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June 09, 2013, 09:24:56 AM
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The fact that the dumper picked the slowest time of the week for bitcoin, screams manipulation.  All the bulls that want to hold up the price, but are still looking for cheap coins, aren't around right now, which is why the slow rebound.

The weekend dip is back, meaning manipulation is overpowering users/speculators.

This whole downward movement started last Sat/Sun and I mentioned the same thing. Most people said it wasn't true, but here again it happens.

This whole down movement started in April just after we hit $266, it's still playing out and it's not over yet.

Yes, in the bigger picture, but to get something to start moving, you can manipulate easier (up or down) on a weekend.
Look at the chart, last Sat/Sun started things and then it slowly kept going.
Again, here we are on Sunday and someone decides to sell lots. Why? Why do it on a low volume day when many are not trading?
It is not a conspiracy, nothing crazy, just pretty matter of fact. If you have lots of coins, you DON'T try to sell them on a weekend.
BTC is so emotionally driven, and has such low float, she over reacts in these areas...
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June 09, 2013, 09:27:38 AM
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Bottom hit?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1986074/btt/bottom-hit.png
( chart from: http://bitcoin.stoto.net/ )
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June 09, 2013, 09:29:35 AM
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and why roubles in a wallet?  Huh

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June 09, 2013, 09:31:22 AM
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Bottom hit?


( chart from: http://bitcoin.stoto.net/ )

Nope, US still sleeps sweet of innocet.
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June 09, 2013, 09:33:00 AM
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Bottom hit?


( chart from: http://bitcoin.stoto.net/ )

Looks like the dumping is over. We will be around this level till next sunday. Then we'll have another 20k dump and a price drop to 70.
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June 09, 2013, 09:33:42 AM
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The fact that the dumper picked the slowest time of the week for bitcoin, screams manipulation.  All the bulls that want to hold up the price, but are still looking for cheap coins, aren't around right now, which is why the slow rebound.

The weekend dip is back, meaning manipulation is overpowering users/speculators.

So you reckon there will be a rally/rebound when the US wakes up? I'm increasingly pessimistic about worthwhile rebounds happening. It's my impression that since the consensus has become more overwhelming that it will drop allot farther, rebounds are getting smaller, even when the US is awake.
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June 09, 2013, 09:34:14 AM
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I see a couple smart ones are dumping BTC for XRP while they can.  Markets havent had a chance to react.   This night just keeps getting better.  Grin

EDIT:  Bitpirate, don't cry.  It's embarrassing.   Cry  Take it like a man.  


Uh oh, the alter ego is back! LOL
How can you seriously even mention BTC with a float of 11 million being traded into XRP with a float of how many billions? And on is owned by us the people, and the other by a company mostly. Seriously, that is crazy.
The only way I could imagine that being remotely possible is if someone didn't want to pay capital gains and put it into XRP to hold and then roll back into BTC. But that would be taking a HUGE chance.

The fact you even have the gall to talk to me after witnessing my guarantee unfold in your face, shows your delusions run far deeper than your intellect.  Did you think I forgot?  Did you think your buddy, buddy routine was not transparent as glass, as the inevitable was on the horizon?  You have no credibility left.  This is the remaining fig leave that clears up, I am mostly right and you are mostly wrong.  Please stop trying to educate people.  You're hurting humanity.

Well, I guess it goes to show you where you heart is. I honestly was trying to be open to you - I don't hold grudges. I was keeping an eye on you yes, as I didn't trust you due to how you talk to people. Which, you are once again showing right now. I don't get that form of communication. The world doesn't need "I told you so" people, it needs people from the heart.

You think this is about "I'm right" to me? IF there is one thing you should have noticed about me, is that I'm not in it for the money (foremost), I'm in it cause I believe in Bitcoin. That is why you can't talk about "in your face" with me. It is all a reflection of how you see me, not how I see you. It is a reflection of how you see others on the forum. You have been guaranteeing down, almost non stop except for the alter ego 3 week or so period lately, so please, stop with the self aggrandizement.

So, in the future if and when bitcoin is at a high valuation, perhaps you will be rich from trading in and out. Congratulations to you in advance. You go and buy yourself what you desire, I will use a large part of my profits to roll back into things that help mankind and not just "things" for me. I'd still help you out if I could as I don't hold grudges, but I now I (we here) see we just can't trust you to be a human being and that is not being strong worded, that is being observational.

Congratulations on being what you are. It does feel good, doesn't it?  Embarrassed



Lots of love...

edit - Just realized, you never even answered my question about XRP...
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June 09, 2013, 09:34:31 AM
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By the way, all this "let's wait to the US to wake up is nonsense". Most of the time, when the US wakes up after a crash, nothing more happens. Do you remember last Sunday? Same songs were singed.
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June 09, 2013, 09:35:47 AM
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Bottom hit?


( chart from: http://bitcoin.stoto.net/ )

Looks like the dumping is over. We will be around this level till next sunday. Then we'll have another 20k dump and a price drop to 70.

on your planet, do they look like the doggybird on your picture?
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June 09, 2013, 09:37:53 AM
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I see a couple smart ones are dumping BTC for XRP while they can.  Markets havent had a chance to react.   This night just keeps getting better.  Grin

EDIT:  Bitpirate, don't cry.  It's embarrassing.   Cry  Take it like a man.  


Uh oh, the alter ego is back! LOL
How can you seriously even mention BTC with a float of 11 million being traded into XRP with a float of how many billions? And on is owned by us the people, and the other by a company mostly. Seriously, that is crazy.
The only way I could imagine that being remotely possible is if someone didn't want to pay capital gains and put it into XRP to hold and then roll back into BTC. But that would be taking a HUGE chance.

The fact you even have the gall to talk to me after witnessing my guarantee unfold in your face, shows your delusions run far deeper than your intellect.  Did you think I forgot?  Did you think your buddy, buddy routine was not transparent as glass, as the inevitable was on the horizon?  You have no credibility left.  This is the remaining fig leave that clears up, I am mostly right and you are mostly wrong.  Please stop trying to educate people.  You're hurting humanity.

Well, I guess it goes to show you where you heart is. I honestly was trying to be open to you - I don't hold grudges. I was keeping an eye on you yes, as I didn't trust you due to how you talk to people. Which, you are once again showing right now. I don't get that form of communication. The world doesn't need "I told you so" people, it needs people from the heart.

You think this is about "I'm right" to me? IF there is one thing you should have noticed about me, is that I'm not in it for the money (foremost), I'm in it cause I believe in Bitcoin. That is why you can't talk about "in your face" with me. It is all a reflection of how you see me, not how I see you. It is a reflection of how you see others on the forum. You have been guaranteeing down, almost non stop except for the alter ego 3 week or so period lately, so please, stop with the self aggrandizement.

So, in the future if and when bitcoin is at a high valuation, perhaps you will be rich from trading in and out. Congratulations to you in advance. You go and buy yourself what you desire, I will use a large part of my profits to roll back into things that help mankind and not just "things" for me. I'd still help you out if I could as I don't hold grudges, but I now I (we here) see we just can't trust you to be a human being and that is not being strong worded, that is being observational.

Congratulations on being what you are. It does feel good, doesn't it?  Embarrassed



Lots of love...

At the end of the day there are those of us who are invested in Bitcoin -- not only in terms of money, but also time and effort. Then there are people along for the free ride. But the sort with no hope are people like coinseeker, who really just seem to be here to troll. He must value his time the least of any of us.
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June 09, 2013, 09:40:39 AM
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At the end of the day there are those of us who are invested in Bitcoin -- not only in terms of money, but also time and effort. Then there are people along for the free ride. But the sort with no hope are people like coinseeker, who really just seem to be here to troll. He must value his time the least of any of us.
Ride's not free, successful speculating/investing over the long term takes hard work, time and discipline. And most importantly, balls. Grin
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June 09, 2013, 09:41:13 AM
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The fact that the dumper picked the slowest time of the week for bitcoin, screams manipulation.  All the bulls that want to hold up the price, but are still looking for cheap coins, aren't around right now, which is why the slow rebound.

The weekend dip is back, meaning manipulation is overpowering users/speculators.

So you reckon there will be a rally/rebound when the US wakes up? I'm increasingly pessimistic about worthwhile rebounds happening. It's my impression that since the consensus has become more overwhelming that it will drop allot farther, rebounds are getting smaller, even when the US is awake.

I don't know about a rebound. This seems like self fulfilling prophecy to me. I almost sold last week, just some of mine, but decided just to hold and buy more if we dip down to the 50 range. That, to me, is the absolute bottom, but anything can happen with Bitcoin. Good news can come out on the fall down (e.g. - pay pal becomes a BTC exchange) and we continue the ascent upwards. Not saying that will happen though!

It is kind of a weird realization, that you only "lose" when you sell. I have a loose plan to accrue so many coins and I could have been there had I traded in and out, but I didn't want to risk missing a move. Well, it will cost me more in the end, yes, but if I still end up with what I want (a very very small amount btw), what is the difference? (I guess I will have less money for vacation.  Shocked  Grin )

Anyway, I think as the infrastructure is built for BTC, we will see transparent adoption AND "hoarding" as a savings account of sorts. We already saw some of the second and once that first part starts happening as well, then that is the acceptance part that we need, as hey, we are right now an internet thing.
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June 09, 2013, 09:41:44 AM
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Congratulations on being what you are. It does feel good, doesn't it?  Embarrassed


It feels great, when logic and rational thinking trump, the ideological ignorance, that dominates this forum.  It feels great to shove it in your face and everyone on this board who's had something stupid to say, repeating the same BS, that defied common sense and reason.  I relish this moment.  Will any of you wake up and accept you're living in a dream world of delusions?  Probably not.  But at least you and I know...man to man...your ideology and your rhetoric is crap.

My job is done here.
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June 09, 2013, 09:44:45 AM
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Up up up...  Grin
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June 09, 2013, 09:45:03 AM
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It's my impression that since the consensus has become more overwhelming that it will drop allot farther, rebounds are getting smaller, even when the US is awake.

The consensus of a dozen people milling and fretting around this little watering-hole. As if the market would take any notice...
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June 09, 2013, 09:46:05 AM
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... at least we're still able to make money from weak hands.  Smiley 
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June 09, 2013, 09:46:25 AM
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The fact that the dumper picked the slowest time of the week for bitcoin, screams manipulation.  All the bulls that want to hold up the price, but are still looking for cheap coins, aren't around right now, which is why the slow rebound.

The weekend dip is back, meaning manipulation is overpowering users/speculators.

So you reckon there will be a rally/rebound when the US wakes up? I'm increasingly pessimistic about worthwhile rebounds happening. It's my impression that since the consensus has become more overwhelming that it will drop allot farther, rebounds are getting smaller, even when the US is awake.

I don't know about a rebound. This seems like self fulfilling prophecy to me. I almost sold last week, just some of mine, but decided just to hold and buy more if we dip down to the 50 range. That, to me, is the absolute bottom, but anything can happen with Bitcoin. Good news can come out on the fall down (e.g. - pay pal becomes a BTC exchange) and we continue the ascent upwards. Not saying that will happen though!

It is kind of a weird realization, that you only "lose" when you sell. I have a loose plan to accrue so many coins and I could have been there had I traded in and out, but I didn't want to risk missing a move. Well, it will cost me more in the end, yes, but if I still end up with what I want (a very very small amount btw), what is the difference? (I guess I will have less money for vacation.  Shocked  Grin )

Anyway, I think as the infrastructure is built for BTC, we will see transparent adoption AND "hoarding" as a savings account of sorts. We already saw some of the second and once that first part starts happening as well, then that is the acceptance part that we need, as hey, we are right now an internet thing.

Oh well. I bought at 93 and sold around bitstamp's rebound top of 95.2, and am now kicking myself
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Congratulations on being what you are. It does feel good, doesn't it?  Embarrassed


It feels great, when logic and rational thinking trump, the ideological ignorance, that dominates this forum.  It feels great to shove it in your face and everyone on this board who's had something stupid to say, repeating the same BS, that defied common sense and reason.  I relish this moment.  Will any of you wake up and accept you're living in a dream world of delusions?  Probably not.  But at least you and I know...man to man...your ideology and your rhetoric is crap.

My job is done here.

What about heart? I guess if you are just in it for the money, you don't care about that. I put heart first, which is why I honesty tried giving you the benefit of the doubt. And what did you do? You accused me of being what you are and then attacked me when I asked a question...

You don't even reply to what I asked you about XRP, you just attacked me. You just again didn't reply to my points, you just attacked me.
You are trying to win these "war of words" on the forum and all the while are missing the bigger picture.
I'm not here to win arguments, not even really to make money, but to be a part of something special.
I can see that is the farthest thing from you mind, along with heart.  Cry
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June 09, 2013, 09:48:41 AM
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The fact that the dumper picked the slowest time of the week for bitcoin, screams manipulation.  All the bulls that want to hold up the price, but are still looking for cheap coins, aren't around right now, which is why the slow rebound.

The weekend dip is back, meaning manipulation is overpowering users/speculators.

So you reckon there will be a rally/rebound when the US wakes up? I'm increasingly pessimistic about worthwhile rebounds happening. It's my impression that since the consensus has become more overwhelming that it will drop allot farther, rebounds are getting smaller, even when the US is awake.

I don't know about a rebound. This seems like self fulfilling prophecy to me. I almost sold last week, just some of mine, but decided just to hold and buy more if we dip down to the 50 range. That, to me, is the absolute bottom, but anything can happen with Bitcoin. Good news can come out on the fall down (e.g. - pay pal becomes a BTC exchange) and we continue the ascent upwards. Not saying that will happen though!

It is kind of a weird realization, that you only "lose" when you sell. I have a loose plan to accrue so many coins and I could have been there had I traded in and out, but I didn't want to risk missing a move. Well, it will cost me more in the end, yes, but if I still end up with what I want (a very very small amount btw), what is the difference? (I guess I will have less money for vacation.  Shocked  Grin )

Anyway, I think as the infrastructure is built for BTC, we will see transparent adoption AND "hoarding" as a savings account of sorts. We already saw some of the second and once that first part starts happening as well, then that is the acceptance part that we need, as hey, we are right now an internet thing.

Oh well. I bought at 93 and sold around bitstamp's rebound top of 95.2, and am now kicking myself
It is difficult to predict tops and bottoms so you might feel happy in few minutes. Should remove feelings from trading.
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June 09, 2013, 09:49:14 AM
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At the end of the day there are those of us who are invested in Bitcoin -- not only in terms of money, but also time and effort. Then there are people along for the free ride. But the sort with no hope are people like coinseeker, who really just seem to be here to troll. He must value his time the least of any of us.
Ride's not free, successful speculating/investing over the long term takes hard work, time and discipline. And most importantly, balls. Grin

Amen!  Couldn't have said it better.
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