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Question: Sept. 21 Closing Price:
$0 - 3 (2.9%)
<$8,000 - 5 (4.9%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 1 (1%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 2 (1.9%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 5 (4.9%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 6 (5.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 22 (21.4%)
$10,500-$11,000 - 20 (19.4%)
$11,000-$11,500 - 19 (18.4%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 6 (5.8%)
>$12,000 - 8 (7.8%)
>$20,000 - 6 (5.8%)
Total Voters: 103

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June 08, 2013, 07:40:36 PM
Last edit: June 08, 2013, 08:13:26 PM by KS
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Ok , I won't get it and I refuse to undestrand why bitcoin price has to go down in order to bounce back to 110+.

Second. I refuse to undestand how some of you can preach is a store of value when you expect it's value to halve in one- two weeks time.


Because "store of value" doesn't mean "get rich quick". Two weeks, three months mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Just think that 1btc was worth $0.079 in may 2010, $2 in November 2011 and $10ish in 2012.

If we close 2013 at $40ish, BTC will have worked as an excellent store of value for me. It's the best I know. If you don't see it, then you are just short sighted. Maybe you wish to buy today at $100 and sell at $200 in one months. Well, wake up. That's not how it works. Stores of value are for the long term, especially if they are commodity like and thus prone to volatility and manipulation.

Just zoom out and look at the big picture, guys. Really why are you interested in BTC? For the quick easy buck?

Ah, now i finally understand your attitude. It's all about you. Just because you bought quite cheap everybody who didn't still has to understand how it's amazingly good it is if Bitcoin ends this year at 40 bucks. And if we don't see it we are short sighted.



No, it's not "about me", if this was "only about me" I could be bitter and angry because my "btc value" decreased by 50% since April, 10th.

Just do not expect btc to always go up in both mid and short term, especially not after a bubble burst. Because is nonsense. Night is dark, there's no surprise and is expected. On the contrary, expect BTC to go UP in the long term (years) - as it always did.

There's nothing to worry about, really. Bubbles need to burst all the way down.

To manipulate your numbers a bit, the trend from 2010 to 2013 could mean a 25$ BTC in 2013.

0.079   x 20   x 5      x 1.25 ≃ 25$
2010    2011  2012   2013

It probably has a worse reliability than the back'o napkin analysis but you can make it fit the 1.42% growth "theory" (or sth %)

edit: you obviously need to tweak the initial value and timing for the multipliers, but...
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June 08, 2013, 07:53:06 PM
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https://www.tradingview.com/e/?clone=c5CZeJOb
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June 08, 2013, 08:06:13 PM
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Wonder if this is real.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1fxumb/anyone_else_get_this_email_from_gox_this_is/
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June 08, 2013, 08:11:54 PM
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Fake ... as the last poster points out the 'email' is dated Saturday 9th June 2013 ... today is Saturday 8th June
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June 08, 2013, 08:12:53 PM
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Fake ... as the last poster points out it is dated Saturday 9th June 2013 ... today is Saturday 8th June

And IP address can't contain "523" (255 max)
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June 08, 2013, 08:14:25 PM
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Beginner level FUD. No worries though, cheaper coins for those who didn't fall for it. It was only a day ago that someone posted a PDF that MTGox would be ramping up with a new engine and accepting LTC.
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June 08, 2013, 08:14:26 PM
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Do you really need to wonder about such a poorly executed hoax ?
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June 08, 2013, 08:16:11 PM
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So are we back in rally mode then  Cheesy
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June 08, 2013, 08:20:11 PM
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Fake ... as the last poster points out the 'email' is dated Saturday 9th June 2013 ... today is Saturday 8th June

Ok thanks
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June 08, 2013, 08:20:40 PM
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Yes.
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June 08, 2013, 08:24:28 PM
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I agree with Rampion. When you look at the registration date of all those crying about manipulators or that Bitcoin will "die" when it goes back to more sustainable price levels, you'll see that usually they came on board March 2013 or so. Again, look up a price chart of 2011. It went from 32 to 2.

Having seen actual manipulation in the Bitcoin market with 30-50k bid/ask walls, I can tell you that it's probably the least manipulated it ever was because it has grown so large, and actually most of the times, large orders aren't fake and are filled.

Very moderate.

Of course, that's not to say folk who haven't been here as long can't have a (good) opinion, or that registration date necessarily corresponds closely with duration of bitcoin awareness. But, I agree about the price drop!
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June 08, 2013, 08:44:16 PM
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Somebody is playing a wall game over at btc-e first it was a buywall at 109 now its an askwall at the same place.
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June 08, 2013, 08:50:52 PM
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Somebody is playing a wall game over at btc-e first it was a buywall at 109 now its an askwall at the same place.

Ha! that's brilliant, seems like there should be a bouncing white dot going between the two walls!
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June 08, 2013, 08:53:18 PM
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Somebody is playing a wall game over at btc-e first it was a buywall at 109 now its an askwall at the same place.

Ha! that's brilliant, seems like there should be a bouncing white dot going between the two walls!

No the previous one was sold into and partly removed.
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June 08, 2013, 09:03:19 PM
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guys, I'm a noob, where do you see these walls and stuff? thx

http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/

Welcome Tycoon! Congratulations on finding one of the most effective hedges against world financial collapse! The more the merrier! Smiley

thx, but pls explain what are those columns? what is the "sum" column.
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June 08, 2013, 09:05:11 PM
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guys, I'm a noob, where do you see these walls and stuff? thx

http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/

Welcome Tycoon! Congratulations on finding one of the most effective hedges against world financial collapse! The more the merrier! Smiley

thx, but pls explain what is those columns? what is the "sum" column.

0.2   0.1524   109.08001
29.0   28.8592   109.07000   sum = 28.8592 + 0.1524 (the previous one)
29.1   0.1000   109.06900   sum is 0.1000 +previous sum
29.6   0.5000   109.05060    ...
30.6   0.9758   109.00001
30.7   0.1000   108.95

bid= what someone is willing to pay  for a bitcoin
ask = what someone is asking for  bitcoin
volume = how many bitcions

sum(bitcoin)    volume(bitcoin)      bid($)
29.0                28.8592                 109.07000

this means someone is willing to buy ..28.8592 bitcoins  at a price of 109.07$/bitcoin   
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June 08, 2013, 09:05:51 PM
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Somebody is playing a wall game over at btc-e first it was a buywall at 109 now its an askwall at the same place.

Ha! that's brilliant, seems like there should be a bouncing white dot going between the two walls!

No the previous one was sold into and partly removed.

I guess it's the delay or something:

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June 08, 2013, 09:20:34 PM
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It seems like everyone of "this time its different" preachers left. Sad times.
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June 08, 2013, 09:37:40 PM
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It seems like everyone of "this time its different" preachers left. Sad times.

Not gone, just quiet. Volume comes with something to point to.
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