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10.000 USD pr coin is what I would say is the real bitcoin price, if the market was fully informed. I think a lot will happen soon, and definitely the prices should be between 1000 and 10000 soon... with the 2500-5000 an more realistic range of the next bull market.

10,000 USD per coin, would make bitcoin only 0.18% of the global money supply (M2). I think this magic currency has the potential to play a much bigger role in global economics  Grin


This is exactly why we are still in infancy of the bitcoin history. Its like we still play in the sandbox at the kindergarten. Max Keisers prediction of 1 million dollar pr Bitcoin is worth thinking about on a daily basis. Its just a matter of time. I would say 10.000 dollar pr Bitcoin is the true value by now! With realistic result of this bull market hitting between 2500-5000 USD.

The transformation to the free world, will be very interesting in the next bulls of Bitcoin, as more people will be freed from the evil masters and this will contribute till even more people get freed... sorry I got back in the Matrix metaphor, that I have not used for years, as people around me got tired of listening to them in 2004-2007, but now they are very relevant in these days, as it happens in a very real maner with bitcoin as the tool.




Thank you for the clip!! makes me feel less alone... you know people around me think I am crasy for loving Bitcoins, by the way anybody have the same problem???
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Thank you for the clip!! makes me feel less alone... you know people around me think I am crasy for loving Bitcoins, by the way anybody have the same problem???


I think it's a subject best kept to oneself. If you run around evangelising it then you sound like a pushy nutter. If you persuade someone you know to get involved and anything goes wrong, be the whole thing going tits up or them getting hacked, it will forever be no one's fault but yours.
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Thank you for the clip!! makes me feel less alone... you know people around me think I am crasy for loving Bitcoins, by the way anybody have the same problem???


I think it's a subject best kept to oneself. If you run around evangelising it then you sound like a pushy nutter. If you persuade someone you know to get involved and anything goes wrong, be the whole thing going tits up or them getting hacked, it will forever be no one's fault but yours.

I wear a ballcap with just the BTC logo on it, not the word itself. Those who recognize it are usually predisposed toward Bitcoin and will often stop me to ask about it and my involvement with it.

Toronto being a hockey town, most people think it's something to do with the Boston Bruins though. LOL

It's kinda like younger women. If you hit on them, you're a dirty old man. If you let them hit on you, you're a cool old guy.

If you shove the subject of Bitcoin in people's faces, you're an evangelizing pushy nutter. If you let them approach you first, you're a knowledgeable aficionado.

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10.000 USD pr coin is what I would say is the real bitcoin price, if the market was fully informed. I think a lot will happen soon, and definitely the prices should be between 1000 and 10000 soon... with the 2500-5000 an more realistic range of the next bull market.

10,000 USD per coin, would make bitcoin only 0.18% of the global money supply (M2). I think this magic currency has the potential to play a much bigger role in global economics  Grin


This is exactly why we are still in infancy of the bitcoin history. Its like we still play in the sandbox at the kindergarten. Max Keisers prediction of 1 million dollar pr Bitcoin is worth thinking about on a daily basis. Its just a matter of time. I would say 10.000 dollar pr Bitcoin is the true value by now! With realistic result of this bull market hitting between 2500-5000 USD.

The transformation to the free world, will be very interesting in the next bulls of Bitcoin, as more people will be freed from the evil masters and this will contribute till even more people get freed... sorry I got back in the Matrix metaphor, that I have not used for years, as people around me got tired of listening to them in 2004-2007, but now they are very relevant in these days, as it happens in a very real maner with bitcoin as the tool.




Thank you for the clip!! makes me feel less alone... you know people around me think I am crasy for loving Bitcoins, by the way anybody have the same problem???

We all love btc. Even the bears and trolls. Especially them :p
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March 16, 2015, 09:16:19 PM

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March 16, 2015, 09:21:23 PM

I'm drunk now, and that gives me the power of truth!

I just get a feeling that somebody is driving the price of bitcoin versus USD down to protect the current system. But there is a technical bottom for driving the price down. Maybe we reached that bottom in mid-january this year? Maybe it's deeper. But the theoretical limit is down there somewhere. When the US are spending a gazillion USD to prevent a 14 year old kid from buying all bitcoin on exchanges for just 1 USD. The limit is above that. (And yes, when I say US, I actually mean the people running both US and China, he he).
 
I have read so many times bitcoiners saying that the price is not relevant. I have read that volatility is a problem. I have learned that bitcoin is SO FUCKING ROBUST to financial beatings. But the development of the price is extremely relevant. People have NO PROBLEM of storing their monetary values in a currency growing extremely fast! They just don't want it to go down. Volatility is not a problem. The problem is when your cash lost 10% during the day. To explain it to somebody as drunk as me. Up down up up down up down down up down up up down up down down up is not a problem when you want to store value. The Indonesian guy making sandals for tourists taking bitcoin is NOT worried about volatility. Only that the price is going down. He and me are just as greedy as the wall street guys and the lizards/aliens running them. The stakes are actually the same! The sandal maker and the wall street guy have excactly the same feeling when their wealth is reduced by 50%. They have the same joy when it's increasing.

I'm drunk, so I repeat myself. The adoption of bitcoin would be faster if price went up fast. It's a motive to manipulate the price down for the richest people in the world today. But there is a downward limit for manipulation. Maybe we saw that limit the 14.th of january. Maybe it's lower.

Long story short, people running the show have strong motives to let the price crash (To kill bitcoin). Maybe large scale shorting can do that. I think that is a reasonable path. But as we have all seen, it's really hard to knock it completely dead!

I'm editing this text above so much while beeing even more drunk than when I started to write this deep hearted text. I loose sight of the logical timeline in the text while editing. So all I can do at this moment, is to quote another drunk gentlemans words:

"THIS IS GENTLEMEN"
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March 16, 2015, 09:22:29 PM

I think this is what we can expect the next few weeks:


Lots of sideways action between 280-295
Lots of Sat/Sunday pumps
Lots of Wednesday-Sat dumps


People clearly feel that there is an imminent announcement. Whehter it is gbtc, gemini, or another huge VC investment, or even COIN news, people are going to buy up lots of coins between Sunday to Monday night in anticipation of an announcement.

Fundamentals are clearly improving, and in retrospect, we should have all gone long when Gemini stated that they plan to launch with a US facing bank that will provide full fledged USD services.

If you're sitting on the sidelines, I'd look to buy later in the week.
If you're looking to dump a heavy position, do it early in the week and always refresh reddit, twitter, and have sms news alerts before you pull the trigger.

I'm not necessarily convinced anything is on the horizon besides Gemini (which should have a monumental impact given that China currently holds about 75% of trading volume-- but if you remove btcchina they probably hold somewhere between 35-60% of all volume). But if Gemini launches with capabilities beyond buying and selling, and if this US facing bank is crazy bullish on bitcoin, it will pave the way for COIN and literally set an absolute floor for bitcoin in terms of value. A lot of people don't understand that a lot of institutional $ doesnt really move around. We're talking about roths, pensions, etc. All of those monies literally sit unmoved for years and decades. It will ensure that barring some zero day exploit, bitcoin will have an absolute floor in a post-gemini, post-etf world. Literally "cheap" coins will be a figure of speech.
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Thank you for the clip!! makes me feel less alone... you know people around me think I am crasy for loving Bitcoins, by the way anybody have the same problem???


I think it's a subject best kept to oneself. If you run around evangelising it then you sound like a pushy nutter. If you persuade someone you know to get involved and anything goes wrong, be the whole thing going tits up or them getting hacked, it will forever be no one's fault but yours.

I wear a ballcap with just the BTC logo on it, not the word itself. Those who recognize it are usually predisposed toward Bitcoin and will often stop me to ask about it and my involvement with it.

Toronto being a hockey town, most people think it's something to do with the Boston Bruins though. LOL

It's kinda like younger women. If you hit on them, you're a dirty old man. If you let them hit on you, you're a cool old guy.

If you shove the subject of Bitcoin in people's faces, you're an evangelizing pushy nutter. If you let them approach you first, you're a knowledgeable aficionado.

 Cool


Thank you very much guys!!! That's the best advise I have got in a very long time, will be very helpful for me... I am very happy now... I want to go get some beers and begin to talk the truth (after) with you guys Smiley
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I'm drunk now, and that gives me the power of truth!


Smoke up! Don't drink.Drink bad

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Thank you for the clip!! makes me feel less alone... you know people around me think I am crasy for loving Bitcoins, by the way anybody have the same problem???


I think it's a subject best kept to oneself. If you run around evangelising it then you sound like a pushy nutter. If you persuade someone you know to get involved and anything goes wrong, be the whole thing going tits up or them getting hacked, it will forever be no one's fault but yours.

I wear a ballcap with just the BTC logo on it, not the word itself. Those who recognize it are usually predisposed toward Bitcoin and will often stop me to ask about it and my involvement with it.

Toronto being a hockey town, most people think it's something to do with the Boston Bruins though. LOL

It's kinda like younger women. If you hit on them, you're a dirty old man. If you let them hit on you, you're a cool old guy.

If you shove the subject of Bitcoin in people's faces, you're an evangelizing pushy nutter. If you let them approach you first, you're a knowledgeable aficionado.

 Cool


Thank you very much guys!!! That's the best advise I have got in a very long time, will be very helpful for me... I am very happy now... I want to go get some beers and begin to talk the truth (after) with you guys Smiley

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Thank you for the clip!! makes me feel less alone... you know people around me think I am crasy for loving Bitcoins, by the way anybody have the same problem???


I think it's a subject best kept to oneself. If you run around evangelising it then you sound like a pushy nutter. If you persuade someone you know to get involved and anything goes wrong, be the whole thing going tits up or them getting hacked, it will forever be no one's fault but yours.

I wear a ballcap with just the BTC logo on it, not the word itself. Those who recognize it are usually predisposed toward Bitcoin and will often stop me to ask about it and my involvement with it.

Toronto being a hockey town, most people think it's something to do with the Boston Bruins though. LOL

It's kinda like younger women. If you hit on them, you're a dirty old man. If you let them hit on you, you're a cool old guy.

If you shove the subject of Bitcoin in people's faces, you're an evangelizing pushy nutter. If you let them approach you first, you're a knowledgeable aficionado.

 Cool


Thank you very much guys!!! That's the best advise I have got in a very long time, will be very helpful for me... I am very happy now... I want to go get some beers and begin to talk the truth (after) with you guys Smiley
Actually, you just learned the essence of picking up women as in the great book "The Game" by Neil Strauss. Use it on those dirty sluts, not potential bitcoin nerds tonight!  Grin
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March 16, 2015, 09:47:48 PM

Coindesk Launches "Deals" BTC NOT ACCEPTED!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=991990.0


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March 16, 2015, 10:02:12 PM

Facebook-twins start to talk in SXSW conference (party?) in two minutes. I don't think they announce "Critical ETF Info", because these public releases are not timed with public appearences like this. Still, I watch these spoiled brats very close  Grin
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March 16, 2015, 10:02:47 PM

SXSW Winklevoss Bitcoin talk starting if anyone's interested.

www.sxsw.com/on
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March 16, 2015, 10:18:33 PM

Coindesk Launches "Deals" BTC NOT ACCEPTED!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=991990.0


Lol

I know, and I think it's old news. But to be just as serious and frank as I'm drunk: Coindesk is a paradise when it comes to independent reporting. Their founder & owner is heavy invested in BTC. I really liked their report on the rumour that some IS people (called terrorists) said bitcoin is good for our strategy. PS. I am against IS great ambitions of making a global Khalifat. But I also see the similarities in Norway when Nazies rolled in to control my country.

I think Coindesk is the most unbiased, professional and independent news outlet about bitcoin today. Even with the owner (Who obviously understands how media should work).

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March 16, 2015, 10:20:51 PM

These guys are terrible at presentation skills.

I'm not sure these guys are doing much for the cause, they sound like nutcases.  First time seeing them though, they're passionate but their arguments are totally vapid.
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These guys are terrible at presentation skills.

Unfortunately I have to agree.
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These guys are terrible at presentation skills.

Unfortunately I have to agree.

Agreed. Something they could improve upon.
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