williamj2543
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September 12, 2014, 12:29:58 PM |
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What's the problem if people are running a ponzi if they're being upfront about it?
The problem is that ponzis are fraud, as you know you won't be able to pay everyone. Well, as long as you have new investors you will have new funds to pay old investors, and the cycle keeps going, but the payments take longer and longer as it gets more investors, so eventually it will crash.
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Timetwister
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September 12, 2014, 12:30:55 PM |
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What's the problem if people are running a ponzi if they're being upfront about it?
The problem is that ponzis are fraud, as you know you won't be able to pay everyone. A casino cannot pay everyone and is not a fraud; ponzis are illegal because they fail and they are very deceitful A casino should be able to cover any bet. Someone running a ponzi scheme knows that he won't be able to pay the suckers unless there are new suckers (which will be scammed unless even more suckers appear).
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williamj2543
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September 12, 2014, 12:32:15 PM |
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What's the problem if people are running a ponzi if they're being upfront about it?
The problem is that ponzis are fraud, as you know you won't be able to pay everyone. A casino cannot pay everyone and is not a fraud; ponzis are illegal because they fail and they are very deceitful A casino should be able to cover any bet. Someone running a ponzi scheme knows that he won't be able to pay the suckers unless there are new suckers (which will be scammed unless even more suckers appear). Yes, the max bet is set about 10x smaller than the entire house, usually even smaller to make sure that one very lucky guy can't wipe out the entire house's funds.
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pawel7777
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September 12, 2014, 12:46:15 PM Last edit: September 12, 2014, 01:57:25 PM by pawel7777 |
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2 spots needed for the FortuneJack campaign to start (senior or above). Total 12 available. Any takers? They pay up-front https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=778902.0Edit: 1 more needed to start: One more participant and we will send out first weeks payment upfront to those who already put our signature.
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KimNam
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September 12, 2014, 04:05:35 PM |
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slow but sure, many new signature campaigns require sr.member level to participate is it because too many new member & full member already? lol, is this allowed to make campaign like that? sadly their rate is so low ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) i'm curious see what happen next ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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SOAD
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September 12, 2014, 04:15:30 PM |
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slow but sure, many new signature campaigns require sr.member level to participate is it because too many new member & full member already? lol, is this allowed to make campaign like that? sadly their rate is so low ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) i'm curious see what happen next ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Can't see why it wouldn't but they could get in legal trouble for slander if they haven't got any evidence.
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redsn0w
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September 12, 2014, 04:16:38 PM |
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slow but sure, many new signature campaigns require sr.member level to participate is it because too many new member & full member already? lol, is this allowed to make campaign like that? sadly their rate is so low ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) i'm curious see what happen next ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Yes it is allowed , why not ?
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ACCTseller
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September 12, 2014, 04:35:31 PM |
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It looks like the OP deleted their post. I guess the campaign was not legit. They also were planning on paying very little.
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pawel7777
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September 12, 2014, 06:37:11 PM |
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Payments from FortuneJack now confirmed. See the campaign thread
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redsn0w
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September 12, 2014, 06:45:26 PM |
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Payments from FortuneJack now confirmed. See the campaign thread
Yes me too, I've received the payment ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) .
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September 12, 2014, 06:49:26 PM |
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let it be known that i tried keeping the dicebitco.in sig as long as i could, but yeah, i can't keep the sig any longer.
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saif92
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September 12, 2014, 06:53:13 PM |
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It looks like the OP deleted their post. I guess the campaign was not legit. They also were planning on paying very little. Yes hilariousandco was right not sure they are serious or no its just try to take some intention but they fail and run away in start
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Mitchell
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September 12, 2014, 06:53:51 PM |
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Payments from FortuneJack now confirmed. See the campaign thread
I have moved them to Active. Thank you for telling me!
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hilariousandco
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September 12, 2014, 07:21:00 PM |
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Just made the payout for EdenDice but the campaign will now be closed until further notice. Hopefully it'll be back up and running very soon though.
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williamj2543
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September 12, 2014, 08:31:28 PM |
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Withdrew my payment from cryptcominer's sig campaign and everything went smoothly, got my tx, fee paid for by them.
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September 12, 2014, 08:35:34 PM |
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so now I'm Hero, but don't find a good campain ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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boumalo
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September 12, 2014, 08:48:47 PM |
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so now I'm Hero, but don't find a good campain ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) How much do you get from your signature with the present advertisement? PD is CLFNP closed for new participants, the list should be updated
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September 12, 2014, 08:52:54 PM |
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so now I'm Hero, but don't find a good campain ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) How much do you get from your signature with the present advertisement? PD is CLFNP closed for new participants, the list should be updated it's a referal only.....up to today I made about $3 total with it hahahahah
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Mitchell
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September 12, 2014, 08:54:09 PM |
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so now I'm Hero, but don't find a good campain ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) How much do you get from your signature with the present advertisement? PD is CLFNP closed for new participants, the list should be updated Didn't you read the last page/this page? It's still open for some ranks and thus stays in the Active section.
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