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[fonsie]

does anyone else experience this 'gray rectangle' problem?

it occurs only in this thread as far as I can tell.
looks like some chrome bug in relation to images.

I have a similar problem but the grey part is at the bottom instead of to the right.  I use Fedora on Linux, but the problem only occurs in this forum.  

The bug appared when the forum started using an image service (imgur) to store and "sanitize" images.  It may have to do with the size of the file and the speed of the internet connection to the source where the image is uploaded from; basically there is an insufficient timeout somewhere along that path, and the file gets truncated.  Reducing the image size usually helps.  Try saving as JPEG format with quality 80 or less; it may get a bit fuzzy, but then you can wrap it in a link to the full version.

It is rumoured than, when the bitcoin price will reach 10'000 USD, the admins will be able to afford to hire a teenage programmer to fix this bug (and re-enable the uploading of avatars).

IT'S A LINUX BUG, mr Stolfi

Linux bug planted by the NSA

More specifically a Chrome on Linux OS bug, no sign of it on Windows. It's also not just missing parts of the image, it's also blocking text content and they move.

But only bitcoiners experience this problem. Oh, and trolls.

Easy fix is to ignore NotLambchop.

EDIT: Hmmm, now I'm having doubts, perhaps it's only a Chrome bug and I just didn't experience it anymore because I ignored NotLambchop.
Either way there's an easy fix.

[Eddie Brock]

Serious question:

What's the "fair price" of one bitcoin? and how do you arrive to that conclusion?

[sonofliberty]

Serious question:

What's the "fair price" of one bitcoin?

12 Dollars.

[shmadz]

does anyone else experience this 'gray rectangle' problem?

it occurs only in this thread as far as I can tell.
looks like some chrome bug in relation to images.

I have a similar problem but the grey part is at the bottom instead of to the right.  I use Fedora on Linux, but the problem only occurs in this forum.  

The bug appared when the forum started using an image service (imgur) to store and "sanitize" images.  It may have to do with the size of the file and the speed of the internet connection to the source where the image is uploaded from; basically there is an insufficient timeout somewhere along that path, and the file gets truncated.  Reducing the image size usually helps.  Try saving as JPEG format with quality 80 or less; it may get a bit fuzzy, but then you can wrap it in a link to the full version.

It is rumoured than, when the bitcoin price will reach 10'000 USD, the admins will be able to afford to hire a teenage programmer to fix this bug (and re-enable the uploading of avatars).

IT'S A LINUX BUG, mr Stolfi

Linux bug planted by the NSA

Lol, when it started for me that was exactly my first thought. "Oh noes, they're watching me!"

Then I realized that they've always been watching, and will always be watching, so I just changed a bunch of stuff, and now that issue is gone.

Not sure what fixed it, but haven't had that issue for at least the past few months now.

Best guess is some kind of caching issue or buffer getting filled, or whatever. I don't think it's necessarily server side as it doesn't happen with Firefox, as far as I know...

[fonsie]

Serious question:

What's the "fair price" of one bitcoin? and how do you arrive to that conclusion?

The price you accept when selling one.

Conclusion: Makes sense.

[Deadstock]

F it, lets go all the way to $100

[noobtrader]

Serious question:

What's the "fair price" of one bitcoin? and how do you arrive to that conclusion?

fair to who

at current difficulty, miner expect at least above 350

new buyer expect  2 digit
 

[abercrombie]

Bitcoin sub-270...  

You maniacs. You blew it up.  Damn you, damn you all to hell....

[600watt]

it is always the same. i am so deeply sucked into bitcoin (very delusional perma bull i guess) that whenever we go over a cliff like today i think: "thaaaat´s it, finally. i will get out. i cannot take this anymore."  of course i can´t sell right into the panic, so i promise myself i will sell them all once it has bounced back to a level that once looked so boring (but now looks so shiny). but when it climbs back up, i keep forgetting my despair and then  - of course i never never sell once it has reached more comfortable levels. i know this and i still cannot escape. hope seems to be stronger than fear. it feels fucking bad to lose money. but in my case it seems to feel 10 times worse to lose btc.

i will end up with lots of worthless btc i guess.  

[shmadz]

EDIT: Hmmm, now I'm having doubts, perhaps it's only a Chrome bug and I just didn't experience it anymore because I ignored NotLambchop.
Either way there's an easy fix.

LOL!

This will now be known as "The Brony Bug"

[JimboToronto]

F it, lets go all the way to $100

Missed out on buying 2-digit coins? Dreaming of another chance?

Keep dreaming.

[Divitiae miserae]

Serious question:

What's the "fair price" of one bitcoin? and how do you arrive to that conclusion?

I'll give you my newbie thought: it roughly depends on how much fiat has been pumped in. 0 fiat, 0 value.

[fonsie]

EDIT: Hmmm, now I'm having doubts, perhaps it's only a Chrome bug and I just didn't experience it anymore because I ignored NotLambchop.
Either way there's an easy fix.

LOL!

This will now be known as "The Brony Bug"

 

[shmadz]

it is always the same. i am so deeply sucked into bitcoin (very delusional perma bull i guess) that whenever we go over a cliff like today i think: "thaaaat´s it, finally. i will get out. i cannot take this anymore."  of course i can´t sell right into the panic, so i promise myself i will sell them all once it has bounced back to a level that once looked so boring (but now looks so shiny). but when it climbs back up, i keep forgetting my despair and then  - of course i never never sell once it has reached more comfortable levels. i know this and i still cannot escape. hope seems to be stronger than fear. it feels fucking bad to lose money. but in my case it seems to feel 10 times worse to lose btc.

i will end up with lots of worthless btc i guess.  

LOL (more of a chuckle actually)

So when do we start planning the "bitcoin hits 10,000 party?"

(Serious question)

[macsga]

it is always the same. i am so deeply sucked into bitcoin (very delusional perma bull i guess) that whenever we go over a cliff like today i think: "thaaaat´s it, finally. i will get out. i cannot take this anymore."  of course i can´t sell right into the panic, so i promise myself i will sell them all once it has bounced back to a level that once looked so boring (but now looks so shiny). but when it climbs back up, i keep forgetting my despair and then  - of course i never never sell once it has reached more comfortable levels. i know this and i still cannot escape. hope seems to be stronger than fear. it feels fucking bad to lose money. but in my case it seems to feel 10 times worse to lose btc.

i will end up with lots of worthless btc i guess.  

Cold wallets are the medicine against panic moves... I have to wait about half an hour just to copy mine into the computer... let along sync it...

[Wandererfromthenorth]

So you perma-bulls are saying that since BTC price crashed but recovered in the past when it was worth nothing and a lot less new fiat coming in was necessary to pump the price that means every crash today is just a bear trap?  
Even after one year of bear market (never happened before) even after seeing prices reaching a low that was not seen since 2013 even after having broke the previous bubble high (never happened before) even after having broke a multi-year support trend line (never happened before)?

So even if we reach half a dollar nobody needs to worry because the moon is around the corner? Nice mental trap you have set in for yourselves.

[inca]

Short interest a hair away from 20,000 contracts on bfxdata. Over 3000 new shorts today. Retest 300 soon.

[600watt]

it is always the same. i am so deeply sucked into bitcoin (very delusional perma bull i guess) that whenever we go over a cliff like today i think: "thaaaat´s it, finally. i will get out. i cannot take this anymore."  of course i can´t sell right into the panic, so i promise myself i will sell them all once it has bounced back to a level that once looked so boring (but now looks so shiny). but when it climbs back up, i keep forgetting my despair and then  - of course i never never sell once it has reached more comfortable levels. i know this and i still cannot escape. hope seems to be stronger than fear. it feels fucking bad to lose money. but in my case it seems to feel 10 times worse to lose btc.

i will end up with lots of worthless btc i guess.  

LOL (more of a chuckle actually)

So when do we start planning the "bitcoin hits 10,000 party?"

(Serious question)

there are no plans for that right now. 

[pjviitas]

Serious question:

What's the "fair price" of one bitcoin? and how do you arrive to that conclusion?

Fraction of a dollar.

My conclusion is mostly based on utility.  Fiat is simply easier to use than BTC.

I have to pay money to get BTC and then be careful to use it in a timely fashion or risk losing more money.

I view BTC more as a loyalty program token of sorts.

[shmadz]

So you perma-bulls are saying that since BTC price crashed but recovered in the past when it was worth nothing and a lot less new fiat coming in was necessary to pump the price that means every crash today is just a bear trap?  
Even after one year of bear market (never happened before) even after seeing prices reaching a low that was not seen since 2013 even after having broke the previous bubble high (never happened before) even after having broke a multi-year support trend line (never happened before)?

So even if we reach half a dollar nobody needs to worry because the moon is around the corner? Nice mental trap you have set in for yourselves.

Price is still higher than when I started, not really worried if all my imaginary fortune goes poof.