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January 05, 2015, 06:46:27 PM

which (programming) language or technologie is Bitstamp based on?

Python, once the CEO told me...



and yes I am back, but I don't care about your trading strategies nor your life drama.... I moved on to other things.

Ok.   

Goodbye and have a nice life!!!!!    Tongue



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January 05, 2015, 06:52:21 PM

From Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2repff/bitstamp_exchange_issues_megathread/cnf6gdp

user baron1703 wrote:

Observations:

Known Bitstamp cold storage: https://blockchain.info/address/1JoktQJhCzuCQkt3GnQ8Xddcq4mUgNyXEa

Suspicious address: https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

Transactions started to appear in the suspicious address after 1am european time on 04.01.15. The first transactions had fees of 0.55 and 1 btc, respectively. These continue thought the day with fees of around 0.1btc. First complaints of deposit issues started during the day. Stamp sent out an email the NEXT day, shortly thereafter suspending its site.

As can be seen here (http://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/6e20c5b8ebb819c7?from_address=1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf), the transactions coming into the 1L2JsX address are from bitstamp addresses (note that this page is not real time, so not all new transactions are displayed).

The cold storage address mentioned above was not touched since mid december. The first new transactions in this address appear at around 10pm european time on 04.01.15. This appears to be a sweep of hot wallet addresses and brings in about 10k btc. Notice the specific structure this sweep transaction has (example: https://blockchain.info/tx/c84a1b8e7aaeae81cf3a1db7e37fdd6befbedafb4213338f412c6981b9469553) - a round amount is swept to the cold storage, an arbitrary amount is put in another address where it is combined with other inputs and swept again. This pattern is not observed in the 1L2JsX address. Furthermore, fees in the cold storage address vary from 0.0001 to 0.001, depending on size - again, unlike the 1L2JsX address.

IF the 1L2JsX address indeed belongs to a hacker, bitstamp COULD be missing 18,865btc, with the remaining 134,872btc in its cold storage wallet. It appears that only these two addresses have been used for sweeping. This would imply a loss of 12% of all held bitcoins.

One of the bitstamp founders (https://twitter.com/nejc_kodric) tweeted: "To restate: the bulk of our bitcoin are in cold storage, and remain completely safe." Interpret that as you will.


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January 05, 2015, 06:56:33 PM

Its cool how you can leverage a negotiation to return dirty coins, by tagging/marking an address!
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January 05, 2015, 06:59:57 PM


Explanation
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January 05, 2015, 07:02:15 PM

Few months back $275 seemed dirt cheap and a gift from satoshi and now we touched it as resistance after a low volume bounce.



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Yes and if we were to experience a 2013 rate of growth again, we'd be put at $35k/BTC at the end of november. Funny this market, ain't it?

Mt Gox, the biggest exchange in the history of bitcoin, closed and stole acount holder funds, and now it appears that Stamp -- less than one year later -- is experiencing some significant problems of its own.

Merchant adoption means very little any more. Companies adopt bitcoin and the price barely moves.

It would take nothing short of a sovereign country adopting bitcoin as its national currency to cause a spike in price again. Face it, the 2010-2013 bull market is over and the bubble is now deflating. There's very little to get excited about anymore in the world of bitcoin. Expect the price to continue falling.

Take this crap to other threads or talk book less.

Thanks for that well reasoned rebuttal. Expect nothing less from bitcoin bulltards.
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January 05, 2015, 07:11:09 PM


Maybe 18,866 is the amount they have saved out of 134,872 from so-called hacker (hacker is the guy who tweeted that bulk thing, stealing from himself Lips sealed)Huh?
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January 05, 2015, 07:12:31 PM

Few months back $275 seemed dirt cheap and a gift from satoshi and now we touched it as resistance after a low volume bounce.



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Yes and if we were to experience a 2013 rate of growth again reinstate Willy, we'd be put at $35k/BTC at the end of november. Funny this market, ain't it?

FTFY Wink
Then reinstate him. What are you waiting for?
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January 05, 2015, 07:13:18 PM

How do you think Stamp hack will affect bitcoin price when they open trades again?

Will price drops?

TY!


depends what happens in the next hours and days. If everything back to normal soon and trades get reestablished, then prices probably will recover.

If things keep as they are or people can't withdraw money things will get worse



i think its going to get worse. obviously they are rehashing last years gox that brought bitcoin down.
next will be china banning bitcoin again for the umpteenth time. (sure ya banned it this time for reals)
and then maybe the us economy will enter into crisis mode again.
with the dollar at ATH's we are sure to see something happen.
we can't have the dollar higher than it was in 2007 and it just stay that high forever.
it never has before, it always crashes back down. ALWAYS ... gravity > usd. get ready for the usd to crash again.
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January 05, 2015, 07:14:44 PM

my guts tell me chaos is nearby
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January 05, 2015, 07:25:58 PM

135k address sent 5k in December

https://blockchain.info/tx/9d25b5eaa65de602fe6a11ba9db83f3b1105899b12664f3302a5ccf1cff955d8

here
https://blockchain.info/address/1Drt3c8pSdrkyjuBiwVcSSixZwQtMZ3Tew

which sent this today to the 'hack address'
https://blockchain.info/tx/bd1182f6b676c13dfc0ab28097dc43eac43554006854ab785b20b4a6bb307b73

interesting...
or I got something wrong?
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January 05, 2015, 07:26:10 PM

on a happy note, so far XMR has hedged BTC very nicely.
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January 05, 2015, 07:30:30 PM

Wow, it´s all over the news!  Shocked

Wallstreet Journal:

"Bitstamps real problem is similiar to the Y2K-Bug in 2000. According to an insider Bitstamp thought that the price would never ever go below the old ATH and so their trading engine has never been designed to handle trades in this area. However it seems that everything is broken now and all coins(even the ones from the cold wallet) are stolen due to the bug that someone immediately exploited. Rumours say that Bitstamp CEO Nejc Kodrič will release a statement in a few hours(days) on how they plan to reimburse their customers one by one over a 5-8 year term."
 
http://www.wsj.com/articles/behind-the-scenes-of-the-broken-bitstamp-trading-engine-1420455248

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January 05, 2015, 07:32:57 PM

Wow, it´s all over the news!  Shocked

Wallstreet Journal:

"Bitstamps real problem is similiar to the Y2K-Bug in 2000. According to an insider Bitstamp thought that the price would never ever go below the old ATH and so their trading engine has never been designed to handle trades in this area. However it seems that everything is broken now and all coins(even the ones from the cold wallet) are stolen due to the bug that someone immediately exploited. Rumours say that Bitstamp CEO Nejc Kodrič will release a statement in a few hours(days) on how they plan to reimburse their customers one by one over a 5-8 year term."
 
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Wow, it´s all over the news!  Shocked

Wallstreet Journal:

"Bitstamps real problem is similiar to the Y2K-Bug in 2000. According to an insider Bitstamp thought that the price would never ever go below the old ATH and so their trading engine has never been designed to handle trades in this area. However it seems that everything is broken now and all coins(even the ones from the cold wallet) are stolen due to the bug that someone immediately exploited. Rumours say that Bitstamp CEO Nejc Kodrič will release a statement in a few hours(days) on how they plan to reimburse their customers one by one over a 5-8 year term."
 

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wow fonzie, that is an elaborated trolling. Congrats.
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January 05, 2015, 07:35:44 PM

Wow, it´s all over the news!  Shocked

Wallstreet Journal:

"Bitstamps real problem is similiar to the Y2K-Bug in 2000. According to an insider Bitstamp thought that the price would never ever go below the old ATH and so their trading engine has never been designed to handle trades in this area. However it seems that everything is broken now and all coins(even the ones from the cold wallet) are stolen due to the bug that someone immediately exploited. Rumours say that Bitstamp CEO Nejc Kodrič will release a statement in a few hours(days) on how they plan to reimburse their customers one by one over a 5-8 year term."
 
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Wow, it´s all over the news!  Shocked

Wallstreet Journal:

"Bitstamps real problem is similiar to the Y2K-Bug in 2000. According to an insider Bitstamp thought that the price would never ever go below the old ATH and so their trading engine has never been designed to handle trades in this area. However it seems that everything is broken now and all coins(even the ones from the cold wallet) are stolen due to the bug that someone immediately exploited. Rumours say that Bitstamp CEO Nejc Kodrič will release a statement in a few hours(days) on how they plan to reimburse their customers one by one over a 5-8 year term."
 
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That's some high quality, high effort stuff. I'm not even mad about the trolling Cheesy
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January 05, 2015, 07:37:28 PM


in my interpretation the 'hack address' is actually a sweep address
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January 05, 2015, 07:37:49 PM

Most of us have fonzie ignored - please don't quote his BS, no matter how creative (and dumb, really - like the precision of $1000 is somehow different than the precision of $100 per coin - lol).
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Wow, it´s all over the news!  Shocked

Wallstreet Journal:

"Bitstamps real problem is similiar to the Y2K-Bug in 2000. According to an insider Bitstamp thought that the price would never ever go below the old ATH and so their trading engine has never been designed to handle trades in this area. However it seems that everything is broken now and all coins(even the ones from the cold wallet) are stolen due to the bug that someone immediately exploited. Rumours say that Bitstamp CEO Nejc Kodrič will release a statement in a few hours(days) on how they plan to reimburse their customers one by one over a 5-8 year term."
 
http://www.wsj.com/articles/behind-the-scenes-of-the-broken-bitstamp-trading-engine-1420455248

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