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December 04, 2013, 11:38:27 PM
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Capital Gains.

god damn it, i should of never sold anything  Angry

i need to learn how to hide my Capital Gains, should i dump it in BTC?  Cheesy

Dude, we have a $750k capital gains personal exemption here in Canada....use it.  

I'm going to move to New Zealand (from Australia) for a year when I sell mine. Fuck giving 45% of my BTC to the government.

If anyone wants to throw out a good tax strategy for an American, I'm all ears.  I'm dreading having to pay on my BTC profits.  


There isn't one.  You either cheat or pay.  Oh and moving won't help you.  Americans are taxed on their worldwide income and you can't give up citizenship for tax reasons.  You have to pay an exit tax on your entire holdings.

Wrong!

Live in Puerto Rico for 183 days out of the year and you do not pay captial gains tax, OR federal income tax.

We see another month like November and I'll be moving there.  Cool
can you point me to a source for this? i have family in PR and this interests me greatly. Smiley
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December 04, 2013, 11:39:24 PM
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Capital Gains.

god damn it, i should of never sold anything  Angry

i need to learn how to hide my Capital Gains, should i dump it in BTC?  Cheesy

Dude, we have a $750k capital gains personal exemption here in Canada....use it.  

I'm going to move to New Zealand (from Australia) for a year when I sell mine. Fuck giving 45% of my BTC to the government.

If anyone wants to throw out a good tax strategy for an American, I'm all ears.  I'm dreading having to pay on my BTC profits.  


There isn't one.  You either cheat or pay.  Oh and moving won't help you.  Americans are taxed on their worldwide income and you can't give up citizenship for tax reasons.  You have to pay an exit tax on your entire holdings.

Wrong!

Live in Puerto Rico for 183 days out of the year and you do not pay captial gains tax, OR federal income tax.

We see another month like November and I'll be moving there.  Cool
can you point me to a source for this? i have family in PR and this interests me greatly. Smiley

https://www.kpmg.com/us/en/issuesandinsights/articlespublications/taxnewsflash/pages/puerto-rico-tax-benefits-incentives-available-for-us-citizens.aspx
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December 04, 2013, 11:40:12 PM
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Ah yes I forgot about that one.  Although their debt is so huge and they might become a state then who knows.
Capital Gains.

god damn it, i should of never sold anything  Angry

i need to learn how to hide my Capital Gains, should i dump it in BTC?  Cheesy

Dude, we have a $750k capital gains personal exemption here in Canada....use it.  

I'm going to move to New Zealand (from Australia) for a year when I sell mine. Fuck giving 45% of my BTC to the government.

If anyone wants to throw out a good tax strategy for an American, I'm all ears.  I'm dreading having to pay on my BTC profits.  


There isn't one.  You either cheat or pay.  Oh and moving won't help you.  Americans are taxed on their worldwide income and you can't give up citizenship for tax reasons.  You have to pay an exit tax on your entire holdings.

Wrong!

Live in Puerto Rico for 183 days out of the year and you do not pay captial gains tax, OR federal income tax.

We see another month like November and I'll be moving there.  Cool
Wasn't that a one time
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December 04, 2013, 11:42:00 PM
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Ah yes I forgot about that one.  Although their debt is so huge and they might become a state then who knows.
Capital Gains.

god damn it, i should of never sold anything  Angry

i need to learn how to hide my Capital Gains, should i dump it in BTC?  Cheesy

Dude, we have a $750k capital gains personal exemption here in Canada....use it.  

I'm going to move to New Zealand (from Australia) for a year when I sell mine. Fuck giving 45% of my BTC to the government.

If anyone wants to throw out a good tax strategy for an American, I'm all ears.  I'm dreading having to pay on my BTC profits.  


There isn't one.  You either cheat or pay.  Oh and moving won't help you.  Americans are taxed on their worldwide income and you can't give up citizenship for tax reasons.  You have to pay an exit tax on your entire holdings.

Wrong!

Live in Puerto Rico for 183 days out of the year and you do not pay captial gains tax, OR federal income tax.

We see another month like November and I'll be moving there.  Cool
Wasn't that a one time

No. See KPMG guidance above.
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December 04, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
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Soon, we dine.
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December 04, 2013, 11:45:48 PM
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damn commuter train to brake down  Angry
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December 04, 2013, 11:47:36 PM
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Capital Gains.

god damn it, i should of never sold anything  Angry

i need to learn how to hide my Capital Gains, should i dump it in BTC?  Cheesy

Dude, we have a $750k capital gains personal exemption here in Canada....use it. 

I'm going to move to New Zealand (from Australia) for a year when I sell mine. Fuck giving 45% of my BTC to the government.

What's the deal in Aus anyway?   How do they even know the money you recieve is Bitcoin related, or how long you've owned those coins (assuming the over one year - 50% cap gains applies)?
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December 04, 2013, 11:48:27 PM
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ATH in Euros in MTGox: 895 €
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December 04, 2013, 11:48:57 PM
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Isn't tax only 15% capital gains after 1 year?

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December 04, 2013, 11:52:30 PM
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Works fine for gold

Yes, and gold is used in day to day transactions by regular consumers all the time...  Roll Eyes

Bitcoin won't be used in day to day transactions by regular consumers all the time. It won't be a currency. It's a store of value thing, like gold.  Roll Eyes

Agree.  It will become the crypto store of value against which other crypto's, better suited to rapid small value transactions, peg themselves.  Which is why I'm holding onto my LTC.  It won't achieve this though until it becomes a store of safe value, which requires it's price fluctuations to moderate.  This is what is happening now. (in my entirely ignorant opinion Smiley
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December 04, 2013, 11:54:01 PM
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Isn't tax only 15% capital gains after 1 year?

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Approaching ATH on Gox!

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December 05, 2013, 12:00:17 AM
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Hm, why do the wall charts on http://trading.i286.org/ and on http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mtgox/btcusd don't seem to match at any scale?
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December 05, 2013, 12:06:45 AM
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Come on... we're so close to the ATH... and to gold price too Shocked !!

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December 05, 2013, 12:07:07 AM
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Vycid, you went and did it there.
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December 05, 2013, 12:08:16 AM
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ATH on Gox soon.

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December 05, 2013, 12:15:37 AM
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Hm, why do the wall charts on http://trading.i286.org/ and on http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mtgox/btcusd don't seem to match at any scale?
Nvm, seems i hadn't tried all scales yet.
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December 05, 2013, 12:16:39 AM
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Hm, nice wall at 1220...
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December 05, 2013, 12:19:08 AM
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Isn't tax only 15% capital gains after 1 year?

In the US, if you are in the two lowest tax brackets, long-term capital gains are taxed at 0%. That's how you legally avoid paying taxes on your bitcoin cash-outs.
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December 05, 2013, 12:24:52 AM
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Isn't tax only 15% capital gains after 1 year?

In the US, if you are in the two lowest tax brackets, long-term capital gains are taxed at 0%. That's how you legally avoid paying taxes on your bitcoin cash-outs.

So...

I gotta quit my job to cash out?
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