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Daily resistance was too strong for those bulls.

Nah to make an accurate prediction I suggest you pay attention to the volume on BTC/LTC and LTC/CNY and you will know the reason the BTC/USD is being pushed down.

This is not the effect of BTC holders rushing to the exits but rather exploiters taking advantage of the uncertainty of the market due to market manipulation.

EDIT: when the value of BTC/LTC drops you will see a rise in BTC/USD while the LTC/USD does not go higher.

A simple algorithm can pick this up as well.

Simply review the archived charts and you will see on BTC-e on the 25th a Serious Drop in BTC/LTC prior and the price increase of BTC/USD to the jump from $255 BTC/USD all the while of LTC/USD did not follow the BTC/USD move as it was being kept in place by selling preasure on OKCoin LTC/CNY.
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January 30, 2015, 09:10:28 AM

What did they do in your opinion?

I'm to tired to type it out in full with references.

Probably best you build your own opinion on what just happened.

In a nut shell Coinbase Rick Rolled everyone with news that was a flat out lie and generated tons of "buzz" (as Charlie Lee called it) that generated Coinbase huge profits at the expense of fooled customers/bitcoiners alike. 1% and actually buying Bitcoins after the market crashed via customers and huge $50+ dollar swings for the rest of the world. (NYSE tweeted last week they planned on helping Coinbase make the Bitcoin prices more transparent... and Coinbase took that shit to the bank.)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938514.0

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What did they do in your opinion?

I'm to tired to type it out in full with references.

Probably best you build your own opinion on what just happened.

In a nut shell Coinbase Rick Rolled everyone with news that was a flat out lie and generated tons of "buzz" (as Charlie Lee called it) that generated Coinbase huge profits at the expense of fooled customers/bitcoiners alike. 1% and actually buying Bitcoins after the market crashed via customers and huge $50+ dollar swings for the rest of the world. (NYSE tweeted last week they planned on helping Coinbase make the Bitcoin prices more transparent... and Coinbase took that shit to the bank.)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938514.0



Don't forget that their news help propup LTC/USD LTC/BTC prior to the BTC/USD pump from $255 to $310 while OKCoin kept the LTC/USD at the targeted @$2.3 in an effort to move LTC into BTC and then sell the BTC at a higher USD rate.

If we manage to break $250 BTC/USD then expect to see some frustrated people who were promised sub $200 due to BTC/LTC pumping and dumping.

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January 30, 2015, 09:19:21 AM

Don't forget that their news help propup LTC/USD LTC/BTC prior to the BTC/USD pump from $255 to $310 while OKCoin kept the LTC/USD at the targeted @$2.3 in an effort to move LTC into BTC and then sell the BTC at a higher USD rate.

Will point this out to the proper people when the time comes.

Thank you <3

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January 30, 2015, 09:22:02 AM

We are not goint to break 250$. We are going to 160$.

You can come back next week and quote my post if you want.  Wink
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January 30, 2015, 09:23:18 AM

We are not goint to break 250$. We are going to 160$.

You can come back next week and quote my post if you want.  Wink

Smiley watch this it will help you out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK367T7h6ZY
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January 30, 2015, 09:25:32 AM

What did they do in your opinion?

I'm to tired to type it out in full with references.

Probably best you build your own opinion on what just happened.

In a nut shell Coinbase Rick Rolled everyone with news that was a flat out lie and generated tons of "buzz" (as Charlie Lee called it) that generated Coinbase huge profits at the expense of fooled customers/bitcoiners alike. 1% and actually buying Bitcoins after the market crashed via customers and huge $50+ dollar swings for the rest of the world. (NYSE tweeted last week they planned on helping Coinbase make the Bitcoin prices more transparent... and Coinbase took that shit to the bank.)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938514.0



I already have an opinion,  I was curious as to what your opinion is.

When you say rickrolled are you referring to the "lunar launch"?   tbh I took that with a pinch of salt, they played on the moon meme, and the lunar name, it was cute but it never meant anything... Surely no one thought that meant anything other than the opening of the exchange? (which I do wonder if they rushed because of Gemini)

Did they specifically say, themselves anywhere that they were licensed in California or NY?  Or did they say they were were operating in NY and California?  

Or is it the insurance angle?  

Eitherway I do not get how this caused anyone to immediately rush to the exchange and buy any more or less btc than they wanted in the first place. Also how exactly did you lose 200k if you do not mind me asking? I did not quite get that part?

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January 30, 2015, 09:27:07 AM

When you say rickrolled are you referring to the "lunar launch"?   tbh I took that with a pinch of salt, they played on the moon meme, and the lunar name, it was cute but it never meant anything... Surely no one thought that meant anything other than the opening of the exchange? (which I do wonder if they rushed because of Gemini)

They had this hidden in the source code of the lunar launch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROWqjuTM0g
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January 30, 2015, 09:32:19 AM

When you say rickrolled are you referring to the "lunar launch"?   tbh I took that with a pinch of salt, they played on the moon meme, and the lunar name, it was cute but it never meant anything... Surely no one thought that meant anything other than the opening of the exchange? (which I do wonder if they rushed because of Gemini)

They had this hidden in the source code of the lunar launch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROWqjuTM0g
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January 30, 2015, 09:34:13 AM

When you say rickrolled are you referring to the "lunar launch"?   tbh I took that with a pinch of salt, they played on the moon meme, and the lunar name, it was cute but it never meant anything... Surely no one thought that meant anything other than the opening of the exchange? (which I do wonder if they rushed because of Gemini)

They had this hidden in the source code of the lunar launch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROWqjuTM0g
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January 30, 2015, 09:35:22 AM

When you say rickrolled are you referring to the "lunar launch"?   tbh I took that with a pinch of salt, they played on the moon meme, and the lunar name, it was cute but it never meant anything... Surely no one thought that meant anything other than the opening of the exchange? (which I do wonder if they rushed because of Gemini)

They had this hidden in the source code of the lunar launch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROWqjuTM0g

Hahaha! I sill don't understand what you are trying to do here, Bay. With or without coinbase keeping their promises, bitcoin was still on its way to a big dumpage. That Lunar bullshit was just a great pretext for a pump and dump and that's it. Don't tell me that it was an organic growth and all of a sudden it collapsed because some shills didn't deliver haha

Come on, Bay, these things happened in the altcoin world everyday and no one came with lawsuits and a bunch of threads after getting destroyed. You are just butthurt that you lost a shit load of money on the shittiest trade you have ever made.
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January 30, 2015, 09:35:59 AM

Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.

10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too.

It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute.

I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh).

These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon.

In the end, censorship by the government is always the solution.
I knew it.

Hmm...Censorship

I think marcus is right...  

But It is not censorship the thread/forum needs but reasoned moderating, I like a joke as much as the next guy, but...... there is the obvious is obvious trolling, aggressive, insult hurling trolling, constant repetitive trolling. That has got little to do with freedom of speech, that is more like verbal abuse

Buy a new mouse and click on ignore if the link doesn't work for you.
Don't decide for me what is trolling or abusive.

1 exception, scammers who deliberately con you from bitcoins. You should put them in jail or shoot them, but that's another discussion.
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January 30, 2015, 09:37:09 AM

When you say rickrolled are you referring to the "lunar launch"?   tbh I took that with a pinch of salt, they played on the moon meme, and the lunar name, it was cute but it never meant anything... Surely no one thought that meant anything other than the opening of the exchange? (which I do wonder if they rushed because of Gemini)

They had this hidden in the source code of the lunar launch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROWqjuTM0g

Sorry to be thick here.... but.. so what?

  I am trying to understand what is it exactly that you are accusing them of, and how did they fool you into buying Bitcoins you otherwise did not want ?  And  into losing 200k and how did you lose the 200k ?

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Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.

10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too.

It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute.

I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh).

These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon.

In the end, censorship by the government is always the solution.
I knew it.

Hmm...Censorship

I think marcus is right...  

But It is not censorship the thread/forum needs but reasoned moderating, I like a joke as much as the next guy, but...... there is the obvious is obvious trolling, aggressive, insult hurling trolling, constant repetitive trolling. That has got little to do with freedom of speech, that is more like verbal abuse

Buy a new mouse and click on ignore if the link doesn't work for you.
Don't decide for me what is trolling or abusive.

1 exception, scammers who deliberately con you from bitcoins. You should put them in jail or shoot them, but that's another discussion.

I do not believe I was trying to decide anything for you.

Just expressing my opinion, hope that's cool.
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January 30, 2015, 09:42:50 AM

Hahaha! I sill don't understand what you are trying to do here, Bay.

I just want people to know who used Coinbase on Sunday that they got fucked.

The fucked ness doesn't end there either.  It effects all Bitcoiners.

Bitcoin holders are so blinded by the fact they want their Bitcoin stash to go up that are going to miss that they just got fucked by a major USA Bitcoin Company if no one voices up.

Getting scammed often comes with butthurt, but I could give a fuck less about $220,000 frankly over not getting flim flammed for even $1.

It's still business as usual other wise via selling silver and such for BTC on my end.  Honey Badgers don't give no fucks about suits!
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January 30, 2015, 09:44:41 AM

Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.

10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too.

It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute.

I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh).

These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon.

In the end, censorship by the government is always the solution.
I knew it.

Hmm...Censorship

I think marcus is right...  

But It is not censorship the thread/forum needs but reasoned moderating, I like a joke as much as the next guy, but...... there is the obvious is obvious trolling, aggressive, insult hurling trolling, constant repetitive trolling. That has got little to do with freedom of speech, that is more like verbal abuse

Buy a new mouse and click on ignore if the link doesn't work for you.
Don't decide for me what is trolling or abusive.

1 exception, scammers who deliberately con you from bitcoins. You should put them in jail or shoot them, but that's another discussion.

I do not believe I was trying to decide anything for you.

You do, because you want moderation on this forum to remove the obvious trolling and words you don't like.

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Of course it's cool, that's what it's all about, freedom of speech.
If you don't like it, there is a feature called 'ignore button', use it.


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January 30, 2015, 09:49:51 AM

Hahaha! I sill don't understand what you are trying to do here, Bay.

I just want people to know who used Coinbase on Sunday that they got fucked.

The fucked ness doesn't end there either.  It effects all Bitcoiners.

Bitcoin holders are so blinded by the fact they want their Bitcoin stash to go up that are going to miss that they just got fucked by a major USA Bitcoin Company if no one voices up.

Getting scammed often comes with butthurt, but I could give a fuck less about $220,000 frankly over not getting flim flammed for even $1.

It's still business as usual other wise via selling silver and such for BTC on my end.  Honey Badgers don't give no fucks about suits!

Sorry to be thick here.... but.. so what?

  I am trying to understand what is it exactly that you are accusing them of, and how did they fool you into buying Bitcoins you otherwise did not want ?  And  into losing 200k and how did you lose the 200k ?


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Its hilarious how quiet this thread goes when the price is rising compared to when it falls $10. Just trolls left = confirmed.

10,000 pages ago there actually were interesting posts where people were really analyzing TA and tossing ideas around. Now the best we have is TL;DR walls of text from concern trolls. Lately they've been coming for /r/bitcoinmarkets too.

It's pretty bad. I'm not going to post any TA unless newbie jail is brought back. This is the most popular thread on the forum and quality posts get shit on day in and day out from these shills with nothing to contribute.

I don't think the newbie jail will change much. These are economically motivated posters who are being allowed to deliberately deface the forum and discredit bitcoin in any way possible. They state openly they want to destroy bitcoin and then proceed to do everything in their (limited) power to bring that about. Posters that have previously been banned from the forum (Atlas and Goat spring to mind) were orders of magnitude less offensive (I found both quite entertaining and interesting tbh).

These guys are just cretins who have zero to contribute, their 'criticisms' are the usual baseless lies, FUD and misinformation that have been thoroughly refuted here over 4 years ago, yet all they do is repeat the same ad nauseum (a tool of propaganda). I've seen exactly the same modus operandi on other investing sites, which apparently bitcointalk has become in parts, and they will destroy this forum if they are allowed to run amok as they have been so far. They should have been banned long ago ... theymos and mods need to grow a backbone and realise what is happening, and soon.

In the end, censorship by the government is always the solution.
I knew it.

Hmm...Censorship

I think marcus is right...  

But It is not censorship the thread/forum needs but reasoned moderating, I like a joke as much as the next guy, but...... there is the obvious is obvious trolling, aggressive, insult hurling trolling, constant repetitive trolling. That has got little to do with freedom of speech, that is more like verbal abuse

Buy a new mouse and click on ignore if the link doesn't work for you.
Don't decide for me what is trolling or abusive.

1 exception, scammers who deliberately con you from bitcoins. You should put them in jail or shoot them, but that's another discussion.

I do not believe I was trying to decide anything for you.

You do, because you want moderation on this forum to remove the obvious trolling and words you don't like.

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Just expressing my opinion, hope that's cool.

Of course it's cool, that's what it's all about, freedom of speech.
If you don't like it, there is a feature called 'ignore button', use it.


I rather have an indicator of how many people are on somebodys ignore list.
Then I know who not to give too much attention to...

I get what you are saying, all up for freedom of speech.. But trolling is not communication imo.. It is something else.
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