[Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED!

[prodigits7]

Thank you for finally publicly admitting it to everybody on here. Its official and duly noted.

What I owe Prodigits7:
-4 BTC for 8 KNCMiner Shares
-KnC BTC that he self-willingly refunded

May I remind everybody...in your own words

Quote from: ragingazn628 on September 20, 2013, 11:39:04 AM

"Again Prodigits7 will be in charge of refunds now. He will post to confirm this. He just emailed JohnK all the bank account info. "

[ragingazn628]

May I remind everybody...in your own words

Quote from: ragingazn628 on September 20, 2013, 11:39:04 AM

"Again Prodigits7 will be in charge of refunds now. He will post to confirm this. He just emailed JohnK all the bank account info. "

Yup that's before I finally opened up my eyes and see who you really are. Who knows what you were going to do with 10,000 Avalon Chips and $30,000+ KNC was going to wire into your account? I took action and refunded 98% of everyone and even used my own BTC on top of the KNC Miner refunds to refund the BTC people. Paypal was unfortunate because my account is frozen and there's nothing I can do about it now. I am waiting for John.K to refund my BTC so I can refund the Paypal people.

Did I tell you to refund those people?
No. You did it to try and put smoke and mirrors in my face so I wouldn't see the real you. You lied about having already refunded over 60+ BTC to people with YOUR OWN BTC. Then you tried to maneuver your way saying that the 60BTC was still in queue in coinbase until the KNC Wire transfer is completed so the BTC can be bought.

Again, I will say this one last time. You will get your refund when I get my refund from John.K. If I am responsible for the 2.6BTC for the Sample Chips then it will be deducted from you. Even though I am in no way legally responsible for the refunds that you self-willingly gave to some people, I will still refund that to you because it is the right thing to do. If you want to stay in the Mining Club and get shares from Week 1 and this upcoming payout then you can with out any deduction. Otherwise, I am done wasting my time and energy with you. I am tired of your constant harassment and idiotic threats. Please never post in my thread(s) again.

[eroxors]

There is no question who the more reliable party is here.

Ragingazn... scamming since 2006!

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1684647&highlight=ragingazn

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1660014

http://www.anetforums.com/posts.aspx?ThreadIndex=53414

http://z15.invisionfree.com/Game_Trading_Forum/index.php?showtopic=20

http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/members/9450-ragingazn628.html

Really makes you wonder about the value of his GB "shares"

[ragingazn628]

There is no question who the more reliable party is here.

Ragingazn... scamming since 2006!

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1684647&highlight=ragingazn

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1660014

http://www.anetforums.com/posts.aspx?ThreadIndex=53414

http://z15.invisionfree.com/Game_Trading_Forum/index.php?showtopic=20

http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/members/9450-ragingazn628.html

Really makes you wonder about the value of his GB "shares"

Believe what you want. Fact of the matter is: people got their refunds and payouts are being made regularly. Got the entire blockchain to back me up.

[2weiX]

There is no question who the more reliable party is here.

Ragingazn... scamming since 2006!

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1684647&highlight=ragingazn

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1660014

http://www.anetforums.com/posts.aspx?ThreadIndex=53414

http://z15.invisionfree.com/Game_Trading_Forum/index.php?showtopic=20

http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/members/9450-ragingazn628.html

Really makes you wonder about the value of his GB "shares"

Believe what you want. Fact of the matter is: people got their refunds and payouts are being made regularly. Got the entire blockchain to back me up.

Did you refund me yet?
I can't find most of my emails regarding this thing...

[Noitev]

May I remind everybody...in your own words

Quote from: ragingazn628 on September 20, 2013, 11:39:04 AM

"Again Prodigits7 will be in charge of refunds now. He will post to confirm this. He just emailed JohnK all the bank account info. "

Yup that's before I finally opened up my eyes and see who you really are. Who knows what you were going to do with 10,000 Avalon Chips and $30,000+ KNC was going to wire into your account? I took action and refunded 98% of everyone and even used my own BTC on top of the KNC Miner refunds to refund the BTC people. Paypal was unfortunate because my account is frozen and there's nothing I can do about it now. I am waiting for John.K to refund my BTC so I can refund the Paypal people.

Did I tell you to refund those people?
No. You did it to try and put smoke and mirrors in my face so I wouldn't see the real you. You lied about having already refunded over 60+ BTC to people with YOUR OWN BTC. Then you tried to maneuver your way saying that the 60BTC was still in queue in coinbase until the KNC Wire transfer is completed so the BTC can be bought.

Again, I will say this one last time. You will get your refund when I get my refund from John.K. If I am responsible for the 2.6BTC for the Sample Chips then it will be deducted from you. Even though I am in no way legally responsible for the refunds that you self-willingly gave to some people, I will still refund that to you because it is the right thing to do. If you want to stay in the Mining Club and get shares from Week 1 and this upcoming payout then you can with out any deduction. Otherwise, I am done wasting my time and energy with you. I am tired of your constant harassment and idiotic threats. Please never post in my thread(s) again.

So, you aren't refunding him money he paid out of his own pocket because you "Think" he was going to stela the avaln chips and 30k? Your entire argument is based on an assumption. How does giving people BTC help prodigits get anything? I can't say I trust you if you get a refund from john k. to give it to prodigits. the 2.6 btc of chips you're charging him for (which before you "graciously" said you'd pay to the group here) are still unused and no profit was gained from them. Is it so hard to beleive that prodigits wanted to refund some people to relieve tension while you were gone? All he is asking for is the amount he refunded and he will ship the chips back to you, still in the condition you gave them to him. He can prove the amounts he refunded. If you think you deserve those btc off of a bunch of assumptions, not only are they not your bitcoins, but you are mistaken since the people prodigits refunded have come forward.

Can you also give me a reason why you have been keeping mining profits that other people paid for, other than "I think he's a scumbag so I'm keeping them on principal?"

[damiano]

I'm here to let all the group members and those of the KnCMiner's group buy know that ragingazn628 is holding 11.6BTC that belongs to me and refuses to give them back. He has kept all those shares that I personally refunded to people, all for himself, as well as the 8 shares (4BTC) which I originally put in. He has left me out of it entirely and has not informed any of the other group members of what he did to me or how he continues to pocket my share of the profits.

in total, he owes me 11.6BTC from the entire KnCMiners Group Buy situation which I went I stuck my neck out for him and defended him and was his apologist. I started refunding group buy members with my own bitcoins, only because Ragingazn628 assured me that he would reimburse me once the actual KncMiner refund came through. I would never have done it otherwise. When the refund finally came through, he turned his back on me and refused to return the BTC that I had handed out to people.

JohnK was a witness to all this because I made sure to include you and inform you every step of the way. He was sent PM, Skype and GChat messages by me and ragingazn628 together. Now ragin's trying to screw me by not paying me back. Others that can vouch for me are Noitev and glendall and the actual people that I personally refunded including , damiano, piecinitup, floatyfish, danieldaniel, jesse11. You will see some of these people post on here to back up my story.

You all saw how MUCH I went out of my way to help him when he was depressed and at his lowest point. Yes its true that he gave me the sample chips, which were never actually used, to help his NEO-ASICs business venture. He had asked me to build him Klondike-16 and Avalon clones so he could sell to people through his site. After he got the refund from KnCMiner, he shut down the site (for a second time) changed his avatar and completely ignored the entire business. I still have the chips and offered to send them back to him.

I'm hoping with all your help, that I can get some justice in this situation and get back the BTC that is owed to me by Ragingazn628.

In regard to ragingazn's personal refunds, I am still holding to that due to emails I have obtained from prodigits7. I will not post his email directly, but I ask that he show up in this thread to clarify his claims against ragingazn here.

Everyone else with an address should be refunded here, otherwise please PM me so that I can clear that up.

Just want to say that prodigits refunded me with his own BTC. 

[prodigits7]

I'm here to let all the group members and those of the KnCMiner's group buy know that ragingazn628 is holding 11.6BTC that belongs to me and refuses to give them back. He has kept all those shares that I personally refunded to people, all for himself, as well as the 8 shares (4BTC) which I originally put in. He has left me out of it entirely and has not informed any of the other group members of what he did to me or how he continues to pocket my share of the profits.

in total, he owes me 11.6BTC from the entire KnCMiners Group Buy situation which I went I stuck my neck out for him and defended him and was his apologist. I started refunding group buy members with my own bitcoins, only because Ragingazn628 assured me that he would reimburse me once the actual KncMiner refund came through. I would never have done it otherwise. When the refund finally came through, he turned his back on me and refused to return the BTC that I had handed out to people.

JohnK was a witness to all this because I made sure to include you and inform you every step of the way. He was sent PM, Skype and GChat messages by me and ragingazn628 together. Now ragin's trying to screw me by not paying me back. Others that can vouch for me are Noitev and glendall and the actual people that I personally refunded including , damiano, piecinitup, floatyfish, danieldaniel, jesse11. You will see some of these people post on here to back up my story.

You all saw how MUCH I went out of my way to help him when he was depressed and at his lowest point. Yes its true that he gave me the sample chips, which were never actually used, to help his NEO-ASICs business venture. He had asked me to build him Klondike-16 and Avalon clones so he could sell to people through his site. After he got the refund from KnCMiner, he shut down the site (for a second time) changed his avatar and completely ignored the entire business. I still have the chips and offered to send them back to him.

I'm hoping with all your help, that I can get some justice in this situation and get back the BTC that is owed to me by Ragingazn628.

In regard to ragingazn's personal refunds, I am still holding to that due to emails I have obtained from prodigits7. I will not post his email directly, but I ask that he show up in this thread to clarify his claims against ragingazn here.

Everyone else with an address should be refunded here, otherwise please PM me so that I can clear that up.

Just want to say that prodigits refunded me with his own BTC. 

Thank you damiano and others for stepping up in support and speaking the truth.

[nebiz]

Awesome! refund received, thanks Johnk. Farewell all it's been an...experience.

No problems - the delay for the past month is certainly my fault here.

Hi John, I know we all have busy times, but could you please tie up your obligations here?  I am still waiting for a refund and there are no special cases associated with my payment.  Please send my refund to the address in my signature.

edit: here is the exact amount of my payment - 1.25050000 BTC. (less 1%) - final refund amount: 1.237995 BTC.

Please note that I paid from a Mt. Gox address, be sure not to refund to the address that I sent from, this is verifiable in the blockchain.

[ZeroPAiN]

Refund Address Update:

The following users still haven't PM'd or posted a return address:

Code:

456191
alle.sello
AmpEater
Hiroaki
nebiz
tromacca' *not real nick*
ZeroPAiN

I don't know who tromacca is (because that's not the real nick) so I'm going to assume that this person doesn't want to be known.  I'd urge you to PM John K directly.

...........

I saw this, where do I post a return address? I PM'd it to bigbeninlondon to his refund form, but it doesn't appear on there:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApT7WUJuJCwMdEhFX2UxbF9Nd0xydmhnUUJiZVBLVlE&usp=drive_web#gid=3

Here is another one for me generated by coinbase:

18bZvp6csugSMce4NNmWfu2EZ7c4Jzy6d1

[ZeroPAiN]

Refund Address Update:

The following users still haven't PM'd or posted a return address:

Code:

456191
alle.sello
AmpEater
Hiroaki
nebiz
tromacca' *not real nick*
ZeroPAiN

I don't know who tromacca is (because that's not the real nick) so I'm going to assume that this person doesn't want to be known.  I'd urge you to PM John K directly.

...........

I saw this, where do I post a return address? I PM'd it to bigbeninlondon to his refund form, but it doesn't appear on there:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApT7WUJuJCwMdEhFX2UxbF9Nd0xydmhnUUJiZVBLVlE&usp=drive_web#gid=3

Here is another one for me generated by coinbase:

18bZvp6csugSMce4NNmWfu2EZ7c4Jzy6d1

Ah he fixed it.
Also, it wasn't bigbeninlondon's form, it was RaginAzn628's, my bad.

Thanks

[John (John K.)]

Refund sent for dmo520 via my own funds : https://blockchain.info/tx/2b242adda804bf9cb3c475c7a86d8b416f04e7912c23daec228298fe6bd6a99d

Sorting out the prodigits - ragingazn mess in a moment.

[prodigits7]

Refund sent for dmo520 via my own funds : https://blockchain.info/tx/2b242adda804bf9cb3c475c7a86d8b416f04e7912c23daec228298fe6bd6a99d

Sorting out the prodigits - ragingazn mess in a moment.

Thanks JohnK, much appreciated as always.

[John (John K.)]

Refund 7 processed (with everyone who've posted above) : https://blockchain.info/tx/95cd844411b56d903316a189629c3b4313fd06cc6614301096692c8fd32aa82f

Please post here if you're still not refunded. (as you're not in either spreadsheet which I've already refunded)


I have refunded prodigits 4 btc in place of ragingazn628 for the shares he admitted above, the rest of the claims will come when an agreement is reached/we figure out who's right and wrong here.

[John (John K.)]

Ragingazn628, how much do you confirm that prodigits7 have paid in place for you as your refunds? Please note that I will delay the refund to you before the situation is sorted out here as I have no way of knowing exactly how much you owe to them right now.

[John (John K.)]

Ragingazn628, do you confirm that prodigits7 has refunded the following in place for you here?

Refunded BTC3.5 to damiano
Refunded BTC2.0 to piecinitup
Refunded BTC1.05 to floatyfish
Refunded BTC0.55 to danieldaniel
Refunded BTC0.50 to jesse11

[zamazama]

Ragingazn628, do you confirm that prodigits7 has refunded the following in place for you here?

Refunded BTC3.5 to damiano
Refunded BTC2.0 to piecinitup
Refunded BTC1.05 to floatyfish
Refunded BTC0.55 to danieldaniel
Refunded BTC0.50 to jesse11

John .. I bought chips off people .. are you still to do those refunds??

[John (John K.)]

Ragingazn628, do you confirm that prodigits7 has refunded the following in place for you here?

Refunded BTC3.5 to damiano
Refunded BTC2.0 to piecinitup
Refunded BTC1.05 to floatyfish
Refunded BTC0.55 to danieldaniel
Refunded BTC0.50 to jesse11

John .. I bought chips off people .. are you still to do those refunds??

Who, and when did you buy the chips off?

[zamazama]

Ragingazn628, do you confirm that prodigits7 has refunded the following in place for you here?

Refunded BTC3.5 to damiano
Refunded BTC2.0 to piecinitup
Refunded BTC1.05 to floatyfish
Refunded BTC0.55 to danieldaniel
Refunded BTC0.50 to jesse11

John .. I bought chips off people .. are you still to do those refunds??

Who, and when did you buy the chips off?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.msg2628457#msg2628457

[bigbeninlondon]

Ragingazn628, do you confirm that prodigits7 has refunded the following in place for you here?

Refunded BTC3.5 to damiano
Refunded BTC2.0 to piecinitup
Refunded BTC1.05 to floatyfish
Refunded BTC0.55 to danieldaniel
Refunded BTC0.50 to jesse11

John .. I bought chips off people .. are you still to do those refunds??

Who, and when did you buy the chips off?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.msg2628457#msg2628457

Also documented in my spreadsheet and amount confirmed.  Both Lailoken and zamazama totals reflect this trade in the "Refunds" sheet and the "Original Data" sheet.