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Nobody can find/pin down the dude spot….?

Last Hint (Easy)…. Sly waiting for The Dude and Co…



 OMG!  I recognize "barramundi" from the "Crocodile Dundee" movie.  You guys are Down Under!  G'day mates!





Well I got the water part.
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The Bitcoin hash rate is behaving as a leading indicator.

That's chart is telling us something new. We’re entering a cycle unlike anything in Bitcoin’s 16-year history.



ETFs (BlackRock, Fidelity, etc.) unlocked Bitcoin to institutional capital flows, creating persistent buy pressure.

Nation-states aren’t trading they’re mining and stockpiling.

Corporate treasuries are starting to act like long-term holders, not speculators.

Bitcoin strategic reserves and energy-backed mining by states (e.g., Texas, Russia, Middle East) point to price-insensitive miners.

Miners themselves are not selling as much as they used to. Some of them are using the MSTR playbook and are issuing debt to buy more Bitcoin.

Historically, miners reacted to price — purely profit-driven behavior.

But now:

Nations and large corps mine to accumulate BTC without having to buy it on the open market (to avoid price slippage or political visibility).

They are not just mining for profit today. They are Hedging fiat debasement. Gaining geopolitical leverage (e.g., Russia/Iran mining BTC to bypass SWIFT or US sanctions). Securing access to a finite asset before hyper-adoption

These miners don’t care if the immediate price is $83K or $109K — they expect $500K+ in 2–5 years. They are deploying capital and energy now, front-running that future. Hence: hash rate rises, even if price temporarily cools.

So what is the Bitcoin hash rate telling us?
1) There is growing long-term conviction.
2) Capital is being deployed based on future price expectations, not current profitability.
3) Miners believe the next leg up is imminent — and permanent.

This is not just a short-term speculative response to price volatility. It’s a strategic positioning ahead of what many believe will be Bitcoin’s move from a $1.6T asset to a $10T+ asset class.

My thesis is that the Hash Rate is evolving from a lagging to a leading indicator.

In the past we saw Hash rate sometimes lag price in retail-driven markets - as Bitcoin price goes up, it becomes more profitable to mine it, attracting more miners, which then leads to higher hash rate.

Now hash rate is behaving as a leading indicator, because miner behavior is driven by long-term confidence, not short-term profit margins. This trend of hash rate leading price is likely to continue growing.

The price will have to follow soon. Why you may ask? well, lets assume it doesn't, lets assume price stays flat or goes down:

Less efficient miners will get squeezed, but state-level miners or corps with cheap energy won’t blink.

These price insensitive miners are likely using subsidized energy (stranded hydro, flared gas, renewables during off-peak hours).

So hash rate may not come down at all — and price may simply have to adjust upward to reflect the pressure building under the surface.

It’s the same dynamic as spot ETF inflows outpacing new issuance — it’s price-insensitive accumulation.

Imagine a nation-state with 5 gigawatts of surplus energy — they’re not mining for USD profit today, they’re converting stranded electrons into a hard monetary asseer t with potential global reserve currency status.

That's not mining; that's stealth strategic asset acquisition. This is hash rate front-running hyperbitcoinization.

Take a look at the chart below. Around Feb 2025, we saw a decoupling of hash rate vs price, same as we saw in July 2024, and before that in Aug 2022. What followed in 2022 and 2024 was price catching up to the hash rate. The same will happen in 2025, price will have no choice but to catch up.

Anyone disagrees?



https://x.com/MrLuisMarques/status/1908429913931014297


Hash is now going to lead price.  Hmm sounds like cycles are over if you are correct. Also sounds like btc will need to double twice in  under 5 years.

So 164 then 328 by 2029.

Or we are fucked when it comes to btc.

Maybe if I ever hold my coins I could make a million
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April 05, 2025, 04:56:13 PM

Scott Bessent worked for Soros and helped architect the moves hat resulted in Black Wednesday in Great Britain.


Such interesting times.
Thought Trump's regime hated the Sorosman, head of the white council. Musky cheerleaders are in shambles..
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Nobody can find/pin down the dude spot….?

Last Hint (Easy)…. Sly waiting for The Dude and Co…



 OMG!  I recognize "barramundi" from the "Crocodile Dundee" movie.  You guys are Down Under!  G'day mates!





Well I got the water part.

Oh yeah, sorry, it's the Love.Fish restaurant Bangaragaroo or something like that.  I'm on the road now so I don't have the info in front of me.  You pretty much just have to turn around in the second photo to see the eatery.
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Interesting as I have a strong suspicion that that whole thing was orchestrated to give funds to Soros. Trump definitely doesn't have the best record on picking people.
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April 05, 2025, 05:54:27 PM

A picture that tells a thousand words




And yet is mostly meaningless without 5-10 of them.




In a word.

Bitcoin Dominance.

That's two words.

Which makes my line above overly generous with the requirement for adding meaning, in fact.
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Scott Bessent worked for Soros and helped architect the moves hat resulted in Black Wednesday in Great Britain.

Such interesting times.

Apparently he's already looking for an escape hatch : https://newrepublic.com/post/193634/donald-trump-treasury-scott-bessent-tariffs-quit
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It also brought back another memory from that same summer when one of the normally quiet older guys met me on the way out of work and said, "You stupid fucking cunt!  That job is supposed to take all shift!" because I mistakenly thought had finished the job I was given and went back to my supervisor to let him know and ask for more work.  That's a story for another day though.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the flashback. 


Reminds me of a probationary job for the electric company I didn't get hired for because I refused to stretch a hour and a half meter reading job into an 8 hour day during an audit.

Yes this is one of a million ways the utility companies are fucking us and I refused to be a part of it.
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April 05, 2025, 07:00:07 PM

China fires back with an additional 34% tariffs on all American imports.

Stock markets taking another major hit.

Bitcoin still holding above $80k, perhaps this time -for real- it will decouple from stocks ore i'm just a gullible retard.

Edit: Bloodbath for U.S, fingers crossed if Bitcoin won't tank to $70k range.


Bitcoin price will eventually recover in the long run, no matter how much dip it take now.

If Bitcoin goes further down, I will buy more. If it goes up I will HODL. It's really that simple.

#HODL In a nutshell.

Is it only my impression or does Bitcoin hold up quite well while stonks are tanking a few percent?
Didn't pay much attention lately, being busy.

For last one month, Bitcoin price mostly is in window of 80 to 90k$.

You are right, Bitcoin is holding the fort against price crash.

 
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It also brought back another memory from that same summer when one of the normally quiet older guys met me on the way out of work and said, "You stupid fucking cunt!  That job is supposed to take all shift!" because I mistakenly thought had finished the job I was given and went back to my supervisor to let him know and ask for more work.  That's a story for another day though.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the flashback.  


Reminds me of a probationary job for the electric company I didn't get hired for because I refused to stretch a hour and a half meter reading job into an 8 hour day during an audit.

Yes this is one of a million ways the utility companies are fucking us and I refused to be a part of it.

 Well, I should elaborate then.  It wasn't exactly like that - I basically followed the guy for a couple of shifts and emulated what he did.  What I didn't know was that there were other "time-permitting" tasks which I didn't know were required (how could I have if I hadn't seen them being done).  One of the most fun was using a machine to clean and polish the floors in certain common areas.  It was so satisfying to see the floor gleaming when I finished.  After I was properly trained, I could easily stay occupied for the shift but I might have overdone the floor polishing as I would occasionally here some of the workers muttering, "Again?  Didn't he do that last night?  Stupid fucking cunt!"
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It also brought back another memory from that same summer when one of the normally quiet older guys met me on the way out of work and said, "You stupid fucking cunt!  That job is supposed to take all shift!" because I mistakenly thought had finished the job I was given and went back to my supervisor to let him know and ask for more work.  That's a story for another day though.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the flashback.  


Reminds me of a probationary job for the electric company I didn't get hired for because I refused to stretch a hour and a half meter reading job into an 8 hour day during an audit.

Yes this is one of a million ways the utility companies are fucking us and I refused to be a part of it.

 Well, I should elaborate then.  It wasn't exactly like that - I basically followed the guy for a couple of shifts and emulated what he did.  What I didn't know was that there were other "time-permitting" tasks which I didn't know were required (how could I have if I hadn't seen them being done).  One of the most fun was using a machine to clean and polish the floors in certain common areas.  It was so satisfying to see the floor gleaming when I finished.  After I was properly trained, I could easily stay occupied for the shift but I might have overdone the floor polishing as I would occasionally here some of the workers muttering, "Again?  Didn't he do that last night?  Stupid fucking cunt!"


Oh yeah, another thing they tried to do is force me to give 10% of my paycheck to the united way.

When I refused they still literally forced me to give one dollar a month for them to keep their "united way certification" or some such shit.

When I looked into it it turns out Barbara Bush was the CEO and pulling in a cool 1/4 million a year from the untied way,  Just another way the .1% bleed us dry.

This was when Bush Senior was President.
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Maybe if I ever hold my coins I could make a million

You can't figure out how to HODL though.

That's part of the problem.

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It tells 1001 words then:

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Pretty poor design, though, maybe it was intended?
Seems like the designer's salary was not high enough, so he made the fish look like a fat, sloppy dick   Tongue
(Balls included in the price)
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Scott Bessent worked for Soros and helped architect the moves hat resulted in Black Wednesday in Great Britain.


Such interesting times.

Such interesting sources  Wink
I don't want to google that up for hours, do you have a link to a more detailed story handy?

I apologize for my lack of sources... but as a pseudonymous jackass on the interfangle you should trust exactly zero of what I have to say (including the following) and DYOR.  So I commend you on your dubiosity.

So various editorial opinions on Bessent's involment in Back Wednesday differ...  And Google will fill out all the nuance there, as I will not..   but in the Wikipedia page about him it states:

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In 1992, Bessent was a leading member of the team whose bet on the Black Wednesday collapse of the British pound garnered over $1 billion for the firm. His bet against the Japanese yen in 2013 brought additional profit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Bessent


So, in my opinion either Bessent is a plant (along with Trump) or has pivoted to a new goal.  

I have no idea which it is.  But I hope for the latter, since if it is the former, their plan is being executed perfectly, and we are fucked to the extreme.
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