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Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.
10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too. It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute. I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh). These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon. If people spend such time and energy to discredit and disrupt bitcoin in any way possible, then you know bitcoin's working ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Major advancements are often met with revulsion when the threaten to disrupt the norm, hence why guys like Galileo were threatened with their lives.
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January 30, 2015, 07:12:27 AM |
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Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.
10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too. It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute. I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh). These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon. In the end, censorship by the government is always the solution. I knew it.
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January 30, 2015, 07:13:23 AM Last edit: January 30, 2015, 08:28:17 AM by Sitarow |
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2:14AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1K8EkXE.png&t=665&c=M7Upmvhz8Q9ytg) 2:24AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcChb2z8.png&t=665&c=akyn74b-JOfgmA) 2:46AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fny5qrU7.png&t=665&c=bUtZat-xMbF-6A) 2:50AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFiWpfLL.png&t=665&c=yvWx9QTpadJJAQ) 2:55AM EST 2015/01/30 BTC-e LTC/BTC ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4aMpSvy.png&t=665&c=p8ObeUanoNxORA) 2:57AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCLLnzNV.png&t=665&c=OfRshKtdmMOGIQ) 3:02AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F28l2qzZ.png&t=665&c=Wst9D-qS10yrDA) It is good to see LTC/USD was being permitted to rise however the "market" or those hopeing to sell LTC for top dallar are still using BTC/LTC BTC/USD and LTC/CNY has been used to push BTC down. Also back when BTC was 600+ in 2013 shortly after altccoins like DOGE is when you noticed this same behaviour. 2:14AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhF5B5qK.png&t=665&c=iz5SHPZj5SIavA) Note: You can still use DOGE and DRK for this trick on a larger scale however LTC still is king. 3:05AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxYGl9ZC.png&t=665&c=DIXnKvPWFHl7LA) 3:09AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaKJnqtz.png&t=665&c=yP_ymae8Lxjc2Q) 3:12AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQwCWNzK.png&t=665&c=pcdCB0UUmFm8Cg) 3:12AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FW8n0zdc.png&t=665&c=K1lDOmUsTEUnTA) 3:20AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZOvFCz0.png&t=665&c=vODOvMxwYuTfgg) 3:24AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3xRXB1q.png&t=665&c=CUI5Rxzp0X0Itw) This is only possible because most people don't recognize the true value of BTC and are looking for the next "get rich coin". "Do not trade on leverage in this market" Bots and leverage on exchanges with out transparency is not a good mix. http://www.coindesk.com/margin-trading-crash-price-bitcoin/This theory, perhaps most notably posed by Raffael Danielli, posits that out-of-control margin trading caused a flash crash in at least one major bitcoin exchange market, a development that had a cascading effect across the larger bitcoin market. "BITCOIN PRICE MANIPULATION ON CENTRALIZED EXCHANGES SEEMS COORDINATED" https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-price-manipulation-centralized-exchanges-seems-coordinated/The Centralized Bitcoin exchanges seem to coordinate their prices across continental divides. One goes down – they all go down. The question is why the public tolerates their scam. If they were useful or desirable, they’d consider the very people who sustain the Bitcoin network, namely Bitcoin miners who, below $400, likely operate at a loss. Exchange clients and miners get whatever is happening in the busiest exchange. The exchanges’ arbitrage-bots equalize prices between one another. Miners – you’re the backbone of this innovation. Cryptomonkeys – you think you’re trading – but your centralized exchange rides you bare-back.
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January 30, 2015, 07:27:46 AM |
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Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.
10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too. It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute. I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh). These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon. In the end, censorship by the government is always the solution. I knew it. It's not a government it's private forum and the owners can do as they please.
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January 30, 2015, 07:37:26 AM |
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Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.
10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too. It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute. I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh). These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon. In the end, censorship by the government is always the solution. I knew it. Hmm...Censorship I think marcus is right... But It is not censorship the thread/forum needs but reasoned moderating, I like a joke as much as the next guy, but...... there is the obvious is obvious trolling, aggressive, insult hurling trolling, constant repetitive trolling. That has got little to do with freedom of speech, that is more like verbal abuse (then again some of the actual moderating that has been done on this thread... Highly dubious.)
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January 30, 2015, 07:44:12 AM |
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January 30, 2015, 07:45:32 AM |
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Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.
10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too. It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute. I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh). These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon. In the end, censorship by the government is always the solution. I knew it. Hmm...Censorship I think marcus is right... But It is not censorship the thread/forum needs but reasoned moderating, I like a joke as much as the next guy, but...... there is the obvious is obvious trolling, aggressive, insult hurling trolling, constant repetitive trolling. That has got little to do with freedom of speech, that is more like verbal abuse Honestly newbies are important and their input is important, however in the past if a child disrespected another person there would be consequences, usually resulted in their removal.
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January 30, 2015, 07:58:42 AM |
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Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.
10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too. It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute. I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh). These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon. In the end, censorship by the government is always the solution. I knew it. Hmm...Censorship I think marcus is right... But It is not censorship the thread/forum needs but reasoned moderating, I like a joke as much as the next guy, but...... there is the obvious is obvious trolling, aggressive, insult hurling trolling, constant repetitive trolling. That has got little to do with freedom of speech, that is more like verbal abuse Honestly newbies are important and their input is important, however in the past if a child disrespected another person there would be consequences, usually resulted in their removal. Totally. Come, communicate, contribute, give your thoughts , analysis.. Agree, disagree, argue, counter argue. Even have a laugh, or a ot chat, post a meme or two. Just try not to be a total c unit about it all. Also, say your thing, no need to repeat it twenty times a day, and no need for an army of 12 sockmuppets. It seems the only goal they have is disruption to discourse, because no one really takes them seriously so it is not an effective dis-information campaign.
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January 30, 2015, 07:59:55 AM |
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January 30, 2015, 08:20:40 AM |
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January 30, 2015, 08:23:10 AM Last edit: January 30, 2015, 09:34:41 AM by Sitarow |
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Update 3:34AM ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3xRXB1q.png&t=665&c=CUI5Rxzp0X0Itw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPJBP8Ym.png&t=665&c=0Mhl3vqwBY4SAA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2K77YZb.png&t=665&c=Cwe8tANOgHhI8w) 3:56AM EST ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBzdb3Vc.png&t=665&c=OO9XBEriKRwA_Q) 4AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTCluo5r.png&t=665&c=xayg3BDtpNp6OQ) 4:10AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FB9AWukV.png&t=665&c=roRLh9aSgLHK9A) 4:26AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvNOVYKd.png&t=665&c=OvqkwhXgLamMxw) 4:28AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FO3TxQYs.png&t=665&c=4znWgx9A8dp-3Q) 4:30AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeJSzGBW.png&t=665&c=Q6ThMq6uuMr2lw) 4:33AM EST 2015/01/30 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9ym4U9z.png&t=665&c=n6oDB11Hl0blOw)
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January 30, 2015, 08:24:40 AM |
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There are several Bitcoin exchanges in that country, but they don't have enough money worth suing for.
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January 30, 2015, 08:27:05 AM |
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NYSE having some lulz at the 'regulators' expense most likely. It is not even clear in law what 'license' is necessary to trade distributed database rights accessible only by privately held cryptographic keys.
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January 30, 2015, 08:28:46 AM |
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From the source: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/coinbase-inc--national-securities-law-firm-investigates-licensure-of-coinbases-bitcoin-exchange-300028022.htmlOn January 26, 2015, Coinbase announced that it launched the first regulated Bitcoin Exchange in the United States, and that it is licensed to do business in 25 states, including New York and California. Coinbase's statement may have artificially inflated the price of Bitcoins as the cybercurrency rose to $263. However, it was later revealed by New York's Department of Financial Services and California's Department of Business Oversight that Coinbase did not have the licenses necessary to operate as a Bitcoin Exchange in New York or California. Following this announcement, the price of a Bitcoin fell to $233. If this bunch of jokers gets their panties in a twist over every little 30 dollar pump and dump, they are going to be very busy little beavers. Funny how they don't worry about stuff like LIBOR or the London gold fix so much... I think coinbase just didn't grease the right palms and this is just a shakedown for protection money. Regulation is a joke.
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January 30, 2015, 08:37:26 AM |
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From the source: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/coinbase-inc--national-securities-law-firm-investigates-licensure-of-coinbases-bitcoin-exchange-300028022.htmlOn January 26, 2015, Coinbase announced that it launched the first regulated Bitcoin Exchange in the United States, and that it is licensed to do business in 25 states, including New York and California. Coinbase's statement may have artificially inflated the price of Bitcoins as the cybercurrency rose to $263. However, it was later revealed by New York's Department of Financial Services and California's Department of Business Oversight that Coinbase did not have the licenses necessary to operate as a Bitcoin Exchange in New York or California. Following this announcement, the price of a Bitcoin fell to $233. If this bunch of jokers gets their panties in a twist over every little 30 dollar pump and dump, they are going to be very busy little beavers. Funny how they don't worry about stuff like LIBOR or the London gold fix so much... I think coinbase just didn't grease the right palms and this is just a shakedown for protection money. Regulation is a joke. THis is an example of the DISCONNECT between Journalism and reality. The drop in BTC/USD was not effected in the least by that revelation as this market manipulation btc/usd btc/ltc ltc/cny was pre-planned since the 24th of this month. Some one put this up however I can't seem to find the posting on bitcointalk. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcQtepFo.png&t=665&c=O6HI_hOBP8lXpw)
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January 30, 2015, 08:42:56 AM |
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Or advertising for the lawyers...
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January 30, 2015, 08:55:46 AM |
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Not sure how or why more of the Bitcoin community isn't pissed about what Coinbase did. To me it is so obvious.... I plan on working with any law firm looking to take action against Coinbase. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938514.0
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January 30, 2015, 08:57:03 AM |
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Not sure how or why more of the Bitcoin community isn't pissed about what Coinbase did. To me it is so obvious.... I plan on working with any law firm looking to take action against Coinbase. What did they do in your opinion?
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January 30, 2015, 08:59:30 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fsuszdar.png&t=665&c=JNU3u4hXNcP_Vg) Daily resistance was too strong for those bulls.
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