definition, the only kind of science)

Thanks, but no thanks

I think that this picture that you found somewhere on the internet is nothing but a picture. It could be easily made by some people who do not support religion, or it could be made by some people that are stupid enough to believe in such things. Either way, its not something that is worth losing your belief. But we live in world of free will, so people will believe in all kind of things so ...

[BADecker]

If that is christian "science"... I'll stick with atheist/secular, evidence based science (by definition, the only kind of science)

Thanks, but no thanks

I think that this picture that you found somewhere on the internet is nothing but a picture. It could be easily made by some people who do not support religion, or it could be made by some people that are stupid enough to believe in such things. Either way, its not something that is worth losing your belief. But we live in world of free will, so people will believe in all kind of things so ...

Do you believe God created Earth 6000-7000 years ago like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe God created man from dirt like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe God created woman from a rib bone like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe you believe a global flood happened 4000 years ago (killing everything that was not on the Noah's ark) like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe we should kill gays like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe we should kill people who work on Sabbath like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

If you answered yes to any of the above questions, you might a Christian (and are slightly retarded).

The important point in the, above, questions is the part that says, "like the Bible says."

When you look at all the scientific reasons why many people think that we live on a young earth, and that billions of years  is complete nonsense, you will find that the Bible is way more accurate than standard science suggests.

The Bible doesn't say that God created man from dirt. Read what it says.

The Bible doesn't say that God created woman from a rib bone. However, it is way easier creating a woman from a rib bone than it is to form some dust of the ground into a man, and then breathe the breath of life into him.

The Bible doesn't say that a global flood happened 4000 years ago. If you want to see the approximate time the Bible says for it, look here: http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

The Bible doesn't say we should kill gays. Did you see your name or the name of anyone else in there with the instruction for him/her to do this?

The Bible doesn't say we should kill people who work on the Sabbath. Or DID you find your name in there with that instruction?

Since the questions are essentially invalid questions, if you answered yes to any of those question, you might be a Jew or a Christian. You really need to go back and check out what the Bible says, thoroughly, like af_newbie obviously didn't.

[Moloch]

If that is christian "science"... I'll stick with atheist/secular, evidence based science (by definition, the only kind of science)

Thanks, but no thanks

I think that this picture that you found somewhere on the internet is nothing but a picture. It could be easily made by some people who do not support religion, or it could be made by some people that are stupid enough to believe in such things. Either way, its not something that is worth losing your belief. But we live in world of free will, so people will believe in all kind of things so ...

Do you believe God created Earth 6000-7000 years ago like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe God created man from dirt like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe God created woman from a rib bone like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe you believe a global flood happened 4000 years ago (killing everything that was not on the Noah's ark) like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe we should kill gays like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe we should kill people who work on Sabbath like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

If you answered yes to any of the above questions, you might a Christian (and are slightly retarded).

The important point in the, above, questions is the part that says, "like the Bible says."

When you look at all the scientific reasons why many people think that we live on a young earth, and that billions of years  is complete nonsense, you will find that the Bible is way more accurate than standard science suggests.

The Bible doesn't say that God created man from dirt. Read what it says.

The Bible doesn't say that God created woman from a rib bone. However, it is way easier creating a woman from a rib bone than it is to form some dust of the ground into a man, and then breathe the breath of life into him.

The Bible doesn't say that a global flood happened 4000 years ago. If you want to see the approximate time the Bible says for it, look here: http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

The Bible doesn't say we should kill gays. Did you see your name or the name of anyone else in there with the instruction for him/her to do this?

The Bible doesn't say we should kill people who work on the Sabbath. Or DID you find your name in there with that instruction?

Since the questions are essentially invalid questions, if you answered yes to any of those question, you might be a Jew or a Christian. You really need to go back and check out what the Bible says, thoroughly, like af_newbie obviously didn't.

Did you even read your own link?

...this places the onset of the Flood at around 2331 B.C.

The genealogy of Genesis 5:3-32 precludes any gaps due to its tight chronological structure and gives us 1,656 years between Creation and the Flood, thus bringing Creation Week back to near 3987 B.C. or approximately 4000 B.C.

Let's do the math the double-check:
Creation happened 3987BC
Flood happened 1656 years later
3987 - 1656 = 2331BC
2331 + 2017 = 4348 years ago

So, "The Bible doesn't say that a global flood happened 4000 years ago"?... is 4000 not close enough to 4348?

[Buffer Overflow]

The Bible doesn't say we should kill people who work on the Sabbath. Or DID you find your name in there with that instruction?

Jesus salvation thingy didn't have my name in there with that instruction.

So according to BADlogic, I can safely ignore that one too.  

And I will.  

[Moloch]

The Bible doesn't say we should kill people who work on the Sabbath. Or DID you find your name in there with that instruction?

Jesus salvation thingy didn't have my name in there with that instruction.

So according to BADlogic, I can safely ignore that one too.  

And I will.  

The bible doesn't say what?

These are the things that the LORD has commanded you to do. 2 Six days work shall be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ‘Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever.  It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy.  Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy.  Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community.  Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest.  I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’

[BADecker]

http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/files/2013/04/TYpLJpOh.jpg

If that is christian "science"... I'll stick with atheist/secular, evidence based science (by definition, the only kind of science)

Thanks, but no thanks

I think that this picture that you found somewhere on the internet is nothing but a picture. It could be easily made by some people who do not support religion, or it could be made by some people that are stupid enough to believe in such things. Either way, its not something that is worth losing your belief. But we live in world of free will, so people will believe in all kind of things so ...

Do you believe God created Earth 6000-7000 years ago like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe God created man from dirt like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe God created woman from a rib bone like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe you believe a global flood happened 4000 years ago (killing everything that was not on the Noah's ark) like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe we should kill gays like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe we should kill people who work on Sabbath like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

If you answered yes to any of the above questions, you might a Christian (and are slightly retarded).

The important point in the, above, questions is the part that says, "like the Bible says."

When you look at all the scientific reasons why many people think that we live on a young earth, and that billions of years  is complete nonsense, you will find that the Bible is way more accurate than standard science suggests.

The Bible doesn't say that God created man from dirt. Read what it says.

The Bible doesn't say that God created woman from a rib bone. However, it is way easier creating a woman from a rib bone than it is to form some dust of the ground into a man, and then breathe the breath of life into him.

The Bible doesn't say that a global flood happened 4000 years ago. If you want to see the approximate time the Bible says for it, look here: http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

The Bible doesn't say we should kill gays. Did you see your name or the name of anyone else in there with the instruction for him/her to do this?

The Bible doesn't say we should kill people who work on the Sabbath. Or DID you find your name in there with that instruction?

Since the questions are essentially invalid questions, if you answered yes to any of those question, you might be a Jew or a Christian. You really need to go back and check out what the Bible says, thoroughly, like af_newbie obviously didn't.

I have not met one Jew who thinks that Earth was created 6000-7000 years ago or that the flood happened 4000-5000 years ago.  Only slightly retarded Christians believe in this shit.
Maybe some Orthodox lunatics do as well, not sure.   - Well, most Jews don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah, either. But they are way ahead of you. You barely have figured out that you aren't really an atheist.

In any case, it is nuts to believe in any of this shit.   - Since God guided the writing of those things you call shit, it would be extremely unwise to NOT believe it.

BTW, Bible says all of the above things.  If you think it doesn't you don't know your Bible. - You are unordinarily dense today.

Genesis 2:7
7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. - Well, at least you could have found some words about God creating man if that's what you were trying to show us.

Genesis 2:21, 2:22
21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[g] and then closed up the place with flesh.
22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[h] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. - Well, at least you could have found some words about God creating woman from a rib if that's what you were trying to show us.

Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. - Well, at least you could have found the place where my name or yours is listed, if you were trying to show that this directive was for you or me.

Exodus 31:15
15 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death. - Well, at least you could have found the place where my name or yours is listed, if you were trying to show that this directive was for you or me.

Is the above clear to you BADecker?  Or you need to text your God to check the meaning of the above verses?  

Oh for the sake of clarity. The world for clarity.

[BADecker]

http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/files/2013/04/TYpLJpOh.jpg

If that is christian "science"... I'll stick with atheist/secular, evidence based science (by definition, the only kind of science)

Thanks, but no thanks

I think that this picture that you found somewhere on the internet is nothing but a picture. It could be easily made by some people who do not support religion, or it could be made by some people that are stupid enough to believe in such things. Either way, its not something that is worth losing your belief. But we live in world of free will, so people will believe in all kind of things so ...

Do you believe God created Earth 6000-7000 years ago like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe God created man from dirt like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe God created woman from a rib bone like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe you believe a global flood happened 4000 years ago (killing everything that was not on the Noah's ark) like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe we should kill gays like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe we should kill people who work on Sabbath like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

If you answered yes to any of the above questions, you might a Christian (and are slightly retarded).

The important point in the, above, questions is the part that says, "like the Bible says."

When you look at all the scientific reasons why many people think that we live on a young earth, and that billions of years  is complete nonsense, you will find that the Bible is way more accurate than standard science suggests.

The Bible doesn't say that God created man from dirt. Read what it says.

The Bible doesn't say that God created woman from a rib bone. However, it is way easier creating a woman from a rib bone than it is to form some dust of the ground into a man, and then breathe the breath of life into him.

The Bible doesn't say that a global flood happened 4000 years ago. If you want to see the approximate time the Bible says for it, look here: http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

The Bible doesn't say we should kill gays. Did you see your name or the name of anyone else in there with the instruction for him/her to do this?

The Bible doesn't say we should kill people who work on the Sabbath. Or DID you find your name in there with that instruction?

Since the questions are essentially invalid questions, if you answered yes to any of those question, you might be a Jew or a Christian. You really need to go back and check out what the Bible says, thoroughly, like af_newbie obviously didn't.

I have not met one Jew who thinks that Earth was created 6000-7000 years ago or that the flood happened 4000-5000 years ago.  Only slightly retarded Christians believe in this shit.
Maybe some Orthodox lunatics do as well, not sure.   - Well, most Jews don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah, either. But they are way ahead of you. You barely have figured out that you aren't really an atheist.

In any case, it is nuts to believe in any of this shit.   - Since God guided the writing of those things you call shit, it would be extremely unwise to NOT believe it.

BTW, Bible says all of the above things.  If you think it doesn't you don't know your Bible. - You are unordinarily dense today.

Genesis 2:7
7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. - Well, at least you could have found some words about God creating man if that's what you were trying to show us.

Genesis 2:21, 2:22
21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[g] and then closed up the place with flesh.
22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[h] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. - Well, at least you could have found some words about God creating woman from a rib if that's what you were trying to show us.

Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. - Well, at least you could have found the place where my name or yours is listed, if you were trying to show that this directive was for you or me.

Exodus 31:15
15 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death. - Well, at least you could have found the place where my name or yours is listed, if you were trying to show that this directive was for you or me.

Is the above clear to you BADecker?  Or you need to text your God to check the meaning of the above verses?  

Oh for the sake of clarity. The world for clarity.

So going by your BADlogic,

How do you know the rest of the Bible is for you? Your name is not in the Bible, why do you even read it?
It has not been addressed to you, why bother?

You are starting to catch my drift. Find out who the directives in the Bible are for before you start saying that it directs anybody to do anything.

[BADecker]

http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/files/2013/04/TYpLJpOh.jpg

If that is christian "science"... I'll stick with atheist/secular, evidence based science (by definition, the only kind of science)

Thanks, but no thanks

I think that this picture that you found somewhere on the internet is nothing but a picture. It could be easily made by some people who do not support religion, or it could be made by some people that are stupid enough to believe in such things. Either way, its not something that is worth losing your belief. But we live in world of free will, so people will believe in all kind of things so ...

Do you believe God created Earth 6000-7000 years ago like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe God created man from dirt like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe God created woman from a rib bone like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe you believe a global flood happened 4000 years ago (killing everything that was not on the Noah's ark) like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe we should kill gays like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

Do you believe we should kill people who work on Sabbath like the Bible says?  Yes or no?

If you answered yes to any of the above questions, you might a Christian (and are slightly retarded).

The important point in the, above, questions is the part that says, "like the Bible says."

When you look at all the scientific reasons why many people think that we live on a young earth, and that billions of years  is complete nonsense, you will find that the Bible is way more accurate than standard science suggests.

The Bible doesn't say that God created man from dirt. Read what it says.

The Bible doesn't say that God created woman from a rib bone. However, it is way easier creating a woman from a rib bone than it is to form some dust of the ground into a man, and then breathe the breath of life into him.

The Bible doesn't say that a global flood happened 4000 years ago. If you want to see the approximate time the Bible says for it, look here: http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

The Bible doesn't say we should kill gays. Did you see your name or the name of anyone else in there with the instruction for him/her to do this?

The Bible doesn't say we should kill people who work on the Sabbath. Or DID you find your name in there with that instruction?

Since the questions are essentially invalid questions, if you answered yes to any of those question, you might be a Jew or a Christian. You really need to go back and check out what the Bible says, thoroughly, like af_newbie obviously didn't.

I have not met one Jew who thinks that Earth was created 6000-7000 years ago or that the flood happened 4000-5000 years ago.  Only slightly retarded Christians believe in this shit.
Maybe some Orthodox lunatics do as well, not sure.   - Well, most Jews don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah, either. But they are way ahead of you. You barely have figured out that you aren't really an atheist.

In any case, it is nuts to believe in any of this shit.   - Since God guided the writing of those things you call shit, it would be extremely unwise to NOT believe it.

BTW, Bible says all of the above things.  If you think it doesn't you don't know your Bible. - You are unordinarily dense today.

Genesis 2:7
7 Then the Lord God formed a man[c] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. - Well, at least you could have found some words about God creating man if that's what you were trying to show us.

Genesis 2:21, 2:22
21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[g] and then closed up the place with flesh.
22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[h] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. - Well, at least you could have found some words about God creating woman from a rib if that's what you were trying to show us.

Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. - Well, at least you could have found the place where my name or yours is listed, if you were trying to show that this directive was for you or me.

Exodus 31:15
15 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death. - Well, at least you could have found the place where my name or yours is listed, if you were trying to show that this directive was for you or me.

Is the above clear to you BADecker?  Or you need to text your God to check the meaning of the above verses?  

Oh for the sake of clarity. The world for clarity.

So going by your BADlogic,

How do you know the rest of the Bible is for you? Your name is not in the Bible, why do you even read it?
It has not been addressed to you, why bother?

You are starting to catch my drift. Find out who the directives in the Bible are for before you start saying that it directs anybody to do anything.

Great, we agree.  Bible was written by the Bronze Age people FOR THE BRONZE AGE people.

It is irrelevant today.  Never mind the discussion of imaginary beings...influencing your life...etc.  Just go see the psychiatrist.
He might be able to help you with your imaginary friend obsession.

Great. We agree. The parts of the Bible that were written for the ancient Hebrew people, were written for them. And the parts that were written for us, were written for us.

Just go see the psychiatrist. He might be able to help you find a friend.

[BCEmporium]

Well, cherry-picking is so common with religions.
But to turn to the cold stone here, so they are becoming with atheists, specially those who like to support themselves on "science".
There are many things for which science has no answer whatsoever, the honest answer to those things is "we don't know", but on there comes the market of pseudo-science, mainly the so called "studies".
"A study says this", "a study says that"... this market of studies comes for all shapes and sizes, and many many collisions. So what does this new batch of hardcore atheists do? Exactly the same any religious people do: they cherry-pick the ones that second their personal belief and sideline (if not with violence) those who don't.

[darklus123]

I  really dont understand their agenda. Well basically sorry to tell but mosf if the atheist that i know are weirdo honestly I am not saying that all of them are but as ive said most of them that i know are. They were basing on studies ok name it what so ever. Yet those who believe in God most of them also are basing on studies and also called an expert. The only that i could not understand is that why are they talking so much about Christianity, why not just be quite and respect those who believes on the existence

[BCEmporium]

The only possible "respect" religious people can be entitled is to private practice, in short being stupid is a right, but in the moment they try to impose something on society based on their irrational God(s) they don't.

[BADecker]

The only possible "respect" religious people can be entitled is to private practice, in short being stupid is a right, but in the moment they try to impose something on society based on their irrational God(s) they don't.

And it is the atheism religion that suggests that there is no God. It doesn't suggest that there might be a God somewhere. It flatly and out-rightly suggests that there is no God.

Bold and ignorant people suggest the same. But anyone that has a fraction of realization about how frail people are, realizes that he absolutely can't know that God doesn't exist... even if he can't put his finger on where or how God exists.

Actually, all atheists understand this about God, way down deep. All their adamant crying about the stupidity of believing in God, exists only so that they can strengthen their stupidity in themselves. They know that they don't know if God exists or not. And they know that because of this atheism isn't what they believe in. Yet they try to believe in it. Why?

Why not rather try to find the truth and believe in it?

[Lancusters]

Atheists more pragmatic approach to faith. If the existence of God is not possible to prove, why believe in him. I don't understand the motives of believers. They also do not see evidence for the existence of God, then why believe in him?

[BADecker]

Atheists more pragmatic approach to faith. If the existence of God is not possible to prove, why believe in him. I don't understand the motives of believers. They also do not see evidence for the existence of God, then why believe in him?

If the existence of God is not possible to disprove, and you know it, why attempt to believe that He doesn't exist. Why not simply say "I don't know?"

Atheists might have a more pragmatic approach to faith. But they don't believe that God doesn't exist like they say that they believe. Rather, if they are honest people, they believe that they don't know if God exists or not... because they can't prove that He doesn't, and there are lots of places and opportunities for God TO exist.

Do you know for a fact that the precautions you take to remain healthy are going to work? No, not for sure. But you take them, anyway.

Do you know for a fact that God doesn't exist? Perhaps not. But it is totally unwise to disallow Him with something like atheism, when you know that you might be wrong, and might be winding up fighting against a being Who is way more powerful than you are.

If you think you know that God doesn't exist, prove it. Simple talk proves nothing. Adamant talk based on nothing is religion.

[Lieldoryn]

Atheists more pragmatic approach to faith. If the existence of God is not possible to prove, why believe in him. I don't understand the motives of believers. They also do not see evidence for the existence of God, then why believe in him?

If the existence of God is not possible to disprove, and you know it, why attempt to believe that He doesn't exist. Why not simply say "I don't know?"

Atheists might have a more pragmatic approach to faith. But they don't believe that God doesn't exist like they say that they believe. Rather, if they are honest people, they believe that they don't know if God exists or not... because they can't prove that He doesn't, and there are lots of places and opportunities for God TO exist.

Do you know for a fact that the precautions you take to remain healthy are going to work? No, not for sure. But you take them, anyway.

Do you know for a fact that God doesn't exist? Perhaps not. But it is totally unwise to disallow Him with something like atheism, when you know that you might be wrong, and might be winding up fighting against a being Who is way more powerful than you are.

If you think you know that God doesn't exist, prove it. Simple talk proves nothing. Adamant talk based on nothing is religion.

You are trying to find evidence to the contrary. You don't just believe in the existence of God you believe in that he is able to do something. But you have never seen examples of his work. So I guess it is not.

[BADecker]

Atheists more pragmatic approach to faith. If the existence of God is not possible to prove, why believe in him. I don't understand the motives of believers. They also do not see evidence for the existence of God, then why believe in him?

If the existence of God is not possible to disprove, and you know it, why attempt to believe that He doesn't exist. Why not simply say "I don't know?"

Atheists might have a more pragmatic approach to faith. But they don't believe that God doesn't exist like they say that they believe. Rather, if they are honest people, they believe that they don't know if God exists or not... because they can't prove that He doesn't, and there are lots of places and opportunities for God TO exist.

Do you know for a fact that the precautions you take to remain healthy are going to work? No, not for sure. But you take them, anyway.

Do you know for a fact that God doesn't exist? Perhaps not. But it is totally unwise to disallow Him with something like atheism, when you know that you might be wrong, and might be winding up fighting against a being Who is way more powerful than you are.

If you think you know that God doesn't exist, prove it. Simple talk proves nothing. Adamant talk based on nothing is religion.

You are trying to find evidence to the contrary. You don't just believe in the existence of God you believe in that he is able to do something. But you have never seen examples of his work. So I guess it is not.

Prove that God doesn't exist, then. Since you can't, He might exist. Atheism fails. People who say that they are atheists are only trying to be atheists. They aren't really. Of course, we can change the definition of atheism.