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[vroom]

Guys, I've been reading this crazy stuff posted by someone called "Shelby Moore" (whose messages were recently re-posted in the WO thread by user THX 1138), about how all coins held in SegWit addresses will be donated to miners, as they are free-to-spend coins in the legacy (pre-SegWit) blockchain, and only the coins held in legacy addresses will stay intact and belonging to their owners (private key holders). Supposedly, this attack will occur near the 2020 Halving event and will wreak havoc, resulting in the legacy chain being resurrected from the dead and becoming the dominant one, and the SegWit chain disintegrating into oblivion and causing a massive BTC price drop to near-zero.

What do you make of this?

Some more Qs:

1. Is it possible to move any of our coins held in SegWit addresses to legacy addresses (so that they would belong to the legacy chain if the above attack does happen)? Does the fact that, at some point in their history, those coins were held in SegWit addresses, taint them in any way? Would they still be considered as fully belonging to the legacy chain once moved to legacy addresses?

2. Would you do it? Do you think it's worth it?

3. Do these questions even make any sense?

4. Am I wasting my time with all this?

Thanks for any insights.

This is pretty old big blocker FUD. If this would be a real issue, why is there a segwit address with 190000 bitcoin? 35hK24tcLEWcgNA4JxpvbkNkoAcDGqQPsP

Are the miners stupid or why don't they grab these AnyOneCanSpend bitcoin?

[Cryptotourist]

Guys, I've been reading this crazy stuff posted by someone called "Shelby Moore" (whose messages were recently re-posted in the WO thread by user THX 1138), about how all coins held in SegWit addresses will be donated to miners, as they are free-to-spend coins in the legacy (pre-SegWit) blockchain, and only the coins held in legacy addresses will stay intact and belonging to their owners (private key holders). Supposedly, this attack will occur near the 2020 Halving event and will wreak havoc, resulting in the legacy chain being resurrected from the dead and becoming the dominant one, and the SegWit chain disintegrating into oblivion and causing a massive BTC price drop to near-zero.

What do you make of this?

Some more Qs:

1. Is it possible to move any of our coins held in SegWit addresses to legacy addresses (so that they would belong to the legacy chain if the above attack does happen)? Does the fact that, at some point in their history, those coins were held in SegWit addresses, taint them in any way? Would they still be considered as fully belonging to the legacy chain once moved to legacy addresses?

2. Would you do it? Do you think it's worth it?

3. Do these questions even make any sense?

4. Am I wasting my time with all this?

Thanks for any insights.

The first word that comes in mind, is outrageous (claims).

1. Yes. No. Yes

2. Why not?

3. Em, yes.

4. Probably, who the fuck knows?

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Spartans reporting for Duty? (Banjo included)


Also known as the Cryptonians..

Slavic motherfucking Cuntonian bastards.

[Phil_S]

We certainly don’t look like falling under $8,000 soon.

Don't say that.

[VB1001]

HODLer: PayPal CEO Dan Schulman Admits That He Owns Bitcoin

The CEO of PayPal, one of the world’s largest and most established online payment processors,
has revealed in an interview that he owns Bitcoin and no other cryptocurrencies.

https://cryptopotato.com/hodler-paypal-ceo-dan-schulman-admits-that-he-owns-bitcoin/

[infofront]

Guys, I've been reading this crazy stuff posted by someone called "Shelby Moore" (whose messages were recently re-posted in the WO thread by user THX 1138), about how all coins held in SegWit addresses will be donated to miners, as they are free-to-spend coins in the legacy (pre-SegWit) blockchain, and only the coins held in legacy addresses will stay intact and belonging to their owners (private key holders). Supposedly, this attack will occur near the 2020 Halving event and will wreak havoc, resulting in the legacy chain being resurrected from the dead and becoming the dominant one, and the SegWit chain disintegrating into oblivion and causing a massive BTC price drop to near-zero.

What do you make of this?

Some more Qs:

1. Is it possible to move any of our coins held in SegWit addresses to legacy addresses (so that they would belong to the legacy chain if the above attack does happen)? Does the fact that, at some point in their history, those coins were held in SegWit addresses, taint them in any way? Would they still be considered as fully belonging to the legacy chain once moved to legacy addresses?

2. Would you do it? Do you think it's worth it?

3. Do these questions even make any sense?

4. Am I wasting my time with all this?

Thanks for any insights.

1. Yes. Maybe. Yes.
2. Yes. Probably - for peace of mind, if nothing else.
3. Yes.
4. Maybe.

[fillippone]

Hello Team.

I discovered Someone made me aware of  this little tool:



I usually know what i do care about Bitcoin (halving date, meetup in local area etc.), and I don't usually indulge in shitcoins.
But you might find it useful for research puroposes. ("When is Bitcoin Gold halvening again?")

Have fun.

[VB1001]

https://i.imgur.com/LhGI39t.jpg

I'm definitely in the second link in the chain that starts at the top.

Trolls and weak hands, we already have them in the thread.

StrongHats

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Observing $8,125 USD/BTC.

I think we've seen the bottom for this round.

I’m supposed to only send 8 Merit’s per day (my monthly source allowance) but I can’t resist here.

[VB1001]

Observing $8,125 USD/BTC.

I think we've seen the bottom for this round.

I’m supposed to only send 8 Merit’s per day (my monthly source allowance) but I can’t resist here.

We all have the harpoon ready.

[bkbirge]

A day late and a doll..btc short in my opinion. The unthinkable inertia of the US gov't here is only rivaled by the surprising agility of the Chinese gov't.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-federal-reserve-exploring-digital-dollar-and-its-effect-on-monetary-system

Powell revealed that the agency is conducting its own small-scale, research-focused experiments to gain hands-on experience and better understand the opportunities and limitations of CBDCs.

[Last of the V8s]

Observing $8,125 USD/BTC.

I think we've seen the bottom for this round.

Epstein's prison guards didn't kill themselves?

[DireWolfM14]

Observing $8,125 USD/BTC.

I think we've seen the bottom for this round.

Epstein's prison guards didn't kill themselves?

That's the plot for the next episode of Clinton Body Count.

[realr0ach]

I actually stopped to look to see if anyone reported that one of the oldest and largest crypto exchanges was a front for Russian intelligence.

I’m 99% sure the Bitfinex rabbit hole is deeper and more twisted than BTC-e.

After zero people went to jail like Karpeles did, and not even a single person was really even minorly inconvenienced by questioning after Bitfinex stole all customer deposits in broad daylight while lying and claiming they were hacked, it was blatantly obvious Bitfinex has some sort of ties to the ESF, TBTF banks, or other government entity in the US or China that just calls off all investigation because...they have no desire to investigate their own financial crimes.

If you're in the camp that believes the government is attempting to suppress the price of Bitcoin, then obviously entities like the ESF would just take over exchanges like MtGox and Bitfinex and manipulate the price directly.  If you're in the camp that believes Bitcoin is a government created scam to try and distract people away from physical metals and trick them into a cashless society slavery system, they would do a similar thing but just rig the price up instead.

What evidence do we have to support either of these hypothesis?  Well, a single entity has controlled the price on Bitfinex 99% of the time all the way from $200 to $20,000, and that entity has artificially rigged the price upwards and not down.  That entity also seems to be completely above the law and immune to any type of prosecution no matter what they do, so draw your own conclusions.

[serveria.com]

Observing $8,125 USD/BTC.

I think we've seen the bottom for this round.

OMG! A butt that can turn Bob straight! 

[Phil_S]

Sept-Oct-Nov season in

2019
2018
2017



Seeing $8000 was more fun 2 years ago...

[El duderino_]

Curious gonna watch Le Mans now... so 2h and 30min no price watching

[fillippone]

Curious gonna watch Le Mans now... so 2h and 30min no price watching

Those cars were not lambos, but drivers surely were....hodlers.

EDIT: Maybe in 2021 Lamborghini will return to Le Mans, a very different one, tough.
https://www.motor1.com/news/364193/lamborghini-2021-le-mans-entry/

[realr0ach]

Guys, I've been reading this crazy stuff posted by someone called "Shelby Moore"

The anyone can spend attack is very legit for anyone with historical perspective on how governments work.  In the same way that governments attempt to confiscate gold, if they believed Bitcoin would continue to exist in some manner and not die off, they would love to confiscate all Bitcoins in the same way by invalidating all coins on the segwit fork while having purchased all BSV coins (the now claimed 'real' fork) for pennies on the dollar beforehand, giving themselves and the Zio-bankers more of a monopoly ownership.

I would say this is not really even a malevolent banker attack, but the responsibility for this lies solely on the people who pushed segwit through while pretending it was not a hard fork when it really is.  You see, a change in the security model of Bitcoin makes coins non-fungible no matter how seemingly trivial the change is, and a change in fungibility is a hard fork.  All that matters is if the change exposes one chain to an attack vector the other one is not exposed to.  They pretended that fungbility doesn't matter at all because Bitcoins were already non-fungible in the first place, and this could be their eventual downfall.  

[Raja_MBZ]

Wow, thank you all for dedicating out some precious time of yours to my art entry!

It's finally ready:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193860.msg53124359#msg53124359

(my art submission)

Nice work buddy, that's awesome, and unique! Gonna have to take my time with it to see it all.

Raja's submission is truly great

Thanks!

It's finally ready:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193860.msg53124359#msg53124359

(my art submission)

Who's that guy on the bill?

Hmmm, I'm not so sure what you're referring to. Have you looked at the details provided in my post? You may simply count the column number x row number of the image and then scroll down to that Column x Row details. You'll not only find little (text) details about the image, but also the .PNG and .PSD file URL to that particular image.

Caps of the people who posted in this thread in the last 15 days:



It's a part of my art; can't afford to have more clarity/size in the image because there are opsec resolution issues.

I see at least one homo.

Hmmm... I'd love to know more about it.

[realr0ach]

As for any of the other economic analysis Anonymint does, 99% of it is just plagiarized from Martin Armstrong, who is 100% undeniably a lying conman as I talked about in this post:

I've never liked Martin Armstrong.  Virtually all of his calls he gives some obscure "well, if X happens, then Y will happen, and if it doesn't, then Z will happen," then claims he was 'correct' whichever way the market goes when he never even made an actual call in the first place.

Of the FEW calls he actually does make, his last call that really stuck out to me was when he claimed gold was going to "collapse below $800 to the abyss".  When did he make that call?  LITERALLY AT THE VERY BOTTOM of the gold market.  I forget which, but it was either at the $1050 or $1150 point.

People like Harry Dent are paid government shills whose only purpose for existing is to try and get people to buy into the stock market Ponzi, the dollar and bond Ponzi, and to try and trick them into not buying metals.  When it's so obvious Harry Dent is a paid government shill, why are virtually ALL of Martin Armstrong's sayings concerning the dollar, stocks, and metals identical to Harry Dent?  Because he's also a low-life, Zio-shill, duh.

So what is Martin Armstrong's latest platter serving of bullshit?  "While our computer shows he should win (Trump), it also shows he may not finish out a second term."


So now instead of trying to fool people into believing he has an all-knowing, computer algorithm that can flawlessly predict any financial market on earth - even though such a thing would make him the richest person on earth and he's a financial peasant - he now claims his magical computer algorithm (based on Pi mind you) is specifically reaching out into the void with completely non-financial data - data that is impossible to have access to because the variables are endless and have nothing whatsoever to do with financial cycles - to claim Trump will be re-elected but somehow arbitrarily kicked out of office in his second term.

Trying to claim a computer algorithm TOLD HIM that is completely laughable.  This is obviously complete bullshit.  He makes up random things and claims a 'magical computer' told him it will happen.