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November 20, 2013, 06:00:58 AM
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Not sure why people are pretending Gox doesnt matter? I guess most of you are watching your $ value take a huge drop?

Gox volume is 100% real. China is not.

A 10k sell is nothing to scoff at.

That and the 1500 wall @ 535... People understand the network is still young. This will DEFINITELY deter new money, which lets face it, is why BTC increase in value in the first place...
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November 20, 2013, 06:01:13 AM
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Not sure why people are pretending Gox doesnt matter? I guess most of you are watching your $ value take a huge drop?

Gox volume is 100% real. China is not.

A 10k sell is nothing to scoff at.
yeah btc-e has been following gox in lock step pretty much, except for the "security issue" where price dropped like a hundred bucks and the other exchanges barely moved.....
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November 20, 2013, 06:01:23 AM
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November 20, 2013, 06:01:34 AM
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Make sure to have Tor installed though.  Wink

Why would you recommend TOR...it works fine via normal ISP for me.  
Or are the Chinese BTC police gonna arrest all gweilo users  Wink
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November 20, 2013, 06:03:06 AM
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Make sure to have Tor installed though.  Wink

Why would you recommend TOR...it works fine via normal ISP for me.  
Or are the Chinese BTC police gonna arrest all gweilo users  Wink

all bitcoiners should run tor nodes...my opinion
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November 20, 2013, 06:03:55 AM
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Make sure to have Tor installed though.  Wink

Why would you recommend TOR...it works fine via normal ISP for me.  
Or are the Chinese BTC police gonna arrest all gweilo users  Wink

Because it worked fine for me too, then they locked me out for no discernable reason. Too many F5s?  Smiley

Fortunately it appears to have been an honest mistake.
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November 20, 2013, 06:04:33 AM
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So glad this crash happened early in the week!

Plenty of time to rebound before the weekend.
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November 20, 2013, 06:05:04 AM
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Not sure why people are pretending Gox doesnt matter? I guess most of you are watching your $ value take a huge drop?

Gox volume is 100% real. China is not.

A 10k sell is nothing to scoff at.

fair enough, although their volume isn't crazy high at the moment the price is relatively stable. Maybe they aren't so interested in Gox's issues? Needless to say, having more exchanges is helping A LOT.

Maybe it's crazy- but maybe the 21million coin limit is actually a problem for the price on exchanges, as long as we are thinking in terms of full coins. Maybe if people keep thinking in whole BTC there aren't enough coins for enough exchanges to have enough liquidity? I know it sounds stupid, but the more I think about it, and I think about so many empty exchanges, I start to wonder. You can't have people dumping 10K in more then one exchange at a time really. Or perhaps this will be less of an issue as time goes on....
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November 20, 2013, 06:05:21 AM
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November 20, 2013, 06:06:03 AM
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is that 535 wall real....? Shocked
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November 20, 2013, 06:07:45 AM
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Not sure why people are pretending Gox doesnt matter? I guess most of you are watching your $ value take a huge drop?

Gox volume is 100% real. China is not.

A 10k sell is nothing to scoff at.

fair enough, although their volume isn't crazy high at the moment the price is relatively stable. Maybe they aren't so interested in Gox's issues? Needless to say, having more exchanges is helping A LOT.

Maybe it's crazy- but maybe the 21million coin limit is actually a problem for the price on exchanges, as long as we are thinking in terms of full coins. Maybe if people keep thinking in whole BTC there aren't enough coins for enough exchanges to have enough liquidity? I know it sounds stupid, but the more I think about it, and I think about so many empty exchanges, I start to wonder. You can't have people dumping 10K in more then one exchange at a time really. Or perhaps this will be less of an issue as time goes on....

It will fix itself. Those coins are now in several hands and if the price goes up, it will become harder for an individual to accumulate so many.

(Though, unfortunately, not yet too hard)
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November 20, 2013, 06:08:29 AM
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is that 535 wall real....? Shocked

Only one way to find out.
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November 20, 2013, 06:09:16 AM
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is that 535 wall real....? Shocked
Of course, why? Arre you new (serious question), because that wall is only 1,500 coins (was 4,000)... and a 10,000 coin market sell just happened. That seems like the more interesting thing here Tongue


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November 20, 2013, 06:09:25 AM
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Make sure to have Tor installed though.  Wink

Why would you recommend TOR...it works fine via normal ISP for me.  
Or are the Chinese BTC police gonna arrest all gweilo users  Wink

Because it worked fine for me too, then they locked me out for no discernable reason. Too many F5s?  Smiley

Fortunately it appears to have been an honest mistake.
Yeah, I think it takes a bit of time for the accounts to verify because of all the security measures they have in place I experienced a few initial hiccups there but fortunately it was a reasonably quiet time.
Enjoy the madness of the Chinese market Smiley
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November 20, 2013, 06:09:33 AM
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is that 535 wall real....? Shocked

Only one way to find out.

Indeed.

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November 20, 2013, 06:09:45 AM
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Ready to go lower anyone?  Undecided

Charts look like the trend is somehow in the other direction as yesterday/week.  Tongue

ZOMG, glad my bitcoinreminder woke me up. Hope the west coasters are awake somehow.

edit: Not that anyone should care, but my charts say this (595) is just the dead cat bounce... yuck, guts.
Get new charts, and a sextent.  
And a first mate.

Hello there, just wanted to respond at a reasonable moment. Seeing the blood everywhere, I thought now would be a good time.

Besides the fact that the word you are intending is spelled S-E-X-T-A-N-T, you can now check the charts and see the call I made at 6:15AM PST at $595 GoxBux was precisely the beginning of the dead cat bounce.  Wink
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November 20, 2013, 06:09:56 AM
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Not sure why people are pretending Gox doesnt matter? I guess most of you are watching your $ value take a huge drop?

Gox volume is 100% real. China is not.

A 10k sell is nothing to scoff at.

If someone wants to gamble with a lot of Goxbux that's their business not mine. Tongue Price will shoot back up later, fiat on Bitstamp orderbook has already grown up to $9.5M so the demand is definitely there.
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November 20, 2013, 06:15:52 AM
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Not sure why people are pretending Gox doesnt matter? I guess most of you are watching your $ value take a huge drop?

Gox volume is 100% real. China is not.

A 10k sell is nothing to scoff at.

If someone wants to gamble with a lot of Goxbux that's their business not mine. Tongue Price will shoot back up later, fiat on Bitstamp orderbook has already grown up to $9.5M so the demand is definitely there.

For that amount he'l surely have a Japanese bank account and handful of consultant/lawyers to get his cash
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November 20, 2013, 06:17:33 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1r1gu5/starbucks_to_make_announcement_regarding_bitcoin/

"Leaker" says Starbucks to accept bitcoin by Thanksgiving.

In the middle of setting up a bitcoin bet involving SeansOutpost for escrow. Off the wall claim just got a little interesting...
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November 20, 2013, 06:18:16 AM
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Not sure why people are pretending Gox doesnt matter? I guess most of you are watching your $ value take a huge drop?

Gox volume is 100% real. China is not.

A 10k sell is nothing to scoff at.

That and the 1500 wall @ 535... People understand the network is still young. This will DEFINITELY deter new money, which lets face it, is why BTC increase in value in the first place...


Who cares about a 10k sell?   One less person with 10k to sell in the future . . .   And that 1.5k wall, you think that is anything?   Did you see the previous 1.5k get munched just after the big sell?   Took less than 5 minutes.   I suppose Stamp having 3 mil more in bids than a few days ago is new money running away . . .   Have you seen how many people in just this forum are screaming about not being able to get money in fast enough?   If I had the coins, I would manipulate this as much as I could too, this is a last stop at these price levels.
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