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90,000 - 3 (4.4%)
100,000 - 4 (5.9%)
125,000 - 12 (17.6%)
150,000 - 5 (7.4%)
175,000 - 2 (2.9%)
200,000 - 2 (2.9%)
225,000 - 5 (7.4%)
250,000 - 4 (5.9%)
275,000 - 1 (1.5%)
300,000 - 0 (0%)
>300,000 - 8 (11.8%)
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just sold a piece for 60k


Good for you!!! Don't listen to these "BagHoldersForLifeShills!".  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy

Last time it was $63-64K..... I sold as well and bought me some Doge & other dog meme coins.

But I knew last time it had to be a big correction. This time the correction will be max at $52K. If it dips at $54K I think u can safely catch that price, if it doesn't go up now too much or too fast. But to be honest, I don't see it going too much over 70K in October. Maybe next month, but after the correction at $52K < > $55K (depending on how high it goes.).  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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Yeah, well, I am not the most articulate at times.  You are correct that I have never been anywhere close to All-Inn on BTC.  I would never be All-Inn on any asset.  Even the Apex Asset, because I do not know what will happen.  When BTC price runs up so fast, as it does from time-to-time, I have a self-imposed duty to slice off small parts of my BTC stack, BTC could go to $0 and I would still be WAY ahead.

Re other your other comments on my post, I was just demonstrating that I would be a terrible trader, my (short-term) timing is terrible.  I tell people who know me that they could make money taking the other side of any trades I make.

JJG, you (and various others here) have added value to my life, by passing along wisdom and great info (as did Bob re pointing me to Gemini).  Please, all my brothers & sisters here, do not get the impression that I am in any way anti-Bitcoin, most assuredly not.  I am thankful to you all for your aid in helping me attain stronger financial independence.  

Evidently my thinking is very different than most have here at W.O.

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I ran into a couple of interesting articles by Alexandar Svetski via https://bitbo.io, a nice site that offers links to Bitcoin Magazine articles.  The below two discuss how Bitcoin Maximalists are doing huge favors to our community:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/how-toxic-bitcoiners-are-protecting-ideals

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/bitcoiners-are-the-remnant

I am quite sympathetic to Bitcoin Maximalism, it's just that I am not there (I do eschew schnittcoins though), I do accept that most here at W.O. are way ahead of me in Bitcoin knowledge, and that's as it should be.  I don't mine, I don't program, I did not even start with BTC until ~2014.

Svetski discusses the notion that Bitcoiners are a "Remnant", in that the Remnant is forming a core of HODLers that will eventually bring in the Masses.  Svetski sees NO NEED to try and convince others to buy Bitcoin.  The Masses will come of their volition in due course.  Svetski also shows that members of the Remnant expect the best from their friends, and offer their best to them as well -- something I do see here at W.O.

Of special interest to me was his observation that members of the Remnant will find each other, once again in due course.  In my own case, I found many Remnant members HERE at W.O. in my own rambles about the Internet (researching BTC).  I was not dragged here..., the Remnant found me.

Svetski seems to be onto something.  Highly recommended.



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October 16, 2021, 04:18:55 AM

If I sold a piece every time philipma sold a piece, I'd be... well, broke and not bitcoin rich.

Maybe rich, but Bitcoin poor

Few understand what’s more important

will sell another piece based on this advice.


If I sell 0.003 each and every day of the month It comes to 30 x 0.003 = 0.09 a month

If  I earn .14 btc a month I am stacking 0.05 a month.

I am fine with this.

The mine keeps growing and I keep getting more btc in earnings each month.

Eventually the difficulties will go through the roof but I 3x the size of the mine this year so it works for me and my partners.

It seems some people don't understand you're running a business here. Hard to expand the business if you don't spend some revenue on increasing infrastructure. And if you didn't expand, your stack would be much smaller than it is now.

Bingo. Exactly this. I have a good power deal. I am nowhere near capacity and I expand the mine buying gear as dca.

I buy on credit when coins dip like the 30 k drop in the summer.

When coins go up 40k 50k 60k I sell some btc.

This mine started with four s9s in dec 2018. that is 36th.

on the btc side it is now over 1700th (4 people in on it)

since we do not talk shit coins I won’t say the amount of  gpus and the L3+ ‘s

But we have quite a few.

We would not be growing the farm without plowing back some coin.

Since times are good I sell some coin to pay the credit off and also get some gear with out credit.

You and your partners have done very well. Going from 36 to 1700 is pretty awesome.

I would like to start a mining business myself, but there is no way in my country to get power cheap enough. When I get a rural property I will reconsider it if it is economic to run off solar in my location.
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Just sold 0.00656btc to my brother's FOMOing friend at $61.5k to buy new tires for my ATV.

Is rubber a good commodity to invest some of my profits in?  Cool

Rubber is a good thing to have for an ATV - especially if you want to drive on something other than rims.  Last time I checked rims do not get very good traction, they leave for an uncomfortable ride and they are expensive in terms of wear (in the event that you are driving on them).

What I find odd is that alts are doing nothing. ETC is not climbing like this and LTC is at .003 to Bitcoin. It's been .004 all summer and was around .01 last year.

So there is a decoupling here. Odd.

Not odd.

A good thing.. at least while it lasts.

If I sold a piece every time philipma sold a piece, I'd be... well, broke and not bitcoin rich.

Maybe rich, but Bitcoin poor

Few understand what’s more important

will sell another piece based on this advice.


If I sell 0.003 each and every day of the month It comes to 30 x 0.003 = 0.09 a month

If  I earn .14 btc a month I am stacking 0.05 a month.

I am fine with this.


Not wanting to be denigrating but could be part of the reason that you are still even thinking about having to stack when you are in your mid-60s as if stacking were to even matter... .. including the fact that there could have likely been more aggressive stacking earlier on..

but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do..   each person has a different situation.

The mine keeps growing and I keep getting more btc in earnings each month.

For sure you have to compete against yourself in terms of what seems to be practical and prudent for you.

Eventually the difficulties will go through the roof but I 3x the size of the mine this year so it works for me and my partners.

Well then you won't be able to stack at all... so merely stacking .05BTC per month does not seem very aggressive.. but hey what do I know about you and your situation.. ?

If I sold a piece every time philipma sold a piece, I'd be... well, broke and not bitcoin rich.

Maybe rich, but Bitcoin poor

Few understand what’s more important
will sell another piece based on this advice.
will buy another piece based on this advice.

Good you should since you are doing buy and hodl why not.

The formula for buying and selling is not that much different in terms of wanting to error on the side of stacking sats fairly aggressively until you are quite overallocated, reach fuck you status or something in which you clearly have fuck you status in the sights... so yeah, you do have to sell some BTC if you are mining.. but still gotta be careful NOT to oversell.
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If I sold a piece every time philipma sold a piece, I'd be... well, broke and not bitcoin rich.

Maybe rich, but Bitcoin poor

Few understand what’s more important

will sell another piece based on this advice.


If I sell 0.003 each and every day of the month It comes to 30 x 0.003 = 0.09 a month

If  I earn .14 btc a month I am stacking 0.05 a month.

I am fine with this.

The mine keeps growing and I keep getting more btc in earnings each month.

Eventually the difficulties will go through the roof but I 3x the size of the mine this year so it works for me and my partners.

It seems some people don't understand you're running a business here. Hard to expand the business if you don't spend some revenue on increasing infrastructure. And if you didn't expand, your stack would be much smaller than it is now.

Yes...

Exactly.. difficult for some of us to understand.

just sold a piece for 60k


Good for you!!! Don't listen to these "BagHoldersForLifeShills!".  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy

Last time it was $63-64K..... I sold as well and bought me some Doge & other dog meme coins.

But I knew last time it had to be a big correction. This time the correction will be max at $52K. If it dips at $54K I think u can safely catch that price, if it doesn't go up now too much or too fast. But to be honest, I don't see it going too much over 70K in October. Maybe next month, but after the correction at $52K < > $55K (depending on how high it goes.).  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

If any of us (the royal us, included) followed your advices and prognostications we would be poor as fuck...

So good thing that your gibberish hardly makes any senses...   doesn't resonate....

hahahahaha

#nohomo.

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If you want it to be easy to follow which link that you are referring to, it is likely better to quote from it, rather than providing the post count  - like this:

[used to be contents here]

It would be more clear - because the post count will change  with the passage of time.. especially when previous posts are deleted.. which does happen from time to time.. take Bawb going on a post-deleting spree (about two years ago - something like that when he was throwing a kind of temper tantrum) in which he deleted thousands of his old posts in this thread and that not only screwed up the post numbers, the number of pages in the thread, but it sometimes delinked previous references to those earlier deleted posts... .. anyhow quoting the earlier post is better than stating the post number that might be currently valid but will likely change in the future...

Yeah, well, I am not the most articulate at times.  You are correct that I have never been anywhere close to All-Inn on BTC.  I would never be All-Inn on any asset.  Even the Apex Asset, because I do not know what will happen.  When BTC price runs up so fast, as it does from time-to-time, I have a self-imposed duty to slice off small parts of my BTC stack, BTC could go to $0 and I would still be WAY ahead.

For sure, I don't mind that we have differing ways of looking at these matters, and for sure this is a bitcoin-orient thread, so sometimes you just seem to be out of touch with overarching ideas in bitcoin including various currently credible bitcoin prediction models that should also help to inform your thinking and your way of talking about your ideas in bitcoin...

Sure bitcoin could go to zero.. but we are quite far from that even being much of any kind of meaningful or reasonable possibility that should get more than a cursory consideration.

In other words, we should be planning for and preparing for more likely scenarios rather than outlier scenarios, so even continuing to mention that bitcoin could go to zero seems to put you quite far out of touch in matching your semantics to what is really happening in these here parts of the economy.,. referring to bitcoinlandia... #justsaying.

 Tongue Tongue


Re other your other comments on my post, I was just demonstrating that I would be a terrible trader, my (short-term) timing is terrible.  I tell people who know me that they could make money taking the other side of any trades I make.

Fair enough...


But not too many folks in this thread are really into trading even though we are looking at charts nearly 24/7/365 just to see where our lil buddy is at.... at any given moment.

Most guys here are of the buy, accumulate and HODL mentality as well as considering the cycles.. and including a few that skim here and there and maybe consider selling some on the way up at various points along the way.. sure..

JJG, you (and various others here) have added value to my life, by passing along wisdom and great info (as did Bob re pointing me to Gemini).  

For sure, it is a great place to share information, even if we don't always agree and some of us are going to want to beat up on others from time to time, too  - especially if they are saying things that might be misleading.. and frequently it is not a personal thing, either since I do believe that you are genuinely posting matters from your own practices, and sometimes some of us disagree with how you are handling some of the matters.. while of course acknowledging that you have full and complete discretion regarding how you manage your portfolio to the extent it contains any BTC.


Please, all my brothers & sisters here, do not get the impression that I am in any way anti-Bitcoin, most assuredly not.  I am thankful to you all for your aid in helping me attain stronger financial independence.  

No need to worry ORO.. we can battle it out from time to time... especially when you are getting out of line and telling us to buy gold or something like that... hahahahaha


Evidently my thinking is very different than most have here at W.O.

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Can't disagree with you on that part, but still does not hurt to have your perspective, even if we might not agree on all things.

I ran into a couple of interesting articles by Alexandar Svetski via https://bitbo.io, a nice site that offers links to Bitcoin Magazine articles.  The below two discuss how Bitcoin Maximalists are doing huge favors to our community:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/how-toxic-bitcoiners-are-protecting-ideals

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/bitcoiners-are-the-remnant

I am quite sympathetic to Bitcoin Maximalism, it's just that I am not there (I do eschew schnittcoins though), I do accept that most here at W.O. are way ahead of me in Bitcoin knowledge, and that's as it should be.  I don't mine, I don't program, I did not even start with BTC until ~2014.

No need to state any pledge of allegiance.  You started way earlier than many of us here.. Sure I started in late 2013 and registered my forum account in early 2014.. and I have spent a lot of time on bitcoin.. but at the same time.. each of us are going to have our own various experiences in which we can share and sometimes disagree.. no problema...

Svetski discusses the notion that Bitcoiners are a "Remnant", in that the Remnant is forming a core of HODLers that will eventually bring in the Masses.  Svetski sees NO NEED to try and convince others to buy Bitcoin.  The Masses will come of their volition in due course.  Svetski also shows that members of the Remnant expect the best from their friends, and offer their best to them as well -- something I do see here at W.O.

Of special interest to me was his observation that members of the Remnant will find each other, once again in due course.  In my own case, I found many Remnant members HERE at W.O. in my own rambles about the Internet (researching BTC).  I was not dragged here..., the Remnant found me.

Svetski seems to be onto something.  Highly recommended.

Seems like a fair synopsis...
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Looks like the market has caught it's breath and is ready to go after the ATH...  The mempool is empty so everyone's coins are sitting on exchanges and the strong hands are ready to scoop them up and carry us higher.  I suspect after a little morning dump as people wake up to their coins being on exchanges, we'll be ready to rip.  The weekend might delay things a few days, but I don't see the current all time high lasting longer than Tuesday.  A six digit Bitcoin price feels locked in, which is insane because that's like a trillion dollars in added market cap...
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Grayscale plans on filing an application to convert the world’s biggest bitcoin fund into a spot ETF early next week.

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 It's as though I'm listening to the history of BTC vs USD in that song.  The covid March 2020 dip starts at 5:55 - quick recovery though Smiley
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Perhaps the wrong time but I couldn't help but nibble up a 0,1 coin this morning. It doesn't add much to my stash but it saves my savings account's value from depleting even further.

I'm getting more bullish on BTC by the day with all the signals we are getting.

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Paypal are now custodians of BTC here in the UK and they prominently advertise that on their home page. PayPal's value is rocketing, this is no coincidence, also considering it no longer needs eBay.
It is only a matter of time before all banks get into this game. They will HAVE to!

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Reports of second hand car values going up today in the UK have recently hit the headlines.
How I see it:
I bought my 2016 SUV car for £27,500. The second hand value after 5 1/2 years driving 30K miles is £20,000 minimum. That would be an extraordinary good value retention compared to previous cars I've owned over that sort of period. I could only shift my pervious car for only about 10% of its value after 8 years.
If you want one those cars I own new now, you are looking at £40K!

This doesn't mean "second hand car values are going up", it means fiat is utter dog shit as its value is going down to the Mariana Trench and everyone knows it.

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Safe figures of BTC at $500-600k by 2030 as quoted by InvestAnswers I think are in fact very bearish.

This thing is going to 2-5 million by then, perhaps even more.

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Things might seem cosy and fine for some like it was on the Titanic until the last hour before it sank, but all the financial news points into one direction and one direction only:
There are lifeboats waiting. Are you going to get on board or sink with the Fiatanic?



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