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[Biodom]

I think homer should just use that uniform hat.

What is the nomenclature on that Dabs?

It's called a "Pershing Cap" or more generically "Service Cap" ... duckduckgo images shows a bunch.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pershing+cap

Hey man it suits you very well
Welcome HAT carrier

Good gonna save my strenght and dive into my HODLcrib next to me HODLchick
And looking forward to catch Some good wel earned BOOZE tomorrow
Good night WO’s and enjoy the sparkling green for NOW its here

Edit: btw I think I can handle sales very well 1K burgers only today NOW what about that
Still for tech bitserve.... I think I can really learn from almost every regular poster of the WO thread
But I Will do my best always
.............

And F*** even my girl can do Some programming

The best place for anyone who is good at sales is, without a doubt, the good ol' USA.
Good salespersons are one of the most important people in most companies, because...they bring in the dough.
Compensation usually follows.

I’m telling him to get a basic level of skill so he can work in the tech industry.

I have to hire people with tech skills and wages are through the roof right now because the particular skill set is so damn rare you have to grow your own, and then your competitors steal them. 

Autists with tech skills are easy to find.  People skills people who can’t do tech are easy to find.   People skills people with tech skills are extremely valuable.

Bingo!

[bitserve]

Roach I’m not telling him to be a coder.  

I’m telling him to get a basic level of skill so he can work in the tech industry.

I have to hire people with tech skills and wages are through the roof right now because the particular skill set is so damn rare you have to grow your own, and then your competitors steal them.  

Autists with tech skills are easy to find.  People skills people who can’t do tech are easy to find.   People skills people with tech skills are extremely valuable.

You don't need anyone in Spain do you? Anyways, I am aware my social skills pale in comparison to those of the great Mic.

[realr0ach]

Roach I’m not telling him to be a coder.  

I’m telling him to get a basic level of skill so he can work in the tech industry.

I have to hire people with tech skills and wages are through the roof right now because the particular skill set is so damn rare you have to grow your own, and then your competitors steal them.  

You're speaking from a pre-bubble implosion position.  This is the eve before 2008 before everything goes off a cliff again, except probably far worse this time.  I talked to some Australian the other day that was making decent money making ENDLESS RUNNER phone video games.  This is the worst type of video game that exists, yet he's somehow making decent cash making them (entirely subsidized by advertising which is currently imploding).  

Plan for the future, not the present.  There will soon be zero demand for people like that and talent will flood the market like a torrent.  Things are like the exact opposite of how people such as Anonymint describe them.  He says the future is a knowledge age where intellectual capital is king.  He seems to have overlooked when the economy blows up, nobody actually needs people who make endless runner video games, but people still need the same amount of plumbing work and everything else done.  So intellectual capital people are going to be the ones kinda getting obliterated in the short and medium term at least.

You're not really safe in the short or medium term unless you're doing something related to the base of Maslow's Pyramid.

[bitserve]

Is anybody disgusted with how ALL crypto goes up in unison with bitcoin, as if they are all on and the same?
This has to stop after five years of btc and others being in the public eye.
Ridiculous.

All crypto is shit except Bitcoin.  This should not come as a surprise to anyone on this board.  Metcalfe’s law, first mover advantage, natural monopoly and all that.

All shitcoin = shit and more shittie is that I probably of my +- 15% that I have in shitcoins I do own the most shittie ones, how shitF***ed is that
Gonna get myself totaly wasted on that
And thx for the MCDonald work read, I hate the F***ing shitjob here.....
I’m in year 7 of wasting time as the Guy you wrote about dammit i’m in a shitF***ed position right now SHIT

Goose

Start here.  It’s free.  Teach yourself to program.

https://www.udacity.com/course/intro-to-computer-science--cs101

There is BIG money for people who understand money, crypto and programming

Mic has (way more) the intelligence to learn it easily but he probably doesn't have the right "personality" to really focus on that task. He is too much of an extrovert guy than a "nerd" even if he has some traits like his outstanding poker skills.

Which is probably a good thing.

Thx man, still don’t make me a to smart looking Guy, Maybe i have getting things a little easy last few years, how I got introduced into crypto, how my boy took care of me with every single thing, Made every single thing for me etc
Most of this is of-course in my own hands by NOW ... probably everything (except a few thing we do together and thats running with him ....)

But thx bitserve for those kind Words

Wait till you Guys meet this lunatic @the 100K party
(Don’t Ask me to much question IRL Then) haha lol
And drink Some with me and have Some good laughs

I just hope we are still young when the $100K party comes. It will be almost surreal if it ever comes to reality. There's a chance though.

[realr0ach]

!!!!! speechless...
Never had you for a gamer r0ach.

Yes, it's shocking to see someone mention video games on a forum solely composed of scammers, pump and dump scammers, programmer scammers, and people who play video games that discovered it might be possible to make money with their idle GPU.

[Biodom]

An interesting point from Pomp:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/aoms2f/people_are_going_to_be_so_shook_when_the_wealthy/

People are going to be so shook when the wealthy of tomorrow are the Bitcoiners of today

Would not bother me one bit.
Rewatched the "Social network" recently.
Was Eduardo worthy the current $9bil, most of which is probably the facebook stock?
He wasn't even with the company apart from the initial short stint there, "immortalized" by the movie.
His initial $1000, then 19K contribution was probably one of the best investments done by anyone, EVER.
All random, of course.

Therefore, if some schmuck (or genius  ) bought 20K bitcoin in 2010 for $3k bucks, so be it.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/software-engineer-buys-20000-btc-in-2010-quits-job-to-travel-around-globe

I remember seeing historical reddit posts where someone was selling 10K btc for $25 or something like this (maybe $50, cannot find it now).

Even 1-10BTC might be very serious money later on since an average $$ millionaire can get only 0.3 btc (or less).

[realr0ach]

Interesting point from Pomp:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/aoms2f/people_are_going_to_be_so_shook_when_the_wealthy/

People are going to be so shook when the wealthy of tomorrow are the Bitcoiners of today

This is what you see people spam in the Poloniex trollbox right before something implodes to zero.

[JayJuanGee]

I just hope we are still young when the $100K party comes. It will be almost surreal if it ever comes to reality. There's a chance though.

We are all going to be in crutches, wheelchairs and with personal assistants and oxogen tanks.  

Sucks to be HODLers.

[jojo69]

Bullshit it was a media show, that's why CNN was on scene for the arrest. It was intimidation and bullshit.

I have to say I agree.

I think we must resign ourselves to the fact that this is how things are going to be done from here on out...until all pretenses of due process are abandoned.

[rebal15]

Is anybody disgusted with how ALL crypto goes up in unison with bitcoin, as if they are all on and the same?
This has to stop after five years of btc and others being in the public eye.
Ridiculous.

All crypto is shit except Bitcoin.  This should not come as a surprise to anyone on this board.  Metcalfe’s law, first mover advantage, natural monopoly and all that.

All shitcoin = shit and more shittie is that I probably of my +- 15% that I have in shitcoins I do own the most shittie ones, how shitF***ed is that
Gonna get myself totaly wasted on that
And thx for the MCDonald work read, I hate the F***ing shitjob here.....
I’m in year 7 of wasting time as the Guy you wrote about dammit i’m in a shitF***ed position right now SHIT

Goose

Start here.  It’s free.  Teach yourself to program.

https://www.udacity.com/course/intro-to-computer-science--cs101

There is BIG money for people who understand money, crypto and programming

Mic has (way more) the intelligence to learn it easily but he probably doesn't have the right "personality" to really focus on that task. He is too much of an extrovert guy than a "nerd" even if he has some traits like his outstanding poker skills.

Which is probably a good thing.

Thx man, still don’t make me a to smart looking Guy, Maybe i have getting things a little easy last few years, how I got introduced into crypto, how my boy took care of me with every single thing, Made every single thing for me etc
Most of this is of-course in my own hands by NOW ... probably everything (except a few thing we do together and thats running with him ....)

But thx bitserve for those kind Words

Wait till you Guys meet this lunatic @the 100K party
(Don’t Ask me to much question IRL Then) haha lol
And drink Some with me and have Some good laughs

I just hope we are still young when the $100K party comes. It will be almost surreal if it ever comes to reality. There's a chance though.

sometimes I wonder if you are crazy or your mind is 100% imaginary. you keep talking about 100k as is like going to next days. even if BTC reach 100K it will not happen before 10 years. are you promoting BTC on bitcointalk?

[bitserve]

Is anybody disgusted with how ALL crypto goes up in unison with bitcoin, as if they are all on and the same?
This has to stop after five years of btc and others being in the public eye.
Ridiculous.

All crypto is shit except Bitcoin.  This should not come as a surprise to anyone on this board.  Metcalfe’s law, first mover advantage, natural monopoly and all that.

All shitcoin = shit and more shittie is that I probably of my +- 15% that I have in shitcoins I do own the most shittie ones, how shitF***ed is that
Gonna get myself totaly wasted on that
And thx for the MCDonald work read, I hate the F***ing shitjob here.....
I’m in year 7 of wasting time as the Guy you wrote about dammit i’m in a shitF***ed position right now SHIT

Goose

Start here.  It’s free.  Teach yourself to program.

https://www.udacity.com/course/intro-to-computer-science--cs101

There is BIG money for people who understand money, crypto and programming

Mic has (way more) the intelligence to learn it easily but he probably doesn't have the right "personality" to really focus on that task. He is too much of an extrovert guy than a "nerd" even if he has some traits like his outstanding poker skills.

Which is probably a good thing.

Thx man, still don’t make me a to smart looking Guy, Maybe i have getting things a little easy last few years, how I got introduced into crypto, how my boy took care of me with every single thing, Made every single thing for me etc
Most of this is of-course in my own hands by NOW ... probably everything (except a few thing we do together and thats running with him ....)

But thx bitserve for those kind Words

Wait till you Guys meet this lunatic @the 100K party
(Don’t Ask me to much question IRL Then) haha lol
And drink Some with me and have Some good laughs

I just hope we are still young when the $100K party comes. It will be almost surreal if it ever comes to reality. There's a chance though.

sometimes I wonder if you are crazy or your mind is 100% imaginary. you keep talking about 100k as is like going to next days. even if BTC reach 100K it will not happen before 10 years. are you promoting BTC on bitcointalk?

If you know how to read you will see I not only doubt it will ever reach $100K but, in case it does, also doubt it will come anytime soon. You know how to read, don't you?

[encycrypto]

Bitcoin Hashrate Hits 3-Month High

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/aoimpn/bitcoin_hashrate_hits_3month_high/

Interesting point from Pomp:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/aoms2f/people_are_going_to_be_so_shook_when_the_wealthy/

People are going to be so shook when the wealthy of tomorrow are the Bitcoiners of today

This is what you see people spam in the Poloniex trollbox right before something implodes to zero.

XD XD XD

[bitserve]

I just hope we are still young when the $100K party comes. It will be almost surreal if it ever comes to reality. There's a chance though.

We are all going to be in crutches, wheelchairs and with personal assistants and oxogen tanks.  

Sucks to be HODLers.

We can always send our assistants to make some awesome explosions and fireworks with the oxygen tanks. Sounds fun to me.

[bitcoinminer42]

Regardless, the whole "learn to code" thing could probably be considered a decent investment in the 80's, 90's, and early 2000's, but now with full blown global labor arbitrage everywhere, it doesn't seem like that great of a position when you have to compete with people who will work for 1/4th to 1/10th of what you will.  The effectiveness of tariffs to stop the work from being outsourced is much lower than other fields too.  

Have you looked at the video game industry and whole 'app store' bullshit lately?  It's an obvious huge bubble as well.  90% of these game devs are going to be getting the axe or going bankrupt and it will be far more brutal than the old Atari era industry crashes.  We are currently at the trough of the commodity super cycle (no, bitcoin is not a real commodity), so people invested in real world goods and industry should be making a killing soon while 'intellectual capital' will probably be taking a major hit.

Of course when I say "industry", I don't mean index stocks where the PE ratio is completely laughable like Amazon and everything else.  I mean the rise of commodity prices in general and people who benefit from that like miners and others.

calm down.... maybe the costs are 1/10 in india or 1/6-1/8 in the middle east... but what about the quality? cost for setting up such projects? communications overhead? cultural clashes? and so on and so forth...

maybe u can do some product development like this but integrating complex systems who fits customer needs.... nah... story of cost savings by <near|off>shoring are fairy tales told by the management.

i've seen a lot of projects dying due to missmanagement and wrong beliefs in the posibilities of shoring.

it's like buying a german/japan car or a chinese/US lunchbox  

u'll get what u pay for  

and please start distinguish between programming, development engineering and integrating... even programming is not everbodies taste... building good, stable, secure, user-friendly systems which are scalable and reliable is much harder

[bitcoinminer42]

so one merit for u to be that missionary 

[bitserve]

so one merit for u to be that missionary 

[HairyMaclairy]

Bob offer to pay him 90% fiat 10% bitcoin just to get him started. He can take that risk. 

[encycrypto]

Regardless, the whole "learn to code" thing could probably be considered a decent investment in the 80's, 90's, and early 2000's, but now with full blown global labor arbitrage everywhere, it doesn't seem like that great of a position when you have to compete with people who will work for 1/4th to 1/10th of what you will.  The effectiveness of tariffs to stop the work from being outsourced is much lower than other fields too.  

Have you looked at the video game industry and whole 'app store' bullshit lately?  It's an obvious huge bubble as well.  90% of these game devs are going to be getting the axe or going bankrupt and it will be far more brutal than the old Atari era industry crashes.  We are currently at the trough of the commodity super cycle (no, bitcoin is not a real commodity), so people invested in real world goods and industry should be making a killing soon while 'intellectual capital' will probably be taking a major hit.

Of course when I say "industry", I don't mean index stocks where the PE ratio is completely laughable like Amazon and everything else.  I mean the rise of commodity prices in general and people who benefit from that like miners and others.

calm down.... maybe the costs are 1/10 in india or 1/6-1/8 in the middle east... but what about the quality? cost for setting up such projects? communications overhead? cultural clashes? and so on and so forth...

maybe u can do some product development like this but integrating complex systems who fits customer needs.... nah... story of cost savings by <near|off>shoring are fairy tales told by the management.

i've seen a lot of projects dying due to missmanagement and wrong beliefs in the posibilities of shoring.

it's like buying a german/japan car or a chinese/US lunchbox  

u'll get what u pay for  

and please start distinguish between programming, development engineering and integrating... even programming is not everbodies taste... building good, stable, secure, user-friendly systems which are scalable and reliable is much harder

Roach isn't talking much bs today, he does have a point there. The people of poor countries all across the globe are now beginning to master the coding, and the day when they'll have just about good quality as top tier countries' programmers, the situation will be catastrophic for coders from rich countries. Plus the remote setups definitely gives the option of saving a big chunk of budget if you're starting something related to programming.

[bitcoinminer42]

Regardless, the whole "learn to code" thing could probably be considered a decent investment in the 80's, 90's, and early 2000's, but now with full blown global labor arbitrage everywhere, it doesn't seem like that great of a position when you have to compete with people who will work for 1/4th to 1/10th of what you will.  The effectiveness of tariffs to stop the work from being outsourced is much lower than other fields too.  

Have you looked at the video game industry and whole 'app store' bullshit lately?  It's an obvious huge bubble as well.  90% of these game devs are going to be getting the axe or going bankrupt and it will be far more brutal than the old Atari era industry crashes.  We are currently at the trough of the commodity super cycle (no, bitcoin is not a real commodity), so people invested in real world goods and industry should be making a killing soon while 'intellectual capital' will probably be taking a major hit.

Of course when I say "industry", I don't mean index stocks where the PE ratio is completely laughable like Amazon and everything else.  I mean the rise of commodity prices in general and people who benefit from that like miners and others.

calm down.... maybe the costs are 1/10 in india or 1/6-1/8 in the middle east... but what about the quality? cost for setting up such projects? communications overhead? cultural clashes? and so on and so forth...

maybe u can do some product development like this but integrating complex systems who fits customer needs.... nah... story of cost savings by <near|off>shoring are fairy tales told by the management.

i've seen a lot of projects dying due to missmanagement and wrong beliefs in the posibilities of shoring.

it's like buying a german/japan car or a chinese/US lunchbox  

u'll get what u pay for  

and please start distinguish between programming, development engineering and integrating... even programming is not everbodies taste... building good, stable, secure, user-friendly systems which are scalable and reliable is much harder

Roach isn't talking much bs today, he does have a point there. The people of poor countries all across the globe are now beginning to master the coding, and the day when they'll have just about good quality as top tier countries' programmers, the situation will be catastrophic for coders from rich countries. Plus the remote setups definitely gives the option of saving a big chunk of budget if you're starting something related to programming.

read what i wrote....

i work for companies with such settings since decades
there are many issues on top but yeah... it can work... but the case why doing this changed during the last years... it's less saving money... it's more about having some "programmers" at all...
the market of free developers is fished out.

and even those countries will become more rich and produce personal needs on programming resources.

maybe it's just because programmers are the last species who will be replaced by robots  

but i agree... if you are just a programmer with no other skills. it will get harder for you in the future

[Ibian]

Schelling point.

Your theory is wrong. Wrong as in the labor theory of value wrong.