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December 18, 2013, 01:29:02 AM
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what's worrying me is when they start arbing on gox..
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December 18, 2013, 01:29:27 AM
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Lots of resistance preventing a new 24-Hour Low.  Tongue

its called support if its supporting the price, resistance if it in the way of the price while rise

yes, nice to see that after dump like that and china $565 other exchanges doesnt follow, not yet at least

We are all going to have to just stop and wait for China to get this out of their system. They were well behaved over there in the East until we hit around $250. Then they had to go ape shit beserko and drag everyone with them to $900. We would have all gotten there eventually - just maybe a week later or something. NOW, they got their hand slapped and they have been sulking ever since, crying their selves to sleep every night.

Who knows when they will pull their heads up and calm down again. Meanwhile we get to all watch them run down hill like their pants are on fire and there's water at the bottom.
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December 18, 2013, 01:30:26 AM
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what's worrying me is when they start arbing on gox..

nobody wants goxbux Cheesy
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December 18, 2013, 01:32:21 AM
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I miss you, fair price

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December 18, 2013, 01:33:19 AM
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This is like a several week consolidation process, in which the Chinese panic dump their bitcoins and the rest of the world scoops them up at a discount.  

Eventually, the Chinese panic will subside.  Every Chinaman who wants to get out will be out.  Then the train will roll on...



 Cheesy
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December 18, 2013, 01:33:28 AM
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Probably the tinfoil hat talking but there seems to be a fair amount of trading that's taking a loss to push lower. Long term bear maybe but it coincides with European timezones and Europe could be due some bad news tomorrow:
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/financial-services/eu-agrees-bail-in-rules-for-deposits-1.1626033

News like this usually sends the price rocketting.

Yep,real 'to da moon' stuff. That's what makes me wonder if someone's willing to throw away a lot of coins to make the charts look bad for anyone looking for a route to safety. Even I know 'sell low' isn't how its usually done, at least not in the short term, but that's what seems to be happening on the lows. That should cause spikes if it wants to go down but the spikes are upwards, hard to be sure though because there's also a lot of negative slippage in both directions.

Probably the tinfoil hat talking but there seems to be a fair amount of trading that's taking a loss to push lower. Long term bear maybe but it coincides with European timezones and Europe could be due some bad news tomorrow:
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/financial-services/eu-agrees-bail-in-rules-for-deposits-1.1626033
News like this usually sends the price rocketting.
A Bail-In means Banks will confiscate depositors accounts right? (As Gerald Celente and Max Keiser have been predicting) That will just make Crypto-Currencies that more attractive no?

Yes but its not planned for implementation until 2016. That figure doesn't mean a whole lot, if it passes there's little to stop it being brought forward, but its a nice comfortable looking 'long way away' figure for the media.

Bail in, what a stupid set of words. It is really the forced bailout of the insolvent bank by the depositors.

How should it be done in an ideal world, if a bank goes titsup?

First, the share holders should lose. The equity is the money that is set at risk. It is the shareholders that gets the profit if it goes well,  and they should lose first.

Then the bondholders, the depositors and other creditors should share the rest of the loss, just what happens in a bankruptcy in any firm. If there is nothing left, the bank disappears from the scene.

There is no fundamental difference between bond holders and depositors. Both are loans to the bank, there are just some differences in the interest and the payback conditions. Mainly, the difference is that the depositors can ask for payback on demand, while bonds are paid back at a specific time in the future.

The workers at the bank, including management should all lose their jobs and a part of their not yet paid salary just like any creditor. Only if some private investors decide to recapitalize the bank, the bank could continue operating, and the old workers could continue in their jobs if and only if the new owners want them to. In case of top management, they should almost always have to go, as they obviously did a measly job.

Wait - the depositor guarantee. That should obviously be honored to the extent that the guarantee fund is sufficiently large, it is part of the deposit deal - you give the money to the bank in exchange for a claim on the bank plus an insurance.

The problem is the government guarantee in addition to the fund, and the fact that they prioritize the bondholders to avoid spreading to the bondholders of other banks, and of course the government bailout (this is what they want to avoid with the new plans).

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December 18, 2013, 01:36:14 AM
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This is like a several week consolidation process, in which the Chinese panic dump their bitcoins and the rest of the world scoops them up at a discount.  

Eventually, the Chinese panic will subside.  Every Chinaman who wants to get out will be out.  Then the train will roll on...



 Cheesy

Only very slow and old trains can go on the railway showed on your picture.
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December 18, 2013, 01:37:26 AM
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This is like a several week consolidation process, in which the Chinese panic dump their bitcoins and the rest of the world scoops them up at a discount.  

Eventually, the Chinese panic will subside.  Every Chinaman who wants to get out will be out.  Then the train will roll on...



 Cheesy

Only very slow and old trains can go on the railway showed on your picture.

bitcoin slow is 10000% in a year Grin
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December 18, 2013, 01:39:30 AM
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what is up with these constant 0.2 sells on gox?

Bot, one started about an hour and a half ago with increasing amounts to simulate this 'crash'. Getting old now but noobs still fall for it. They're losing their coins to a smarter whale atm so might see a few less of them for a while at least.

that's crazy, god I hate manipulation
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December 18, 2013, 01:40:22 AM
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And where we are heading:

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December 18, 2013, 01:43:47 AM
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And where we are heading:



Single digits bro??  $2 bitcoins by Saturday?

lmao
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December 18, 2013, 01:44:53 AM
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It seems impossible to get actual verifiable information on what is happening with various governmental regulations and Bitcoin.  

Does anyone KNOW what the Chinese government has done, or are we still in complete rumor territory, or are we somewhere in between?


The decision was just as indefinite as from any other government, no big deal in my view. But the market decides, and it decided to go down. Nothing to do about it but wait.
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December 18, 2013, 01:48:38 AM
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Single digits bro??  $2 bitcoins by Saturday?

lmao

$0.618
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December 18, 2013, 01:49:09 AM
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I miss you, ridiculously low price



ftfy  Smiley
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December 18, 2013, 01:50:17 AM
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Single digits bro??  $2 bitcoins by Saturday?

lmao

$0.618

Lucky if you can get a pizza for 10k bitcoins by Monday.   Get out while you can.
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December 18, 2013, 01:50:31 AM
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Bearish cross approaching on the 4hr....ignore at your peril.
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December 18, 2013, 01:56:04 AM
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December 18, 2013, 01:59:12 AM
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Just for memory.



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December 18, 2013, 02:03:58 AM
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lmao
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December 18, 2013, 02:08:40 AM
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Last Warning? ;-)
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