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[molecular]

I"M BACK BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK. Now, to prove your allegiance to this forum, you need to troll your own thread in the other forum, and get banned there.

Haha, not going to happen, especially because those intentions are now known

[blunderer]

Hey, this might work. Looks like the other thread turned into JJG observer.

Tell me about it. It's like he thinks TL;DR means "do go on!"

You just don't appreciate the mastery of his trolling. Take his avatar:
Now tell me he's not

gerund or present participle: trolling
    1. informal
    make[ing] a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

See?


You're instantly filled with rage, you can't even believe this much faggotry can be packed into a thumbnail just 80 pixels tall, the sort of gayness that makes Nijinsky look like Duke Nukem and yet ...nothing you can do, no rules have been broken


Same with his posts. Nothing you can quite put you finger on, but start reading and BAM!!! you suddenly *need* to bitchslap, the sort of base desire to educate through humiliation and pain you always thought the domain of playground toughs and inbred rednecks.





And being forced to accept that such unenlightened feels are still there, lying dormant in the depths of your psyche, makes you feel ...ewwy.

Flawless victory!


JJG 1; Mankind 0.
*Notice how you felt about the blank lines? Yeah...

[conspirosphere.tk]

I thought I would never say but this thread miss the interest only academic voice of Mr Stollfi. If you read me, please come back, I have unignored

I guess he's too embarrassed by the pathetic manifestation of his political-economic beliefs in his own country/continent/planet.
Will he ever admit that buttcoiners were right?

[aztecminer]

I"M BACK BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

right sure ya are.. we dont believe till u prove it by posting a pic of yourself next to a bitcoin sign to prove it.

[aztecminer]

Adam can we get a new poll? May i suggest. Should this poll me censored? Option: Yes or Definite Yes

yeah and chart buddy. we are on to this scheme how chart buddy disappeared just as his charts were showing 100% full blocks . it was blamed on adam being banned... uh huh sure that is the reason.. we believe ya .

[infofront]

Wait, is it time for hookers and blow?

[JayJuanGee]

Hey, this might work. Looks like the other thread turned into JJG observer.

Tell me about it. It's like he thinks TL;DR means "do go on!"

You just don't appreciate the mastery of his trolling. Take his avatar:
Now tell me he's not

gerund or present participle: trolling
    1. informal
    make[ing] a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

See?


You're instantly filled with rage, you can't even believe this much faggotry can be packed into a thumbnail just 80 pixels tall, the sort of gayness that makes Nijinsky look like Duke Nukem and yet ...nothing you can do, no rules have been broken


Same with his posts. Nothing you can quite put you finger on, but start reading and BAM!!! you suddenly *need* to bitchslap, the sort of base desire to educate through humiliation and pain you always thought the domain of playground toughs and inbred rednecks.





And being forced to accept that such unenlightened feels are still there, lying dormant in the depths of your psyche, makes you feel ...ewwy.

Flawless victory!


JJG 1; Mankind 0.
*Notice how you felt about the blank lines? Yeah...

Lot's of hating this morning...              I'm glad that I bought a little BTC last night before going to bed...    At the moment, it seems that price movement odds are tipping a bit in the upward direction?

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

Its gone through a ton of testing and will be secure when it rolls out in April.
 

No one knows exactly when its coming out as there is still more testing to be done but a

2 posts within half an hour of each other. And you wonder why people dont take you seriously.

Not too many want core 0.12 anyway.   Its second to Classic's version of 0.12 right now.
 

You still here?

Morbid curiosity.  The BCT equivalent to rubber necking on the highway.

[spiderbrain]

Lot's of hating this morning...              I'm glad that I bought a little BTC last night before going to bed...    At the moment, it seems that price movement odds are tipping a bit in the upward direction?

I'm not hating, I just usual don't get to read your posts because they are too long

[JayJuanGee]

Lot's of hating this morning...              I'm glad that I bought a little BTC last night before going to bed...    At the moment, it seems that price movement odds are tipping a bit in the upward direction?

I'm not hating, I just usual don't get to read your posts because they are too long

There's no need to read every post or every poster.  As you likely realize, those decisions are personal and optional.  

This thread is long, too, and I doubt that anyone here has read every post in the thread, and the perspective of some posters may or may not resonate with some readers.  I would be interested in hearing any claim that someone has read all of the posts in this thread....  Many posts are pure spontaneous reflections of the moment, and other posts are pure attempts at derailing meaningful discussion.

Personally, if I see a long post, I may look at the author to get a sense regarding the theme or point of view (or if I am familiar with the author), then I may browse over the post.  If the subject matter of the post keeps my attention, then I will read in detail. If the subject matter does not pique my interest, or if I do not have a lot of time at that moment, then I will skip reading (yet in some instances, I may return to the post when I have more time).

[adamstgBit]

datacentercoin is coming, bitcoin will perish!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoM!

I Imagine a future where individual states, universities, governments, corporations, banks are the ones running bitcoin nodes.
China and USA may not agree on a lot of thing, but they will be made to participate in nakamoto consensus!!
I simply do not care if there individual citizens can't run a full node without a 10,000$ investment.
Welcome to the future of money, its a BIG DEAL.

Again, either very foolish or stupid. Bitcoin was always about individual sovereignty and now you're talking about turning it into a government/corporation coin. Nice viewpoint. 

you understand the distinction between controlled by 1 cooperation Vs decentralized amongst all cooperations. right?

the idea of bitcoin running on home computers while its only use is as a settlement layer only large corporations can afford to transact on is either very foolish or stupid.

maybe my point of view isn't "Nice" but at least its realistic.

lets not forget large corporations and banks have already said PASS on the bitcoin bandwagon, and they are on the Bitcoin bandwagon. weather you like it or not the idea of a decentralized "datacentercoin" as some like to call it, is coming. IMO, bitcoin will NOT be able to compete if it hodls desperately to maximal decentralization idealistic roadmap.

[adamstgBit]

no reaction?   

[JayJuanGee]

datacentercoin is coming, bitcoin will perish!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoM!

I Imagine a future where individual states, universities, governments, corporations, banks are the ones running bitcoin nodes.
China and USA may not agree on a lot of thing, but they will be made to participate in nakamoto consensus!!
I simply do not care if there individual citizens can't run a full node without a 10,000$ investment.
Welcome to the future of money, its a BIG DEAL.

Again, either very foolish or stupid. Bitcoin was always about individual sovereignty and now you're talking about turning it into a government/corporation coin. Nice viewpoint.  

you understand the distinction between controlled by 1 cooperation Vs decentralized amongst all cooperations. right?

the idea of bitcoin running on home computers while its only use is as a settlement layer only large corporations can afford to transact on is either very foolish or stupid.

maybe my point of view isn't "Nice" but at least its realistic.

lets not forget large corporations and banks have already said PASS on the bitcoin bandwagon, and they are on the Bitcoin bandwagon. weather you like it or not the idea of a decentralized "datacentercoin" as some like to call it, is coming. IMO, bitcoin will NOT be able to compete if it hodls desperately to maximal decentralization idealistic roadmap.

Probably one of the most dangerous dynamics in recent bitcoin discussions and publicity is when issues are framed as an "us" versus "them" manner, and causes more difficulties in compromising and more likely to go down the road of a forced hardforking, which if such forced hardforking were to occur would likely bring bitcoin prices back down into the below $200s and possibly even into the below $100s (or even single digits), which is not a positive development in terms of getting cheap coins.

It could take bitcoin some time to recover from a forced and/or contentious hard fork if it were not resolved within a short period of time... I think resolutions that define governing or mining consensus as 75% would lead to higher likelihoods of such potential contentious hardforks....   that is why resolutions of higher levels of consensus and softforks would likely be better for inspiring confidence in bitcoin.

[adamstgBit]

datacentercoin is coming, bitcoin will perish!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoM!

I Imagine a future where individual states, universities, governments, corporations, banks are the ones running bitcoin nodes.
China and USA may not agree on a lot of thing, but they will be made to participate in nakamoto consensus!!
I simply do not care if there individual citizens can't run a full node without a 10,000$ investment.
Welcome to the future of money, its a BIG DEAL.

Again, either very foolish or stupid. Bitcoin was always about individual sovereignty and now you're talking about turning it into a government/corporation coin. Nice viewpoint.  

you understand the distinction between controlled by 1 cooperation Vs decentralized amongst all cooperations. right?

the idea of bitcoin running on home computers while its only use is as a settlement layer only large corporations can afford to transact on is either very foolish or stupid.

maybe my point of view isn't "Nice" but at least its realistic.

lets not forget large corporations and banks have already said PASS on the bitcoin bandwagon, and they are on the Bitcoin bandwagon. weather you like it or not the idea of a decentralized "datacentercoin" as some like to call it, is coming. IMO, bitcoin will NOT be able to compete if it hodls desperately to maximal decentralization idealistic roadmap.

Probably one of the most dangerous dynamics in recent bitcoin discussions and publicity is when issues are framed as an "us" versus "them" manner, and causes more difficulties in compromising and more likely to go down the road of a forced hardforking, which if such forced hardforking were to occur would likely bring bitcoin prices back down into the below $200s and possibly even into the below $100s (or even single digits), which is not a positive development in terms of getting cheap coins.

It could take bitcoin some time to recover from a forced and/or contentious hard fork if it were not resolved within a short period of time... I think resolutions that define governing or mining consensus as 75% would lead to higher likelihoods of such potential contentious hardforks....   that is why resolutions of higher levels of consensus and softforks would likely be better for inspiring confidence in bitcoin.

the fork towards the view depicted in my post is not optional it will happen.

either in the form of bitcoin itself forking off this way
or
a new coin destined to fulfill bitcoin's original promise of nearly free TX's globally in a decentralized manner.

sooner or later you WILL be made to choose between high decentralization with high fees / second layer ?coming soon? Vs lower decentralization system with near 0 fees that everyone TX on equally

i believe its inevitable.

there's too much good to made from a global TX network that operate at little to no cost. if its not bitcoin that achieves this it'll be somthing like it.

[JayJuanGee]

datacentercoin is coming, bitcoin will perish!
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoM!

I Imagine a future where individual states, universities, governments, corporations, banks are the ones running bitcoin nodes.
China and USA may not agree on a lot of thing, but they will be made to participate in nakamoto consensus!!
I simply do not care if there individual citizens can't run a full node without a 10,000$ investment.
Welcome to the future of money, its a BIG DEAL.

Again, either very foolish or stupid. Bitcoin was always about individual sovereignty and now you're talking about turning it into a government/corporation coin. Nice viewpoint.  

you understand the distinction between controlled by 1 cooperation Vs decentralized amongst all cooperations. right?

the idea of bitcoin running on home computers while its only use is as a settlement layer only large corporations can afford to transact on is either very foolish or stupid.

maybe my point of view isn't "Nice" but at least its realistic.

lets not forget large corporations and banks have already said PASS on the bitcoin bandwagon, and they are on the Bitcoin bandwagon. weather you like it or not the idea of a decentralized "datacentercoin" as some like to call it, is coming. IMO, bitcoin will NOT be able to compete if it hodls desperately to maximal decentralization idealistic roadmap.

Probably one of the most dangerous dynamics in recent bitcoin discussions and publicity is when issues are framed as an "us" versus "them" manner, and causes more difficulties in compromising and more likely to go down the road of a forced hardforking, which if such forced hardforking were to occur would likely bring bitcoin prices back down into the below $200s and possibly even into the below $100s (or even single digits), which is not a positive development in terms of getting cheap coins.

It could take bitcoin some time to recover from a forced and/or contentious hard fork if it were not resolved within a short period of time... I think resolutions that define governing or mining consensus as 75% would lead to higher likelihoods of such potential contentious hardforks....   that is why resolutions of higher levels of consensus and softforks would likely be better for inspiring confidence in bitcoin.

the fork towards the view depicted in my post is not optional it will happen.

either in the form of bitcoin itself forking off this way
or
a new coin destined to fulfill bitcoin's original promise of nearly free TX's globally in a decentralized manner.

sooner or later you WILL be made to choose between high decentralization with high fees / second layer ?coming soon? Vs lower decentralization system with near 0 fees that everyone TX on equally

i believe its inevitable.

there's too much good to made from a global TX network that operate at little to no cost. if its not bitcoin that achieves this it'll be somthing like it.

Nothing is inevitable when we are dealing with markets and all the purposes that BTC potentially could serve.

Accordingly, even though you believe a hard fork is inevitable (and maybe even a contentious one is inevitable), it need not be inevitable especially if people do not want such a thing, which many reasonable people do not - because many reasonable people do not consider a contentious hardfork as "necessary", even though others are screaming that it is necessary and/or inevitable... because blah blah blah.. it is.

There may be momentum in one direction or another, and complete consensus surely is an unachievable goal, especially if the space remains decentralized and peer to peer, as is the case in bitcoinlandia.... yet if there is very high consensus, then changes can be made...

I think that it is unrealistic to expect too much too quickly from bitcoin, and even though bitcoin may be competing with paypal, credit cards and other payment systems in the long term.... in the short term, it is building its security, its confidence and its hopefully reliable storage of value which seems much more important than expecting too much too soon.



Regarding your earlier point about the daily candle, it is within two hours of closing, and looks like it could be red today.. it is going to be a close call, since price has been hovering between  $415 and $417 all day.. and maybe a little over $417.50 would cause the daily candle to come out green?  Nonetheless, at the moment, there seems to be quite a few coins blocking the way between the current price and $417.50 plus.

[bargainbin]

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Regarding your earlier point about the daily candle, it is within two hours of closing, and looks like it could be red today.. it is going to be a close call, since price has been hovering between  $415 and $417 all day.. and maybe a little over $417.50 would cause the daily candle to come out green? 

[JayJuanGee]

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Regarding your earlier point about the daily candle, it is within two hours of closing, and looks like it could be red today.. it is going to be a close call, since price has been hovering between  $415 and $417 all day.. and maybe a little over $417.50 would cause the daily candle to come out green?

Yeah... final conclusion is that yesterday's daily candle on Stamp closed out red...

I did not really make any predictions based on the daily candle turning either green or red, but if you look at Bitstamp in the past 12 days, we have 5 daily candles in a row that closed out green, then one red, and then we have another 5 greenies, and then finally the one from yesterday closing red.

Adam's implied theory seemed to have been that if the daily candle closes out red then that could increase chances for a 2% or so downward price correction.  


I doubt that he was postulating BTC prices merely based on a technical analysis, and I personally have my doubts when it comes to relying too much on technical analysis....

I think that we continue to remain in a kind of price consolidation triangle that minimally goes back a few weeks, but really zooming out further, like 4 months, the consolidation triangle therein seems likely building up more and more and more (or is the proper term coiling?) for some kind of a break out..

up or down??? I'm personally kind of torn in my view, and I can see either direction and I could even see another month, or two or possibly more of sideways while the classic/core debate continues to simmer and people can decide whether or not the blocksize/fork/governance debate is continuing to scare them or if they are prepared to put some or all of those matters behind.  The resolution of such may be experienced through whether segwit is successfully implemented in May/June-ish, which seems decent odds for some kind of successful implementation, even though it may not really quell the contentious shouting, no?

[adamstgBit]

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Regarding your earlier point about the daily candle, it is within two hours of closing, and looks like it could be red today.. it is going to be a close call, since price has been hovering between  $415 and $417 all day.. and maybe a little over $417.50 would cause the daily candle to come out green?

Yeah... final conclusion is that yesterday's daily candle on Stamp closed out red...

I did not really make any predictions based on the daily candle turning either green or red, but if you look at Bitstamp in the past 12 days, we have 5 daily candles in a row that closed out green, then one red, and then we have another 5 greenies, and then finally the one from yesterday closing red.

Adam's implied theory seemed to have been that if the daily candle closes out red then that could increase chances for a 2% or so downward price correction.  


I doubt that he was postulating BTC prices merely based on a technical analysis, and I personally have my doubts when it comes to relying too much on technical analysis....

I think that we continue to remain in a kind of price consolidation triangle that minimally goes back a few weeks, but really zooming out further, like 4 months, the consolidation triangle therein seems likely building up more and more and more (or is the proper term coiling?) for some kind of a break out..

up or down??? I'm personally kind of torn in my view, and I can see either direction and I could even see another month, or two or possibly more of sideways while the classic/core debate continues to simmer and people can decide whether or not the blocksize/fork/governance debate is continuing to scare them or if they are prepared to put some or all of those matters behind.  The resolution of such may be experienced through whether segwit is successfully implemented in May/June-ish, which seems decent odds for some kind of successful implementation, even though it may not really quell the contentious shouting, no?

right i was betting on the pattern repeating itself.
but it didnt well sorta but the red candle we got today lacked legs.
which is surprising given the never ending Classic Vs Core talk that only seem to lead to one thing rage-quits.
my guess is market is smart enough to know that any resolution in whatever direction ( classic or core ) is bullish.
so as the segwit's release inches closer, progress in whatever direction is well inevitable!

we must move up!

[adamstgBit]

[adamstgBit]

so much for quiting bitcointalk.org
i just love the controversy too much!