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[dieselmeister]

Getting close to thinking of taking a little profit in the form of 100 acres of prime forested property with 1500 feet of lake frontage, ten minutes from a major hospital and about an hour and a half from downtown Toronto. Under 23 bitcoins at current prices.



Thank you Bitcoin.

Do it!
Peace and serenity now is more important than pie in the sky, especially when we are not there (in the future).

Now is actually months away. This is just the land. I'd still have to build a house, although in the spring I could still drop a trailer on the land for weekend use.

The big problem is converting my coins into dollars and paying capital gains taxes. I don't have (nor want) a bank account. Luckily I have one paper wallet (my largest) which can be traced to my identity, containing about 30 coins. Hopefully that will cover it.

You can build a house somewhere you want if you own the land? Wow ... here you can build only houses in special areas, which are flaged as housing areas from the goverment. You can buy property, but you aren't allowed to build something on it... you are lucky.

Where do you live that has such Draconian property laws?

In Germany... Here you can buy special properties, where you can build houses. But they cost 10 to 50 times more then a normal property. For example here you have to pay for a square meter housing property 500 €. There you can build a house, with some rules from the city or village or whatever you live. But I have to say, there is power and water and suage already there.
But you are not allowed to build house outside cities. With one exception, if you are a farmer, maybe than the authorities allow you to build there. But you need always an allowance to build some thing. We call this here a "Baugenehmigung".

You need this for basically all you want to build. Even a pool (at some size?).

Crazy... You are very lucky...

In the US we can build a house on just about any property but they are starting to get weird about building very close to rivers and such..
You might not be able to build a house closer than 100 feet from a river..

You can’t build houses in the countryside?
That’s crazy.. Insanity..

I know... I think, it's because we have little area for a quarter of the population of the USA. (round about 1/30 of the the area of the USA)

[strawbs]

In the US we can build a house on just about any property but they are starting to get weird about building very close to rivers and such..
You might not be able to build a house closer than 100 feet from a river..

You can’t build houses in the countryside?
That’s crazy.. Insanity..

I know... I think, it's because we have little area for a quarter of the population of the USA. (round about 1/30 of the the area of the USA)

We have pretty tight planning regulations in UK too. To be honest, I don't really mind - it helps to prevent anyone from building a poorly designed, ugly piece-of-shit house in the middle of beautiful countryside with no consideration for their neighbours or impacts on landscape quality. Or to protect the setting of historic buildings. Buildings associated with agricultural use get more leeway.

Ireland used to have pretty relaxed planning regulations so now you see loads of cheap, poor quality, off-the-shelf, 1990s designed houses everywhere you go, which just looks ridiculous in their countryside.

[xhomerx10]

A lovely good morning Bitcoinland.

Another day another ATH... currently $24080USD/$30795CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Go Bitcoin go.
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Getting close to thinking of taking a little profit in the form of 100 acres of prime forested property with 1500 feet of lake frontage, ten minutes from a major hospital and about an hour and a half from downtown Toronto. Under 23 bitcoins at current prices.



Thank you Bitcoin.

 Hey JimboToronto, I spent a lot of time up there, years back.  Family friends had property on that very lake.  It's a great lake, close to a great little city with everything you might need but I would be very careful with that particular piece of property.  I remember years ago a man tried to build a cottage in a very similar location on that same lake but was stopped and forced to remove what he had constructed and return the area to its previous state.  It was the talk of the lake that someone would have the audacity to do such a thing in violation of the law.   I can't say I'm 100% certain it was that exact property but almost the entire west side of that lake is in an Environmental Protection One zone.  There's virtually no way you're going to be allowed to build on it.

[d_eddie]

There was a nuclear war.  She is using a Geiger counter to work out if the milk used for the ice cream was contaminated by fallout.  

She likes to take pics of things before wrapping her lips around them
but she's very ashamed of her little kink
so she wears a mask.

[serveria.com]

I'll try posting one last stingy xmas card to try getting back above $24000 again.

We need to try harder, how about a minimalistic cheap gay cat xmas card?   

[ivomm]

https://twitter.com/Sonnenshein/status/1340314783233552386

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Observing $23,928 & not remotely interested in selling anything for a good while yet. This bull run has only just started really, we have soooooo much scope for upwards price discovery. You should always do what suits you but I don’t think it’s advisable to sell anything yet. Maybe at double this price I’ll start selling but we will see $100,000 per coin within 12 months & I’m starting to think maybe much higher.

Either way, it’s a great time for us, we are all so fortunate to have got into bitcoin so early. I dunno about anybody else but the next 12 months is going to be life changing.

Goodnight fellow bulls!

[AlcoHoDL]

Observing $23,928 & not remotely interested in selling anything for a good while yet. This bull run has only just started really, we have soooooo much scope for upwards price discovery. You should always do what suits you but I don’t think it’s advisable to sell anything yet. Maybe at double this price I’ll start selling but we will see $100,000 per coin within 12 months & I’m starting to think maybe much higher.

Either way, it’s a great time for us, we are all so fortunate to have got into bitcoin so early. I dunno about anybody else but the next 12 months is going to be life changing.

Goodnight fellow bulls!

$100k / BTC is near-certain in 2021. <--- My "MOON" level.
$400k / BTC has been predicted and is not impossible in 2022. <--- My "FUCK-YOU RICH" level.

HoDLsleep for me too.

Goodnight LFC and all.

[lightfoot]

get a salt (or equivalent) loan using your BTC as collateral.  this keeps the tax bill to near zero.  you are not cashing the coin, just getting a loan.  

Hm. Are there banks that do this? Could be a good way to tap the bitcoin equity a bit without selling the corn.

[eddie13]

I don’t have a lot of coins so I really need $100k+ for it to matter in a life changing way..

I’m pretty comfy being poor though.. Have been poor all my life..
I am very self sufficient so I can do, enjoy, and have a lot while spending very little..
I don’t need as much $$ because I don’t need to hire everyone else to do things for me.. I can do most everything on my own..

My dream is to have a long vacation in a sailboat around the world..
I don’t need a massive expensive boat and can do all the maintenance work myself.. So like $50k for a boat buy/maintenance budget and basically money for food/expenses to last atleast a few years..
If god is kind he will smite me down in a hurricane before I run out of food money so I never have to go back to the rat race..

[JimboToronto]

A lovely good morning Bitcoinland.

Another day another ATH... currently $24080USD/$30795CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Go Bitcoin go.
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Getting close to thinking of taking a little profit in the form of 100 acres of prime forested property with 1500 feet of lake frontage, ten minutes from a major hospital and about an hour and a half from downtown Toronto. Under 23 bitcoins at current prices.



Thank you Bitcoin.

 Hey JimboToronto, I spent a lot of time up there, years back.  Family friends had property on that very lake.  It's a great lake, close to a great little city with everything you might need but I would be very careful with that particular piece of property.  I remember years ago a man tried to build a cottage in a very similar location on that same lake but was stopped and forced to remove what he had constructed and return the area to its previous state.  It was the talk of the lake that someone would have the audacity to do such a thing in violation of the law.   I can't say I'm 100% certain it was that exact property but almost the entire west side of that lake is in an Environmental Protection One zone.  There's virtually no way you're going to be allowed to build on it.

Wow. Thanks for the heads up Homer.

I was a little hesitant to post that picture but I'm glad I did. I was wondering why it was so cheap considering its hard to get a house in Toronto for less than a million or a decent cottage that close to the city for less than a couple million.

It might not necessarily be a problem. I spent 25 years using a trailer on 50 acres of rented maple sugar bush in Oro as my country getaway.

I eventually had 3 trailers and a wolmanized, galvanized outhouse/generator shed with the complete blessings of the municipality. All the trailers were on a high bank overlooking a fairly substantial creek with waterfall. All they cared about was that everything was "portable" with no foundations and that no one was living there full time. When the land owner gave them my address in the city, that was that.

My only real problem was security. I considered converting an intermodal shipping container into a "mobile" home by torching in Lexan MR-10 windows and setting it on railway ties. Unfortunately the owner died and the estate sold the property.

As you can see by this picture, the present owner of this lakefront spread seems to have a trailer there already:



Being in an Environmental Protection One zone would actually be good for me as I prefer a natural undisturbed environment.

I'd like to be able to bring in hydro though. Maybe they'd let me use a trencher to bury a cable. Maintaining and fueling a generator is a hassle. I'd love to relegate my Honda to backup duty.

I obviously have lots of research to do.

Thanks again.

[cAPSLOCK]

There was a nuclear war.  She is using a Geiger counter to work out if the milk used for the ice cream was contaminated by fallout.  

That almost sounds like just some equal parallel to today.  6 one... half dozen...

[Toxic2040]

the evening wall report



#dyor

4h


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#stronghands

[cAPSLOCK]

Dammit Bob!  Post something really gay please...  quick!

[BobLawblaw]

Dammit Bob!  Post something really gay please...  quick!

Shit. Gimme a minute... Damnit.

EDIT: Here, wierdo.

[cAPSLOCK]

Dammit Bob!  Post something really gay please...  quick!

Shit. Gimme a minute... Damnit.

EDIT: Here, wierdo.

OK... This is kinda bearish, I think.. It worked... but it only worked a little:

[El duderino_]

I made this today:


https://twitter.com/fillippone1/status/1340401731973369859?s=20


Looping nonstop in my house.

This is amazing. Love it. 

Me only thinking about HM’s Latest ATH prediction, glad we broke it GoGoGo

[JimboToronto]

I think I just saw $23456 go flashing by.

Straight!

[sirazimuth]

Dammit Bob!  Post something really gay please...  quick!

Shit. Gimme a minute... Damnit.

EDIT: Here, wierdo.

FTFY   (hey Bob, love ya man,  (no homo) but no dirty pics on the wob....)

[Hueristic]

Wow. Thanks for the heads up Homer.

I was a little hesitant to post that picture but I'm glad I did. I was wondering why it was so cheap considering its hard to get a house in Toronto for less than a million or a decent cottage that close to the city for less than a couple million.

It might not necessarily be a problem. I spent 25 years using a trailer on 50 acres of rented maple sugar bush in Oro as my country getaway.

I eventually had 3 trailers and a wolmanized, galvanized outhouse/generator shed with the complete blessings of the municipality. All the trailers were on a high bank overlooking a fairly substantial creek with waterfall. All they cared about was that everything was "portable" with no foundations and that no one was living there full time. When the land owner gave them my address in the city, that was that.

My only real problem was security. I considered converting an intermodal shipping container into a "mobile" home by torching in Lexan MR-10 windows and setting it on railway ties. Unfortunately the owner died and the estate sold the property.

As you can see by this picture, the present owner of this lakefront spread seems to have a trailer there already:



Being in an Environmental Protection One zone would actually be good for me as I prefer a natural undisturbed environment.

I'd like to be able to bring in hydro though. Maybe they'd let me use a trencher to bury a cable. Maintaining and fueling a generator is a hassle. I'd love to relegate my Honda to backup duty.

I obviously have lots of research to do.

Thanks again.

Shipping container?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNSPbNScG6U