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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 4 (3%)
<$6,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.8%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.5%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.3%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (4.5%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (9.1%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (4.5%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (8.3%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
>$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
$20,000 - 9 (6.8%)
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January 24, 2019, 12:18:33 PM

What is Bitcoin?
It is just this.
It cannot be rendered into price.
If you insist on an explanation,
This means exactly this.

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January 24, 2019, 12:27:51 PM

We didn’t need an ETF to see the price close to $20,000 so I assume we won’t need one to touch the next ATH. Fuck the SEC & fuck authority. They fear the beast that bitcoin will become.

I hope you’re all buying whilst the price is this low gentlemen!

Now is definitely the time to buy. Think of it this way - Let’s say you have $10,000 in a fiat savings account. It will earn maybe 2% interest per year (if you’re lucky).

There are good & bad times to buy bitcoin. Buying at what seems like the bottom or at least close to the bottom of a cycle after a new ATH it definitely a good time.

Let’s say you put half of that $10,000 into bitcoin now. I think it’s safe to assume that you’re very, very likely to see that money outperform your fiat savings account by a big % 12-18 months from now.

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2% of actual increase on top of the 10K, what country, planet are you from..... we have to pay for having a bank account, and probably the time will come we have to pay, to may save money on a/that bank account Roll Eyes

I am getting %3 (after taxes) for my usd here in Turkey. There are banks giving more than 4.5% for USD. 2.5% for Euro. One of few advantages living in a corrupted country.

It is still a risky investment though i am quite happy with the returns especially for a shit investment like this.

I am getting around 200 usd/month just from interest and buying crypto with it. Feels quite good. :d
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We didn’t need an ETF to see the price close to $20,000 so I assume we won’t need one to touch the next ATH. Fuck the SEC & fuck authority. They fear the beast that bitcoin will become.

I hope you’re all buying whilst the price is this low gentlemen!

Now is definitely the time to buy. Think of it this way - Let’s say you have $10,000 in a fiat savings account. It will earn maybe 2% interest per year (if you’re lucky).

There are good & bad times to buy bitcoin. Buying at what seems like the bottom or at least close to the bottom of a cycle after a new ATH it definitely a good time.

Let’s say you put half of that $10,000 into bitcoin now. I think it’s safe to assume that you’re very, very likely to see that money outperform your fiat savings account by a big % 12-18 months from now.

Smiley



2% of actual increase on top of the 10K, what country, planet are you from..... we have to pay for having a bank account, and probably the time will come we have to pay, to may save money on a/that bank account Roll Eyes

I am getting %3 (after taxes) for my usd here in Turkey. There are banks giving more than 4.5% for USD. 2.5% for Euro. One of few advantages living in a corrupted country.

It is still a risky investment though i am quite happy with the returns especially for a shit investment like this.

I am getting around 200 usd/month just from interest and buying crypto with it. Feels quite good. :d
In 2017 if you bought BTC at $700 you had almost 30x profit. How is 4% interest better than that?!? In 2019 and 2020 BTC will make at least 5x profit starting with the current prices. So for me there is no point keeping deposits in banks for interest. I also had 4.5% interest but widthdrew all of it to buy bitcoins in the Summer of 2017.  
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Wow.. but where will it be stored? In your Samsung account online or inside mobile offline?
And more is it from Samsung or Android itself?


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Samsung said that smartphones are the safest devices for storing digital currencies. According to the electronics giant, “spendable” cryptocurrency may be securely stored on mobile phones because they use a Trusted Execution Environment (TEE).

As explained by Samsung in a blog post, the TEE runs in its own independent execution environment, so that its persistent storage (normally a hard disk drive) and random-access-memory (RAM) are separate from a mobile phone’s operating system (OS).

Because there’s an independent run-time environment, the Android OS does not have direct access to the TEE. This means that even if the OS gets hacked, the attacker will not be able to access the data in the TEE. The only way to access data in the TEE is through a compatible application programming interface (API), according to Samsung.
https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/12/samsung-files-trademark-application-for-cryptocurrency-wallet-software/
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I would be very unhappy if my phone got stolen with all my crypto on it Cheesy
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January 24, 2019, 12:55:41 PM

I would be very unhappy if my phone got stolen with all my crypto on it Cheesy

Presumably they’d be password protected & backed up to some sort of cloud? You could recover your coins then on a new phone?
Be dumb to keep your main stash on your phone any way. Every day spending amounts would be cool though.
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I would be very unhappy if my phone got stolen with all my crypto on it Cheesy
phone wallets are meant to be used for quick transactions, so you'd normally keep just a portion of your holdings there.
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I would be very unhappy if my phone got stolen with all my crypto on it Cheesy

this wallet is not supposed to store large amounts. I think this should only be used like a old school fiat wallet.
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I would be very unhappy if my phone got stolen with all my crypto on it Cheesy

Presumably they’d be password protected & backed up to some sort of cloud? You could recover your coins then on a new phone?
Be dumb to keep your main stash on your phone any way. Every day spending amounts would be cool though.

Yes but again, it would be just as secured as the place your store you backup is.
Also if you can only restore it in another samsung wallet, you are kinda hooked by samsung and have to buy a new ... samsung phone.

not something i look forward to.

I'd rather buy that crap bluetooth Ledger X.

For the meanwhile I will wait for ledger to allow me to connect my ledger S to my phone via OTG. Just missing their ledger live app for android.
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I would be very unhappy if my phone got stolen with all my crypto on it Cheesy

this wallet is not supposed to store large amounts. I think this should only be used like a old school fiat wallet.

Exactly pointed that out as well in the french thread.
Compatibility with some of the newest NFC payment terminals would be awesome. Like if the terminal could handle Visa & crypto.
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We didn’t need an ETF to see the price close to $20,000 so I assume we won’t need one to touch the next ATH. Fuck the SEC & fuck authority. They fear the beast that bitcoin will become.

I hope you’re all buying whilst the price is this low gentlemen!

Now is definitely the time to buy. Think of it this way - Let’s say you have $10,000 in a fiat savings account. It will earn maybe 2% interest per year (if you’re lucky).

There are good & bad times to buy bitcoin. Buying at what seems like the bottom or at least close to the bottom of a cycle after a new ATH it definitely a good time.

Let’s say you put half of that $10,000 into bitcoin now. I think it’s safe to assume that you’re very, very likely to see that money outperform your fiat savings account by a big % 12-18 months from now.

Smiley



2% of actual increase on top of the 10K, what country, planet are you from..... we have to pay for having a bank account, and probably the time will come we have to pay, to may save money on a/that bank account Roll Eyes

I am getting %3 (after taxes) for my usd here in Turkey. There are banks giving more than 4.5% for USD. 2.5% for Euro. One of few advantages living in a corrupted country.

It is still a risky investment though i am quite happy with the returns especially for a shit investment like this.

I am getting around 200 usd/month just from interest and buying crypto with it. Feels quite good. :d
In 2017 if you bought BTC at $700 you had almost 3x profit. How is 4% interest better than that?!? In 2019 and 2020 BTC will make at least 5x profit starting with the current prices. So for me there is no point keeping deposits in banks for interest. I also had 4.5% interest but widthdrew all of it to buy bitcoins in the Summer of 2017. 
You did a good buy back Then .... Wink
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I would be very unhappy if my phone got stolen with all my crypto on it Cheesy

Presumably they’d be password protected & backed up to some sort of cloud? You could recover your coins then on a new phone?
Be dumb to keep your main stash on your phone any way. Every day spending amounts would be cool though.

Yes but again, it would be just as secured as the place your store you backup is.
Also if you can only restore it in another samsung wallet, you are kinda hooked by samsung and have to buy a new ... samsung phone.

not something i look forward to.

I'd rather buy that crap bluetooth Ledger X.

For the meanwhile I will wait for ledger to allow me to connect my ledger S to my phone via OTG. Just missing their ledger live app for android.

Yeah, I only just got the Nano S bastards
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In 2017 if you bought BTC at $700 you had almost 3x profit. How is 4% interest better than that?!? In 2019 and 2020 BTC will make at least 5x profit starting with the current prices. So for me there is no point keeping deposits in banks for interest. I also had 4.5% interest but widthdrew all of it to buy bitcoins in the Summer of 2017.  

Now compare that with the 0.50% (at best case) we have in Greece, from which they then subtract tax! Cheesy
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January 24, 2019, 01:26:14 PM

I would be very unhappy if my phone got stolen with all my crypto on it Cheesy

this wallet is not supposed to store large amounts. I think this should only be used like a old school fiat wallet.

Exactly pointed that out as well in the french thread.
Compatibility with some of the newest NFC payment terminals would be awesome. Like if the terminal could handle Visa & crypto.
Except how fucking slow would that rollout be? In the US we still have payment terminals requiring you to swipe instead of inserting the chip, which I'm pretty sure has been mandated by law.
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I would be very unhappy if my phone got stolen with all my crypto on it Cheesy

Presumably they’d be password protected & backed up to some sort of cloud? You could recover your coins then on a new phone?
Be dumb to keep your main stash on your phone any way. Every day spending amounts would be cool though.

Yes but again, it would be just as secured as the place your store you backup is.
Also if you can only restore it in another samsung wallet, you are kinda hooked by samsung and have to buy a new ... samsung phone.

not something i look forward to.

I'd rather buy that crap bluetooth Ledger X.

For the meanwhile I will wait for ledger to allow me to connect my ledger S to my phone via OTG. Just missing their ledger live app for android.

Yeah, I only just got the Nano S bastards
Be happy Globb0 its the best device Wink especially when their are Some won BTC on it Cheesy

I have a ledger blue as well, but prefer the nano s more Smiley
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January 24, 2019, 01:30:25 PM

Except how fucking slow would that rollout be? In the US we still have payment terminals requiring you to swipe instead of inserting the chip, which I'm pretty sure has been mandated by law.

Dunno for the USA. In france the deployment of NFC  was blazing fast tho. Few years and like everybody has it.

Be happy Globb0 its the best device Wink especially when their are Some won BTC on it Cheesy

I have a ledger blue as well, but prefer the nano s more Smiley

Love mine too. best Black Friday investment ever.
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January 24, 2019, 01:35:33 PM

Except how fucking slow would that rollout be? In the US we still have payment terminals requiring you to swipe instead of inserting the chip, which I'm pretty sure has been mandated by law.

Dunno for the USA. In france the deployment of NFC  was blazing fast tho. Few years and like everybody has it.

Be happy Globb0 its the best device Wink especially when their are Some won BTC on it Cheesy

I have a ledger blue as well, but prefer the nano s more Smiley

Love mine too. best Black Friday investment ever.
Now I understand a bit about France, so you must be talking only the major cities, I doubt villages have NFC payments going on. The US is really vast, and lots of the smaller towns don't follow trend, I figure this is the same with France and their small villages. The exception for the small towns are the large corporations.
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