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[jbreher]

Of course, there are several rebels including your buddy jbreher who just wuvs himselfie some coinbase....

::shrugs:: I get my charts where I do my bidnez. I see no point in trawling over to schtamp just to get your panties outta your crack.

[jbreher]

You know that jbreher got pretty worked up when some of us (well partly emphasized by me) continued to refer to him as a govt agent...

Go Fuck Yourself, JuniorGee.

How are we supposed to really know peeps on the interwebs? 

Didn't you know? I am mindrust's alter ego. I thought everyone already knew that.

[HairyMaclairy]

I ain't shilling anything. I am pointing out the negative consequences -- quite reversible ones, if the community would get off it's collective delusional metaphorical fat ass -- of implementing a centrally planned production quota upon transactional capacity.

You can keep pushing that narrative but no one wants to use a fork owned and run by Calvin Ayre and Craig Wright. Or Roger Ver for that matter.

[jbreher]

I ain't shilling anything. I am pointing out the negative consequences -- quite reversible ones, if the community would get off it's collective delusional metaphorical fat ass -- of implementing a centrally planned production quota upon transactional capacity.

You can keep pushing that narrative but no one wants to use a fork owned and run by Calvin Ayre and Craig Wright. Or Roger Ver for that matter.  I don’t know how you can stand associating yourself with those characters.

Funny how I'm clearly talking about BTC, and you yammer on about personalities associated with other Bitcoins.

[JayJuanGee]

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Dude I've been HODLing since 2011 nothing can make me feel depressed anymore. I've seen it all. I'm freaking invincible.  

Do you not have any cash flow in order to buy more BTC since 2011?  2011 was a very tumultuous year in BTC-landia..

Surely, I was not even cognizant of BTC in 2011 besides maybe I might have heard the word, but I really don't remember having any kind of meaningful knowledge at all about BTC, besides hearing the name, until late 2013.

I mean in 2011, the BTC price went from sub $1 to $32 and back to $2 and up to $5.

Those would have been decently trying times for any BTC HODLer, also maybe which part of 2011 that you got into BTC and how much you got in for, approximately how many coins relative to your overall wealth or investments in other things could be factors, too.

Even though I don't really have any reason to NOT believe you, but shouldn't we be taking your representation regarding HODLer status and trying to relate to some of us more active HODLers with a decently-sized grain of salt, especially if you do not provide us with any kind of meaningful context regarding what HODLer since 2011 means exactly.  

For example, there is a difference between obtaining 10 BTC and forgetting about them for a few years, or holding 1,000 BTC or more, but if you were a person of considerable financial means, then even having 1,000 or more BTC might have just been stuck in some kind of "forgot about" location, but is that a HODLer in the same kind of way that many of us current quasi-aware-and-in-touch BTC HODLers would consider BTCHODLing?

I mean, even if you got a decent stash of BTC in 2011 in the 100s or more, what did you do between 2011 and late 2017 when your account got registered on this forum?  Did you get your BTC from MTGOX or some other methodology of obtaining them?  There were not too many ways to get BTC in 2011.  Mining is another story, but that would be more of a complicated and involved story, too, which would have likely caused you to have some decent amount of actively monitoring your BTC stash, no?

Unless you were largely detached from even understanding the value of your BTC holdings (which is possible), then maybe you would have done something with your BTC stash since 2011?  There has been a whole hell of a lot of BTC movement and development in BTC since 2011, and in other words, that is a long and difficult amount of time in BTClandia - including a lot of damned uncertainties regarding price and even BTC's likely success, and there are hardly any actual active people in BTC-landia that bought any significant amount of BTC in 2011 and did not do anything with their BTC between 2011 and 2017 and even currently..... Those would be unicorn kinds of people, and therefore there should be some kind of a story there...

Surely, I personally take any inference of the existence of any unicorn with a decently-sized grain of salt.  

Also, it is possible that you had another account in this forum?  Your current user name is only registered in late 2017 - which registration of such account happened to have happened during our last BTC run-up hype, but might not have been a great time for anyone to have been registering an account here who had a 2011 HODL BTC stash to register an account during mania times - but sure, anything is possible, I suppose, but still seems like it would be an interesting backstory - especially if you assert that you just held through all of the chaos and that you were NOT monitoring your BTC investment.  

On the other hand, if your investment in BTC in 2011 had seemed to have been a decently small amount from your perspective (depending on your other investments, even several hundred BTC could have seemed like a very small investment), but then all of a sudden, BTC's price had risen in 2017 had perked your attention because all of a sudden what you had considered as a kind of "write-off" investment began to become way more valuable than all of the rest of your non-btc investment portfolio combined... hahahahahaha.. That could be plausible, too, but we should hear that from you rather than me, no?

TLDR: (somebody made a request that I do this "TLDR" thingie-ma-jiggie a decently long time ago, so therefore I am trying to conform a little bit) What is the context of your proclaimed HODLer of BTC since 2011 status, serveria?

[HairyMaclairy]

I ain't shilling anything. I am pointing out the negative consequences -- quite reversible ones, if the community would get off it's collective delusional metaphorical fat ass -- of implementing a centrally planned production quota upon transactional capacity.

You can keep pushing that narrative but no one wants to use a fork owned and run by Calvin Ayre and Craig Wright. Or Roger Ver for that matter.  I don’t know how you can stand associating yourself with those characters.

Funny how I'm clearly talking about BTC, and you yammer on about personalities associated with other Bitcoins.

Oh so you want another hard fork of Bitcoin?  Go for it, we won’t stop you !

[mindrust]

Serveria surely don't have the confidence of a hodler from 2011.

Acts more like a guy who sold his house and went all in when btc was $20k

[JayJuanGee]

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I ain't shilling anything. I am pointing out the negative consequences -- quite reversible ones, if the community would get off it's collective delusional metaphorical fat ass -- of implementing a centrally planned production quota upon transactional capacity.

You are a dweeb, jbreher.  Ongoingly throwing out amorphous accusations that bitcoin is broken in some kind of way, when you likely realize that the target of your various ongoing complaints are features and not bugs.  aka shilling (or more likely govt. agent).   

[JayJuanGee]

Serveria surely don't have the confidence of a hodler from 2011.

Acts more like a guy who sold his house and went all in when btc was $20k

That could be true.

There are a decent number of people who just make shit up, and if they can get away with it, they like to present such a story.

In late 2017, I was filtering out several people who wanted to buy through local bitcoins, and it just got really overwhelming how many people wanted to buy, but also several of the people would just lie to my face and act like they been in BTC for a long time.  They were buying at $16k or whatever, but acting like they had been engaged in such buying behaviors for years and years.  Where the fuck were they in 2015 and 2016, when the BTC market was more calm?  I did not have evidence that they were not what they claimed to be, but there were a lot of them in 2016 who were trying to set up an ongoing and high buying relationship with me during that time, and I was trying to limit my buys... None of the crazies really added up.

[JayJuanGee]

I already responded both that your facts are not correct and also,

So you're asserting that the charts I posted links to contain fraudulent figures? Interesting. I don't believe your assertion is correct, so I will tentatively conclude that you are delusional on these additional matters of fact.

I'll be happy to rescind my conclusion of delusional, just as soon as you post links to credible evidence of corrected data.

I don't feel like playing your game of "gotcha" because ultimately, you are full of shit, and even if you might be using some actual facts, your way of weighting facts and/or drawing reasonable inferences from such "facts" tends to be all over the fucking place.

Great.  We can overview that you can attempt to retroactively re-write history in your favor in order to say that X, Y or Z was happening, but in the end, just like Hairy said, many of us don't buy your bullshit attempts at re-emphasizing facts (if true) in your favor to create your dumbass narrative that bitcoin has been broken since early 2017 - when we also know that proclamation is not true either, even though it was continuously spouted out by a decent number of BIG blockers on a regular basis, including ur lil selfie.

By the way, have you figured out some ways to diversify you Bcash holdings in such a way that you do not tend to be so emotional about the weight of your allocations in that direction?  I know that at one time, in about late 2017, you and your buddy, PeterR were advocating 50/50 or some baloney like that, but after the bcash further forkening in November 2018, you likely had to reconsider your allocations.  I have a hard time relating to any of that, but there could be ways that you may have been able to preserve some of the value in relation to if you would have just kept most of it in BTC - so perhaps some of your desperation is waiting for another bcash SV pumpening since you seem to have had a fallen out from the more widely accepted bcash ABC.  You might not want to disclose your allocations because that might even make you look dumber and more desperate than if you just kept up on these distraction tactics in your continuing to make loosely based on facts arguments that bitcoin has been broken since early 2017-ish.. blah blah blah.

[JayJuanGee]

Well done Nutildah!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4850225.msg52117047#msg52117047

I don’t know if You subscribed to Maggiordomo, in case you didn’t, Fillippone is here to help!

No, I didn't, for the most part I don't want to hear what others are saying about me, but this time its an exception! Thanks for the heads up.

I also want to thank my mom, Jesus Christ, of course the big man upstairs, oh and micgoossens, jbreher and who could forget JJG, for helping to push me well past the 1,000 mark, I love you all and I hope to win this award again next year! Never stop believing in yourself!! You can do anything!!!

Lovely acceptance speech. As one of the little people, it makes me proud by reflection.

I kind of felt similar, even while feeling moar littler than you, jbreher.   

[sirazimuth]

I also want to thank ~, Jesus Christ, of course the big man upstairs,....

Jesus Christ and the upstairs sky fairy....
oookaay then...

Nope, not even gonna go there.....



oh ffs..
 I just noticed that nut job is polluting the thread again with his obsession that I won't mention.

(post edited to reflect correct quote..thanx jjg)

[jojo69]

Aaaaaaaaaaaand, Epstein found dead in his cell...

Who didn't see that coming? 

For the better.....

Except now there wont be a trial for him where he would likely bring unwanted attention to numerous politicians including Bill Clinton for pedophilia/sex traffic related visits on his private island. But ya, good riddance just wish it would have happened after the trial.

Southern District of NY says they will continue the investigation.  Hard to believe anything will come of it though. 

Agreed, and the FBI "investigation" into his death will be a transparent sanitation job as per usual.

[JayJuanGee]

While most alts have been dumped, XMR and LTC have not been. I wonder why they left them. I don't think these two coins are going to perform well.

Litecoin acolytes hold heartfulls of halvening hopium.

As for Ripple, it is arguably not a cryptocurrency.

You must be navigating on autopilot in terms of NOT knowing your shitcoins.  Not that it is a plus to know shitcoins.  As long as you know the various forms of bcash and BIG blocker talk, what else do you need to know? 


In other words, no one mentioned Ripple.

XMR = Monero

Ripple = XRP

[CheapYoutubeHits]

Is it true that donald trump uses bitcoin as a tax haven? like they did in panama?

[JayJuanGee]

Of course, there are several rebels including your buddy jbreher who just wuvs himselfie some coinbase....

::shrugs:: I get my charts where I do my bidnez. I see no point in trawling over to schtamp just to get your panties outta your crack.

hahahahahaha

You, jbreher, seem to be in a decently good mood today.   

You know that jbreher got pretty worked up when some of us (well partly emphasized by me) continued to refer to him as a govt agent...

Go Fuck Yourself, JuniorGee.

Whoaza!!!!  Maybe I spoke too soon with my above comment?

How are we supposed to really know peeps on the interwebs? 

Didn't you know? I am mindrust's alter ego. I thought everyone already knew that.

I was just saying that there might have been evidence that each of you had gotten similar information, suggesting that such same information came from the same handler.  I would not have gone anywhere close to suggesting that you are dee same peeps.  Lookie @ uie, jbreher.  Trying to throw the bloodhounds off the trail.. .that's quite crafty of you.  Only a higher level govt. agent would be competent to try those kinds of maneuvers.

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.........you yammer on about personalities associated with other Bitcoins.

Oh gawd!!!!!

I ain't shilling anything. I am pointing out the negative consequences -- quite reversible ones, if the community would get off it's collective delusional metaphorical fat ass -- of implementing a centrally planned production quota upon transactional capacity.

You can keep pushing that narrative but no one wants to use a fork owned and run by Calvin Ayre and Craig Wright. Or Roger Ver for that matter.  I don’t know how you can stand associating yourself with those characters.

Funny how I'm clearly talking about BTC, and you yammer on about personalities associated with other Bitcoins.

Oh so you want another hard fork of Bitcoin?  Go for it, we won’t stop you !

We cannot stop dumb from continuing to dumb.

[JayJuanGee]

I also want to thank ~, Jesus Christ, of course the big man upstairs,....

Jesus Christ and the upstairs sky fairy....
oookaay then...

Nope, not even gonna go there.....

You seem to have gotten your above quote attribution wrong, sirazimuth.

It was nutildah, and not me, who was thanking jesus and the upstair guy.   Not that I would not have loved to have been so creative in my own presentation of any such matter....


Below is the proper reference.

I also want to thank my mom, Jesus Christ, of course the big man upstairs, oh and micgoossens, jbreher and who could forget JJG, for helping to push me well past the 1,000 mark, I love you all and I hope to win this award again next year! Never stop believing in yourself!! You can do anything!!!

[STT]

The Coinbase chart is %99.9 identical to the bitstamp chart. I don't see a problem. Maybe I am blind. Changing back and forth, it is the exact same chart.

So long as you take a constant reference not whatever chart suits a pov on the day its probably fair to use most major exchanges.   Bitfinex is the one I see referred to as being the biggest exchange and so some say most accurate because it has the most volume.   But we lack the benefit of centralised trading like the pricing on most instruments, its the nature of BTC that its split over many nations and time zones so I'm never sure exactly where the volume is most favouring.   It would be alot easier if we could point to certain volume at a price.   I dont really take the price seriously until its finishes the daily bar but as a trade that kinda sucks

mindrust is overly bearish in my opinion. We've had enough of those dumps and "last down before up" theories. It's very unlikely we're going back into 4 digits.  

I think we're going to four digits and it doesnt have to be bearish just that we'll keep bouncing off the inside of this box until its broken.   Seems it could be up or down even if people predict it were going down to the bottom line, it seems to just bounce up again.    I guess this is normal, we did move far in a pretty short period of time.    To then wait around after this rapid ascent, at the top even while going up and down thousands, thats bullish whether you want it to be or not.

[Lambie Slayer]

Cant make Bitcoin commit "suicide" in a jail cell.

USD shitcoiners getting desperate. Butfucklocker bot is back on again too.

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[FrodoBagHolder]

Local highs/lows looking good, hold on WO’s