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This is so true...  It's like the democratic party completely turned into what they hate overnight, and their subjects haven't quite caught on yet.  They've overstepped and overplayed their hand though and it's beyond obvious that democrats are hell bent on raping this country for everything it has and will not stop until everyone is a millionaire and living life as though that was the poverty line.  The sad part is, the massive amount of inflation they're going to cause while duping the poor into thinking they care about them, will only cause the very people they're trying to help to become a permanent renter class unable to own anything.  Meanwhile, the conservatives they claim to hate will become more and more wealthy just for managing to maintain ownership of assets and keep their head above water.  It's almost like the democrat leaders are the real rich people (yes, liberal politicians are much wealthier than conservative politicians) and don't care about their subjects personal well being, they only want to pawn off all society's needs on the government so they don't have to give anything back themselves or be held responsible for the peons' degrading lifestyles. 


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October 11, 2021, 09:31:25 PM

@Pladizow
🚨🐂BULL ALERT!🐂🚨

Question:
What happens when prices closes above a prior ATH monthly close?

Answer: 🚀
https://twitter.com/pladizow/status/1447607513231335424?s=21


good idea, somewhat exagerrated numbers.
Example: 2013 first peak at $250, second peak at $1163.
To me it computes as 365%, not 750%, but...whatever..small details  Roll Eyes
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October 11, 2021, 09:41:12 PM
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A calculation:

If bitcoin goes up every day just 4.08% (today's gain) until Dec 31, the price would be at about.... $1.46 mil/btc, lol
The compounding effects for you.

EDIT: I can settle for a third or even a quarter  Grin
EDIT2: steady 2% a day until the New Year would give it ~$284K
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October 11, 2021, 10:04:17 PM
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It means you are now the banker sucking the pennies out of dirt poor farmers pockets.
If that was the goal all along then yes you are winning.

Well, snark aside, I'm just saying, providing this liquidity after channel open and close costs is not free.

Nevermind loop fees for rebalancing.

Kinda trying not to unzip my pants here, and beat you across the face. Ya dig?

Slippery slope, sometimes we need to remember the big picture.
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October 11, 2021, 10:06:25 PM

Channel reinstated without any explanation.
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Bitcoin info "harmful and dangerous"  Wink

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https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fontonlake-malware-infects-linux-systems-via-trojanized-utilities/

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The researchers discovered three custom backdoors written in C++ associated with the FontOnLake malware family, which provide operators remote access to the infected system.

A common function for all three of them is to transfer collected sshd credentials and bash command history to the C2 server. They also use custom heartbeat commands to keep alive the connection to the control server.
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October 11, 2021, 10:46:56 PM


... plot twist, the Alphabet AI, manages Youtube and Google assets, is intentionally creating a Striesand effect to orange pill more people into bitcoin through PlanB S2F
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October 11, 2021, 10:56:00 PM
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It means you are now the banker sucking the pennies out of dirt poor farmers pockets.
If that was the goal all along then yes you are winning.

Well, snark aside, I'm just saying, providing this liquidity after channel open and close costs is not free.

Nevermind loop fees for rebalancing.

Kinda trying not to unzip my pants here, and beat you across the face. Ya dig?

Slippery slope, sometimes we need to remember the big picture.

Hueristic, NO, I really think you are just taking a very simplistic view. I am assuming you don't have a LN node. Bob's chances of interacted with a poor farmer is close to zero!

Most users on LN, like the peeps in El Salvador will generally interact within their own LN Hub. It would be the provider of the LN Wallet that may interact with Bob, and i mean may.

While the fees may seem high, i can assure you it isn't. form my calculations, bob node's fee is about 0.03%

If Bob is getting a lot of routing flowing through his node, it meas two things.

1. Liquidity through his route is good.
2. He has the lowest fee compare with the other possible working routes.

There are many routes a payment can take, but from my experience, if you want to pay little or no fees, then 99.99% of the time, it will fail.
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It means you are now the banker sucking the pennies out of dirt poor farmers pockets.
If that was the goal all along then yes you are winning.

Well, snark aside, I'm just saying, providing this liquidity after channel open and close costs is not free.

Nevermind loop fees for rebalancing.

Kinda trying not to unzip my pants here, and beat you across the face. Ya dig?

Slippery slope, sometimes we need to remember the big picture.

... tell us how you really feel?

... what do you think of bitcoin miners charging transaction fees?

... banksters sucking pennies out of dirt poor people is mostly abhorrent because it is within a monopolised system that offers no competition or alternatives
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October 11, 2021, 11:14:10 PM

It means you are now the banker sucking the pennies out of dirt poor farmers pockets.
If that was the goal all along then yes you are winning.

Well, snark aside, I'm just saying, providing this liquidity after channel open and close costs is not free.

Nevermind loop fees for rebalancing.

Kinda trying not to unzip my pants here, and beat you across the face. Ya dig?

Slippery slope, sometimes we need to remember the big picture.

... tell us how you really feel?

... what do you think of bitcoin miners charging transaction fees?

... banksters sucking pennies out of dirt poor people is mostly abhorrent because it is within a monopolised system that offers no competition or alternatives

Re-read the original post and maybe then you will understand.
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October 11, 2021, 11:22:25 PM

Google partners with Bitcoin and crypto marketplace Bakkt.

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Today Bakkt, a Bitcoin and crypto marketplace and custodian, announced a partnership with Google to extend the “reach and usability of digital assets to meet rapidly evolving consumer demand.”

Bakkt users will now be able to add their virtual Visa Debit cards into Google Pay to purchase goods and services in-store and online, wherever Google Pay is accepted. Bitcoin payments will be converted into fiat to make these purchases.


I felt better about Bakkt at the beginning... But I guess I rather this be them than Coinbase at least.
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October 11, 2021, 11:29:58 PM

Case 1: BTC Goes Below 39770 - We are on Red Trend Lines

Case 2: BTC Goes Above 58300 - We are on Green Trend Lines

According to me, we are on Case 2 which shows a Price of $68k on 1st Jan 2022.

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October 11, 2021, 11:30:07 PM

"Oh your Bitcoin channel was deleted?
Just a blip, honestly.
These things 'happen' in any relational database system."




Except they don't.
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October 11, 2021, 11:33:38 PM

But one possible buzzkill.  I am pretty sure RTL shows fees as millisats.  In other words 243600 is 243.6 satoshis.

Yeah, column clearly notes "Fee (mSats)".

It feels very greedy setting a 0 base fee, and then a number of "2500" for the LOOP channel fee-rate mSats, just to keep it somewhat "stable" at this stage, and not bleed me dry.

On the other hand, is earning 243 sats on routing 243600 sats a fair trade? Should I reasonably charge more across the board? Is that too much? Not enough?

Not sure how these questions are answered, yet.

It's getting to the point where I want to reduce the number of times where I update all fees for all channels, then go back and re-micro manage each node - as I've already done.

Eg: WO nodes get really low fees. Other people get another level of standard fee. Big fish get charged a larger fee. Would dislike redoing that all to pull in more profit, without getting a sense of "what is fair to begin with" ?

Sorry, very confusing...

No, that's all good.  I am mixed on my fee taking.  I like the idea of zero base fees in general (http://rene-pickhardt.de/), but go back and forth on the other... right now I have them impossibly low 0/1 almost across the board with a handfull of 0/0 channels.  Might change soon.
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