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Author Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion  (Read 26449830 times)
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December 21, 2020, 09:08:44 PM
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Just generate your own addresses on a secure system.

I recommend adding a BIP38 password to your private key, this way you can print them on an insecure printer/save backups wherever you like without fear of someone finding your unprotected private keys. It's the "BIP38 Encrypt?" option on bitaddress.org

Obviously they are only as secure as your chosen password, so make it a strong one.

edit: just found out you can use emojis in your password  Cheesy

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Test 3:
Passphrase ϓ␀𐐀💩 (\u03D2\u0301\u0000\U00010400\U0001F4A9; GREEK UPSILON WITH HOOK, COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT, NULL, DESERET CAPITAL LETTER LONG I, PILE OF POO)
Encrypted key: 6PRW5o9FLp4gJDDVqJQKJFTpMvdsSGJxMYHtHaQBF3ooa8mwD69bapcDQn
Bitcoin Address: 16ktGzmfrurhbhi6JGqsMWf7TyqK9HNAeF
Unencrypted private key (WIF): 5Jajm8eQ22H3pGWLEVCXyvND8dQZhiQhoLJNKjYXk9roUFTMSZ4
Note: The non-standard UTF-8 characters in this passphrase should be NFC normalized to result in a passphrase of 0xcf9300f0909080f09f92a9 before further processing
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0038.mediawiki
The idea of nonstandard, extended unicode characters does not resonate well with me. Some nasty bug around the corner could turn you into a hero who offers his stash as a sacrifice against inflation. I mean you could LOSE your COINS.

I'd stick to standard ASCII just in case. Just make it long and random enough, you're good to go. IMHO YMMV etc.
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December 21, 2020, 09:10:27 PM

Those dumps for ants that quickly bounce back up are so amusing...

Most observers would see high volatility.
I see a stable, upward trend.
Must be my eyes...

HoDL.

It could be your eyes
see no volatility
or your hodler mind.



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December 21, 2020, 09:12:46 PM
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Left this thread five days
Getting back up to date then
Is a full-time job...
If you like scrolling more than clicking: see WallObserver.tk/7d.html Cheesy

How is it possible, that after all these hours and days I've spent on these fugging boards, I still discover something new at least once a week...

(and in 95% of the cases, it's indeed one of your creations, LoyceV Grin)

Anyway, I'm out of sMerit atm, but here's +5 WOsMerit to keep you counting for a while Wink

End of the year administration and fiscal stuff etc. so I'm not very active on the boards in the last few days (yes, I know, missing out on all the exciting shit happening in crypto world atm...). Soon as I find a bit of spare time, I'll be back in full form for some "(s)Merit Begging 2.0" and will send you some... Promise! Kiss

I'm quite sure we'll see each other before XMAS, WO guys, but just in case: have fun & happy XMAS!
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December 21, 2020, 09:19:15 PM
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Breaking 24777$ prediction game      FINAL LIST        

27/12/2017 bikerleszno Sad
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31/12/2017 Raja_MBZ
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...8/12/2021 luckygenough56

MERRY XMAS TO Y'ALL     AND GOOD LUCK

Just for supporting this I think 3 y old game or something

Remember those times

Look at all those Doe eyed Young innocent Dreamers with no clue the pain they will bear having their souls crushed while slogging through the winter.
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December 21, 2020, 09:26:36 PM
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An auction usually "starts from". Out of 100 rooms for sale during the auction only 10 were sold. So in every category of cabin you could have purchased at the lowest price. We wanted the auction to catch any problems where someone wants two rooms right next to each other or in front of each other but someone else wants that room. Let the highest bidder have it.
I see your point and I do not doubt your honesty. I just meant the prices quoted are the basis for the auction, so just a lower bound. Had there been more prospective buyers, the final price would have been higher. Possibly much higher.

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I'm not sure what you mean by "hard rules about living onboard". You think there would be more rules on a ship run by anarchists than the island that was .5 miles from the ship or on land that was 6 miles from the ship?
It's a ship at any rate. The captain makes the rules, not me (or Elwar, for that matter). And it's not a cruise, where it's important to make the customers happy so they bring more. It's a residential community, and the officials are unelected politicians.

The fact that it's just .5 miles from the shore makes the prospects much milder, but can it stay there? We've seen it can't be taken for granted. And even if it could, then it's Panama (or wherever) laws.

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Did people truly think we were putting the ship 200 miles out in middle of international waters with no way to escape?
It could become necessary to do so, at least for some stretch of time. I'm not implying it would be done on purpose, cause it ain't no fun for sure.


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If this is what people believed it may have been our marketing that did us in.
Might well be. The idea of living in a monopoly where drinking water has a price determined by scarcity, surrounded by bigger fish (onboard and offboard!  Grin) is scary. If the only money is bitcoin, it's scarier enough for the small fish. One thing bitcoiners understand is the price dynamics of scarcity.

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We believed people wanted to test out seasteading even if it was just the first step at a much cheaper price than any seastead in the future will ever ever be again (we paid less than scrap prices for what was essentially a ready made seastead, just the cost of the raw material). All future seasteads will need to pay for not only the raw material but the labor, shipyard costs, government interference, and likely a company that actually wants to make a profit instead of a couple of guys that want to make something happen so much that they're willing to break even as long as we can make something great happen.

That's why I am sympathetic with this project and I always had respect for you. I support you and wish you the best of luck for your next endeavor, should you ever feel like taking on a new one. I couldn't get myself to buy a cabin, though. I was entertaining the thought "I'll have a cruise when the thing takes off" (if it's not a sausage fest).
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December 21, 2020, 10:11:22 PM

Page 27777 would be a lovely page parity page
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December 21, 2020, 10:15:39 PM
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#Bitcoin is beautiful

Star-struck ~100M UTXO's adding up to current 18.6M BTC.

X-axis: time from block 0 2009 to block 660879 Dec 2020.
Y-axis: size from 1 sat to 1M BTC.

See Satoshi coins (red line upper left corner) and most UTXO in 2020 (red right).

Data from my node-> python-> gnuplot

https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1341141862845984768
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December 21, 2020, 10:58:51 PM

Nice page to post on. And man it has been a good week here, really thinking I should renew my pilots license and buy a plane or something.

Go bitcoin go!
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December 21, 2020, 11:16:36 PM
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Tis the season Wink

Go Bitcoin  
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December 21, 2020, 11:21:00 PM

Nice page to post on. And man it has been a good week here, really thinking I should renew my pilots license and buy a plane or something.

Go bitcoin go!

Keep posting on the next few pages if you want to permanently get on page 27777. People will probably start deleting posts to move themselves from the next few pages onto this one.
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December 21, 2020, 11:49:44 PM

Naaaah people can’t possibly be that stupid.... to be on a page....  Kiss
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December 22, 2020, 12:04:21 AM

Naaaah people can’t possibly be that stupid.... to be on a page....  Kiss

 Roll Eyes

... HODL my beer
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December 22, 2020, 12:14:35 AM

Did the latest UBI inflation bill pass?
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December 22, 2020, 12:16:09 AM

evening charts

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Did the latest UBI inflation bill pass?

Oh ok, twist my arm, I'll take it...
More free bitcoin I guess, but godamnit,  the price is ridiculous compared to last time!!



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December 22, 2020, 12:36:20 AM

Nice page to post on.

Keep posting on the next few pages if you want to permanently get on page 27777. People will probably start deleting posts to move themselves from the next few pages onto this one.

wait, is this some new maths and science game? how does it work? i just shitpost as usual and hope to get lucky?
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December 22, 2020, 12:40:18 AM

In the end the lack of insurance was the straw that broke our back. It was like dominos where that one piece of the puzzle brought it all crashing down.

Owning a cruise ship, every day is money so the clock is ticking from day one of buying the ship to becoming revenue neutral. During that time you are shelling out money to keep the thing going. The sooner revenue neutrality comes, the better. This wasn't a boat (bring out another thousand), it was a boam.

We were trying to play nice. We were in talks with Panama's presidential office, the marine authority, ministry of tourism, etc. They all told us they wanted our ship in Panama. But they all did what they could to make sure they could get what they could out of the project with no regard for how that affected the success.

The marine authority classified the ship as a seagoing vessel though we were pleading with them to not classify it as such as it would have bad consequences.

The demand for cabins was nil. Even with the lowest prices we could possibly offer and break even, nobody wanted to live on it.

Our ship management company was not very useful when trying to get us insurance, more of a spectator of "let's see how this 'crazy' project is treated by the strict, good ol' boy club of insurances". The insurance companies were almost toying with us, asking for information on how we would deal with X or Y...we give them some reasonable response that we think they will be ok with only to the response of "denied" (no explanation). Nobody ever let us speak directly to the insurance companies to discuss what they would accept for various scenarios ("highly unprecedented", when we asked).

We could have come up with another solution, we could have done some blockchain type of P&I insurance...over time. We focused on complying with maritime and Panama law as opposed to gaining an expertise in maritime insurance (assuming that surely a private insurance company would want money). So being turned down by all of the companies caught us off guard.

With time of the essence, no support from the seasteading nor Bitcoin community that we were trying to serve, the Panama government reneging on their promise to work with us and the final stroke coming from lack of insurance we had to pull the plug before paying to cross the canal. We had a day to make the decision so we went with it.

We bought the ship at below scrap prices, we burned through a few million and are selling it for higher scrap prices so dollar wise we even out. But lost potential, Bitcoin wise, we can put it down as "losing" half of our investment.

I was not the big investor in the project (as usual). With the bitcoin price being up and the main investor being a member of the Vladmir club...expect something brilliantly insane to come next (I am the guy in the spotlight because our main investor speaks his mind too readily...he makes me look like a US congressman in comparison).

I will likely sit out this next adventure and go into hibernation like I did after Thailand until I am pulled back out into the world by the next project.

I chose seasteading as my passion project because I have been following it for 10 years and wanted to see something actually done instead of people just talking about it all the time and I see it as one of the shortest avenues toward a modicum of freedom. I have time to decide my next steps. Now I focus on myself (and my wife) and take a good break from things for a while.

Thanks Elwar for the post and appreciate how challenging this undertaking would be.

If all you need is a certificate of currency for P&I, then one way through the puzzle is to get a $20 million policy with a $20 million deductible.... it means the policy is worthless, but you get your piece of paper.  The certificate of currency will not show the deductible value and if the regulator asks to see the policy wording you can tell them to fuck off because the policy is commercial in confidence and they only need the certificate of currency.  

Enjoy taking the time off and look forward to reading about your next adventures.  
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December 22, 2020, 01:20:26 AM
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Ripple getting sued by the SEC, lol

https://www.coindesk.com/sec-to-sue-ripple-over-xrp-sales-ceo-says
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Nice page to post on.

Keep posting on the next few pages if you want to permanently get on page 27777. People will probably start deleting posts to move themselves from the next few pages onto this one.

wait, is this some new maths and science game? how does it work? i just shitpost as usual and hope to get lucky?

Just shitpost at every shitpost o'clock and you'll be fine.



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