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Question: Price prediction for the May 21 weekly close:
<$20,000 - 7 (8%)
$20,000 - $22,000 - 0 (0%)
$22,000 - $24,000 - 2 (2.3%)
$24,000 - $26,000 - 3 (3.4%)
$26,000 - $28,000 - 7 (8%)
$28,000 - $30,000 - 12 (13.8%)
$30,000 - $32,000 - 20 (23%)
$32,000 - $34,000 - 8 (9.2%)
$34,000 - $36,000 - 6 (6.9%)
$36,000 - $38,000 - 3 (3.4%)
$38,000 - $40,000 - 2 (2.3%)
>$40,000 - 17 (19.5%)
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Pandora Papers
https://www.icij.org/investigations/pandora-papers/
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The largest investigation in journalism history exposes a shadow financial system that benefits the world’s most rich and powerful

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An estimated US$32 trillion (excluding non-monetary valuables such as real estate, art, and jewelry) may be hidden from being taxed, according to news reports.
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If correct, roughly 32 times the Bitcoin market cap in tax evasion.  Shocked

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Lightning node operators need to patch some vulnerabilities ... now  Cry

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2021-October/003264.html
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It is certainly something I have considered. There are several islands for sale in Panama. Though we are also considering movable versions of our floating homes so that could be a viable solution some day. A floating home that can sit in 5 meter waves allows you to live in a whole lot of places.

I'd imagine there were places with underwater 'islands'. How would those go for attaching seasteading to? Potentially eventually building them up to full islands?

They are called seamounts. And this is the subject of the next adventure that my crazy engineer friend is setting out on (the guy that built the seastead in Thailand).

They are useful because you can anchor on one while still being more than 200 miles from any nation which puts you in international waters.

Without seamounts it requires dynamic positioning systems which require energy.

... he needs to check out the Wanganella Banks, located midway between Australia and New Zealand in the Tasman Sea, international waters

... the sea floor rises up to 10-30 metres beneath sea surface, due to Australia continental plate and Zealandia continent, i.e. mountains on the ocean floor

... has amazing fishing and probably good location for mid-way fibre optic cable station
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October 04, 2021, 09:56:54 PM

About BTC being the greatest currency ever i also have to dissagree. I find Drachma the best currency , its resilliance against time and corruption has been second to none Smiley .

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Lightning node operators need to patch some vulnerabilities ... now  Cry
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2021-October/003264.html

FTCVE:

> Lightning commitment transaction with one of its outputs below the dust
> limit would fail to relay and thus jeopardizes funds safety.


* BobLawblaw looks through his routing logs
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* BobLawblaw shakes angry fist at the fucker that pulled me back into this shit

EDIT: At least Umbrel released a patch. Updating now.
EDIT2: ... and yes, sounding like a melodramatic bitch, my logs show many transfers below the dust limit, FWIW. Not sure what this means to my balance, as everything in the Lightning channels seems to be in some fucked up quantum state.
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https://coinquora.com/brazil-set-to-adopt-bitcoin-as-its-legal-tender/

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The debate for a digital asset adoption in Brazil started a few years back. Today, the Brazilian government is on the verge of finalizing plans with the aid of the Central Bank. Brazil’s Federal Deputy, Aurero Ribeiro has noted in an interview that Brazilians will soon be able to buy houses, cars, and even McDonald’s with Bitcoin after the approval of its law.

... more detail in this article but still pretty sketchy on what is actually being proposed here
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October 04, 2021, 10:42:52 PM

Some guy on a car forum is telling me some shit about how I should only buy a used car that is certified inspected or I should pay for a ppi (pre purchase inspection) from a dealer to .. LOL .. “mitigate risk” he says..

Bless his heart.. I know he means well..

I just want to be like “Bro, I’m a risk junkie.. I HODL Bitcoin”..
“I lost more money than I’m about to pay for this car already 100 days this year”


I just mentioned this in a post here not to long ago..

Does Bitcoin desensitize us to risk?
Why are normies so risk adverse??

Like seriously.. Normies are incredibly risk adverse in everything in their lives..
Why?
I don’t get it..
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Does Bitcoin desensitize us to risk?

I would argue, based on personal experience: No. It does not desensitize you to risk. May have the opposite effect and make you more risk averse.
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My desire for btc going above 55K and thereby f-ing that loud mouth "bear" Gareth Soloway might be considered schadenfreude, right?  Grin
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Some guy on a car forum is telling me some shit about how I should only buy a used car that is certified inspected or I should pay for a ppi (pre purchase inspection) from a dealer to .. LOL .. “mitigate risk” he says..

Bless his heart.. I know he means well..

I just want to be like “Bro, I’m a risk junkie.. I HODL Bitcoin”..
“I lost more money than I’m about to pay for this car already 100 days this year”


I just mentioned this in a post here not to long ago..

Does Bitcoin desensitize us to risk?
Why are normies so risk adverse??

Like seriously.. Normies are incredibly risk adverse in everything in their lives..
Why?
I don’t get it..

I agree and understand how you may well consider bitcoin to be and to have been a risky investment; however, at the same time, I believe that there are ways to invest into bitcoin that cause it to be less risky than a whole hell-of-a-lot of other kinds of investments.

I also agree and understand that people vary in their readiness, willingness and abilities to embark upon risk, and frequently younger persons are more willing to take risks than older persons, and if we are getting back to bitcoin, the kinds of risk are both financial and psychological, but at the same time, again, I believe that there are strategies to account for your level of risk tolerance and to plan and create approaches that account for your individual situation when it comes to risk as one of the individualized factors that you should consider when or if you are going to invest into bitcoin.

Does Bitcoin desensitize us to risk?

I would argue, based on personal experience: No. It does not desensitize you to risk. May have the opposite effect and make you more risk averse.

Actually, there might be truth to this comment too.

Surely bitcoin has had a volatile history, and so when going through investing into bitcoin, if you are considering that bitcoin is causing you to increase your risk exposure, then like Bawb indicated, that increase in your risk exposure, might cause you to lessen your risk in other areas of your life.

Another thing could be true too.. Many of us likely recall how frequently and extensively Bawb was whining like a little baby during bitcoin's price drop in 2018 and perhaps extending into 2019, so those kinds of behaviors could serve as some kinds of evidence that BTC HODLers sometime might need to either get to a certain level of profitability before they start to feel that they are comfortable enough with their investment in order that the investment sends them back into risk taking grounds... so in some sense there could be some psychological elements in the expectations for profits, but if any of us become overinvested and we expect BTC's price direction ONLY to go in one way - which is UPpity, then we might start to whine like a little baby when the price goes against our expectations.

Personally, I prefer to create somewhat low expectations, including the way that I had ended up approaching my bitcoin investment. 

So when I got into bitcoin, I was wanting to get an average of at least 6% per year CAGR.... and maybe it did take me a few years of investing into bitcoin before it started to meet and exceed those first set expectations, so thereafter, I have been ready, willing and able to increase my expectations, even though my current approach of using the 208-week and the 104-week moving averages as my BTC bottom measuring points is still a pretty damned conservative  way of attempting to look at BTC, so in that sense, I feel that my ongoing investment into bitcoin really can allow me to be way the hell more risk taking - because the BTC price is way above and beyond either the 208-week moving average (currently about $16k) or the 104-week moving average (currently approaching $24,500).  What I am suggesting that those BTC bottom measuring prices are so damned far above my even loosest of average cost per BTC (which could be proclaimed to be around $1k), so that being at least 16x or 24.5x in profits by using the bottom prices or even close to 50x in profits if we use our current spot prices, as I type this post, causes a whole hell of a lot of financial and psychological comfort, so in that regard, the comfort levels can contribute to willingness to be risk-taking in other areas.... except for the problem if many of us might feel either super richie, approaching fuck you richie or above and beyond fuck you status, and therefore, we might choose NOT to take risks with certain aspects of our health because we may well feel that we have a lot of reasons to both live and not to injure ourselves because we have a decent amount that we could lose in a kind of opportunity cost way if we were to cause unnecessary damages upon our lil selfies. 
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October 05, 2021, 01:58:42 AM

Does Bitcoin desensitize us to risk?

I would argue, based on personal experience: No. It does not desensitize you to risk. May have the opposite effect and make you more risk averse.

It might desensitize you to volatility in crypto, but that’s about it from my experience. I’m used to the daily swings now. Losses that would have caused me to lose sleep and have a panic attack 10 years ago only bring a smirk to my face now. It does seem limited to crypto though. If my stock portfolio dips by a % point I feel like I have to eat ramen.
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A few interesting points, also in relation to Bitcoin: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/zerohedge/feed/~3/fOCe0MbqMqg/luongo-energy-subsidies-bitcoin-socialist-takeover-isnt

More entertaining thoughts: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/zerohedge/feed/~3/g7mqPdttva8/hedge-fund-cio-chinas-attempt-crush-digital-assets-has-backfired-spectacularly
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