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[bitgeek]

Nibbling back up to 250..

Situation from the 28th all over again

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[wpalczynski]

Thanks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274613.0

Link please?

This is known as the trolling thread.  No one comes here for TA anymore but rather for the pictures and jokes.  For TA we need to use a moderated thread.  Risto had a good one a while back but its not active recently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400235.msg10613694#msg10613694

Is it true?

I ignored him because that is all he ever says. Usually after heavy selling.

Masterluc's thread is the best TA thread. This is just for trololol fun.

[abercrombie]

Morning gents.   Kinda boring since the runup, just up and down until (boom) realization that the 50k auction is next Friday.

My prediction is starting to come to fruition as I celebrate here in my parent's basement.

[wpalczynski]

I guess some people do perceive him like that but the merits of the dev team will speak for themselves.  He is not part of the dev team just a very vocal proponent. 

This is known as the trolling thread.  No one comes here for TA anymore but rather for the pictures and jokes.  For TA we need to use a moderated thread.  Risto had a good one a while back but its not active recently.
...

He's pimping Monerooo now

I think that Monero would do better, if he would publicly distance himself from it.
Everything starts looking like a shady scam if you find out that he is involved. To me, he represents most of the things that are wrong with bitcoin. He's like the personification of greed, dishonesty and corruption.

[NotLambchop]

This is known as the trolling thread.  No one comes here for TA anymore but rather for the pictures and jokes.  For TA we need to use a moderated thread.  Risto had a good one a while back but its not active recently.
...

He's pimping Monerooo now

I think that Monero would do better, if he would publicly distance himself from it.
Everything starts looking like a shady scam if you find out that he is involved. To me, he represents most of the things that are wrong with bitcoin. He's like the personification of greed, dishonesty and corruption.

Yeah.  When I first ran across him, I thought we had sorta the same deadpan, always-in-character sense of humor (act like some poor trash's notion of a wealthy sophisticate  & see where that goes), but it's been an awful long time without any tells...

[Hunyadi]

All this selling and it's only $7 down? That's bullish!

+1

[wpalczynski]

In his defense I have never seen him be downright dishonest.  If you have any examples of this I would like to see them.   Has he been wrong on many of his predictions?  Yes, but who has not.  That hardly constitutes dishonesty in my opinion.

This is known as the trolling thread.  No one comes here for TA anymore but rather for the pictures and jokes.  For TA we need to use a moderated thread.  Risto had a good one a while back but its not active recently.
...

He's pimping Monerooo now

I think that Monero would do better, if he would publicly distance himself from it.
Everything starts looking like a shady scam if you find out that he is involved. To me, he represents most of the things that are wrong with bitcoin. He's like the personification of greed, dishonesty and corruption.

[BlackSpidy]

Morning gents.   Kinda boring since the runup, just up and down until (boom) realization that the 50k auction is next Friday.

My prediction is starting to come to fruition as I celebrate here in my parent's basement.

High five! My prediction came true as well. I predicted a run up to 250 and a drop in about $10 a few days ago. Now, If only I would have acted on it...

[NotLambchop]

In his defense I have never seen him be downright dishonest.  If you have any examples of this I would like to see them.   Has he been wrong on many of his predictions?  Yes, but who has not.  That hardly constitutes dishonesty in my opinion.

Dishonesty is an odd thing.  Is a guy who sells a starving family scratch tickets shares in a goldmine dishonest?
What if he tells the starving family that said goldmine's a sure way to make a million while sitting on their collective broke ass?

What if he, at the very same time, is selling them *his own* shares?

[Mervyn_Pumpkinhead]

I guess some people do perceive him like that but the merits of the dev team will speak for themselves.  He is not part of the dev team just a very vocal proponent. 

This is known as the trolling thread.  No one comes here for TA anymore but rather for the pictures and jokes.  For TA we need to use a moderated thread.  Risto had a good one a while back but its not active recently.
...

He's pimping Monerooo now

I think that Monero would do better, if he would publicly distance himself from it.
Everything starts looking like a shady scam if you find out that he is involved. To me, he represents most of the things that are wrong with bitcoin. He's like the personification of greed, dishonesty and corruption.

He should do Monero a favor and stop being a very vocal proponent then
Most of his endeavors end in a way, where other people involved will somehow lose their money and he will mysteriously be a little richer after that. And there's always others to blame for things to go down like that. Sometimes there are even bigger conspiracies against him, that make him look like a stereotypical con-man.

This is enough for me to stay away from Monero, even if the technical side is actually good. It's not just about the technical properties of the crypto, but also about the people who have proclaimed to have a big stake in the market. With some people, everything they touch just tends to turn to sh*t. It's usually practical to trust history and not make your bets on an assumption, that maybe this time things will be different.

[wpalczynski]

I'm not sure if I understand the analogy you used.  In your example does that someone selling the broke family shares in a goldmine equate to risto advising people publicly on this forum to buy bitcoin?  Or am I missing something and there is more to it?

In his defense I have never seen him be downright dishonest.  If you have any examples of this I would like to see them.   Has he been wrong on many of his predictions?  Yes, but who has not.  That hardly constitutes dishonesty in my opinion.

Dishonesty is an odd thing.  Is a guy who sells a starving family scratch tickets shares in a goldmine dishonest?
What if he tells the starving family that said goldmine's a sure way to make a million while sitting on their collective broke ass?

What if he, at the very same time, is selling them *his own* shares?

[MICRO]

Where is the train ?

[Mervyn_Pumpkinhead]

In his defense I have never seen him be downright dishonest.  If you have any examples of this I would like to see them.   Has he been wrong on many of his predictions?  Yes, but who has not.  That hardly constitutes dishonesty in my opinion.

This is known as the trolling thread.  No one comes here for TA anymore but rather for the pictures and jokes.  For TA we need to use a moderated thread.  Risto had a good one a while back but its not active recently.
...

He's pimping Monerooo now

I think that Monero would do better, if he would publicly distance himself from it.
Everything starts looking like a shady scam if you find out that he is involved. To me, he represents most of the things that are wrong with bitcoin. He's like the personification of greed, dishonesty and corruption.

I recommend you to read about his "Lost bitcoins & the sauna" stories in the past and then decide yourself if things add up.

[wpalczynski]

Fair enough, if that was the case in the past its always wise to let history guide you.  Can you give an example of some of these endeavors?

I guess some people do perceive him like that but the merits of the dev team will speak for themselves.  He is not part of the dev team just a very vocal proponent. 

This is known as the trolling thread.  No one comes here for TA anymore but rather for the pictures and jokes.  For TA we need to use a moderated thread.  Risto had a good one a while back but its not active recently.
...

He's pimping Monerooo now

I think that Monero would do better, if he would publicly distance himself from it.
Everything starts looking like a shady scam if you find out that he is involved. To me, he represents most of the things that are wrong with bitcoin. He's like the personification of greed, dishonesty and corruption.

He should do Monero a favor and stop being a very vocal proponent then
Most of his endeavors end in a way, where other people involved will somehow lose their money and he will mysteriously be a little richer after that. And there's always others to blame for things to go down like that. Sometimes there are even bigger conspiracies against him, that make him look like a stereotypical con-man.

This is enough for me to stay away from Monero, even if the technical side is actually good. It's not just about the technical properties of the crypto, but also about the people who have proclaimed to have a big stake in the market. With some people, everything they touch just tends to turn to sh*t. It's usually practical to trust history and not make your bets on an assumption, that maybe this time things will be different.

[wpalczynski]

I seem to recall how he lost a laptop with a substantial amount of bitcoin on it but I still don't get the dishonest part?  Whats the gist of the argument you are trying to make? 

In his defense I have never seen him be downright dishonest.  If you have any examples of this I would like to see them.   Has he been wrong on many of his predictions?  Yes, but who has not.  That hardly constitutes dishonesty in my opinion.

This is known as the trolling thread.  No one comes here for TA anymore but rather for the pictures and jokes.  For TA we need to use a moderated thread.  Risto had a good one a while back but its not active recently.
...

He's pimping Monerooo now

I think that Monero would do better, if he would publicly distance himself from it.
Everything starts looking like a shady scam if you find out that he is involved. To me, he represents most of the things that are wrong with bitcoin. He's like the personification of greed, dishonesty and corruption.

I recommend you to read about his "Lost bitcoins & the sauna" stories in the past and then decide yourself if things add up.

[abercrombie]

Morning gents.   Kinda boring since the runup, just up and down until (boom) realization that the 50k auction is next Friday.

My prediction is starting to come to fruition as I celebrate here in my parent's basement.

High five! My prediction came true as well. I predicted a run up to 250 and a drop in about $10 a few days ago. Now, If only I would have acted on it...

[NotLambchop]

I'm not sure if I understand the analogy you used.  In your example does that someone selling the broke family shares in a goldmine equate to risto advising people publicly on this forum to buy bitcoin?  Or am I missing something and there is more to it?

Yes it does.  And telling them that if they see their "investment" tank, it's only because of Bankster cabal suppressing the price to secretly increase their holdings  The Jews with Thermite, or, as his victims put it, "holding our hand through difficult times."

TL;DR:  Yes, but stop top-posting pl0x.

[Mervyn_Pumpkinhead]

I seem to recall how he lost a laptop with a substantial amount of bitcoin on it but I still don't get the dishonest part?  Whats the gist of the argument you are trying to make?  

In his defense I have never seen him be downright dishonest.  If you have any examples of this I would like to see them.   Has he been wrong on many of his predictions?  Yes, but who has not.  That hardly constitutes dishonesty in my opinion.

This is known as the trolling thread.  No one comes here for TA anymore but rather for the pictures and jokes.  For TA we need to use a moderated thread.  Risto had a good one a while back but its not active recently.
...

He's pimping Monerooo now

I think that Monero would do better, if he would publicly distance himself from it.
Everything starts looking like a shady scam if you find out that he is involved. To me, he represents most of the things that are wrong with bitcoin. He's like the personification of greed, dishonesty and corruption.

I recommend you to read about his "Lost bitcoins & the sauna" stories in the past and then decide yourself if things add up.

So, it makes sense that an experienced bitcoin user holds his coins on an unsecured laptop that he takes with him in his travels?

[wpalczynski]

I'm not sure if I understand the analogy you used.  In your example does that someone selling the broke family shares in a goldmine equate to risto advising people publicly on this forum to buy bitcoin?  Or am I missing something and there is more to it?

Yes it does.  And telling them that if they see their "investment" tank, it's only because of Bankster cabal suppressing the price to secretly increase their holdings  The Jews with Thermite, or, as his victims put it, "holding our hand through difficult times."

TL;DR:  Yes, but stop top-posting pl0x.

To me that is not dishonest, he probably believed it himself.  Some people might have lost money not buying in at the right time perhaps based on his advice but no one really knows where the price is going.  For me a dishonest person is one that knowingly lies or defrauds others in one way or another.

[NotLambchop]

Where is the train ?

Got it right around back, I think it just needs a jump...