Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[JayJuanGee]

Anyone else feel that this $22.5k - $23.5k somewhat sideways movement is similar to the time spent bouncing around 19k a few weeks back?  Up a bit, down a bit but always returning to some form of equilibrium at a similar level.

Possibly somewhat similar.

Largely, we have not been having any meaningful corrections, but BTC prices cannot go straight up, it has to take some pauses to allow for buy support to catch up.... but we never can really know when the buy support is NOT going to be able to keep up... .. Nonetheless, even though this has largely been happening since $10k-ish in early September (some might argue that the UP started in March and there have not really been significant corrections since March.. .. but that is a bit less clear than either a September UPpity thesis), it could continue all the way to $50k-ish.. yet there is really no guarantees..

We have seen these kinds of ongoing UPpity without significant correction at various points in BTC history... and sometimes the price will continue to go up in spite of peeps incorrectly concluding that it must correct at any point.. blah blah blah.. yeah, it might and it might not.  

By the way, we largely are at the top of noman's zone.. and been consolidating in this top of no man's zone range for about 5 days - in spite of a correction for ants, yesterday.

 

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[Toxic2040]

'but BTC prices cannot go straight up...'

 

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good morning


some charts with new shortish fibs highlighted

#dyor

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4h

#stronkhands

[serveria.com]

There are 273K customers on the list. That's not a partial database. You bought from them before the leak and you should be there. With whatever data you provided to them. The "persona" I provided to them is in fact there.

[...]

272,853 customers to be exact. I have the file open in front of me now, and, no, I'm not in the list (fortunately)!

It's a kind of weird feeling to see in front of me so many emails, full names, addresses, phone numbers... Several of them in my own neighbourhood. The list is so large, that anyone anywhere could possibly find a Ledger owner close by...

This should make us all aware of the implications of submitting our personal details to different sites on the net. We should not take this lightly.

Did I miss something? Where can I see the list?  

I don't want to post a link to leaked data... Just Google it. Very easy to find. <--- That's the scary part!

Found it. It's actually scary for peeps from smaller countries/communities.  

[soullyG]

1h
Slug pokes out from his hidey-hole


4h
Bull cresting the mountain top

#stronkhands

Added descriptions to your charts 

[Toxic2040]

1h
Slug pokes out from his hidey-hole


4h
Bull cresting the mountain top

#stronkhands

Added descriptions to your charts 

+3 WOsMerits


thank Karhu...its really challenging some mornings

[Globb0]

Now it feels like

Make good sex :-)

Hehe that's Dutch-English for makeup sex (goedmaak sex)

Didn't even get the breakup sex. I feel robbed.

[Globb0]

There are 273K customers on the list. That's not a partial database. You bought from them before the leak and you should be there. With whatever data you provided to them. The "persona" I provided to them is in fact there.

[...]

272,853 customers to be exact. I have the file open in front of me now, and, no, I'm not in the list (fortunately)!

It's a kind of weird feeling to see in front of me so many emails, full names, addresses, phone numbers... Several of them in my own neighbourhood. The list is so large, that anyone anywhere could possibly find a Ledger owner close by...

This should make us all aware of the implications of submitting our personal details to different sites on the net. We should not take this lightly.

Did I miss something? Where can I see the list?  

I don't want to post a link to leaked data... Just Google it. Very easy to find. <--- That's the scary part!

Found it. It's actually scary for peeps from smaller countries/communities.  

Well yeah and those invasive countries where you might have just gone above the radar.

That sucks but the bang in the night wont be crims.

[jojo69]

[OutOfMemory]

Ledger update:

I took my backups and extracted the emails from about three years ago, when i ordered my first nano.
Clicking on the "Order details" link takes me to a page where order details are shown as "hidden" (for my security), because the order completed.
So far so good, that's maybe why personal data from my order is not included in the e-commerce db leak, but my email must be there, because of the lately increased spam.

Reviewing my recent order shows all data, but it's completed as well.
I have to insist to apply GDPR Art. 17 to all my personal data @ledger.
Another grumpy email session  

[Biodom]

Ledger update:

I took my backups and extracted the emails from about three years ago, when i ordered my first nano.
Clicking on the "Order details" link takes me to a page where order details are shown as "hidden" (for my security), because the order completed.
So far so good, that's maybe why personal data from my order is not included in the e-commerce db leak, but my email must be there, because of the lately increased spam.

Reviewing my recent order shows all data, but it's completed as well.
I have to insist to apply GDPR Art. 17 to all my personal data @ledger.
Another grumpy email session  

Don't bother at this moment.
Instead, query a database
there are two places:
https: //intelx.io/?did=8761746e-d333-4256-bbcd-9100c8722799
or simply https: //intelx.io , then search for your e-mail. It will show either just email OR the whole echilada (address, name, etc)
Alternative is https: //haveibeenpwned.com/ , but people say that intelx is better because you can just scan with email.

I am putting the gap (between : and //) in the address, so it would result in non-clickable link.
You can assemble if so desire.
If your info is there, GDPR will do nothing as the data is already out there, sorry

[OutOfMemory]

Ledger update:

I took my backups and extracted the emails from about three years ago, when i ordered my first nano.
Clicking on the "Order details" link takes me to a page where order details are shown as "hidden" (for my security), because the order completed.
So far so good, that's maybe why personal data from my order is not included in the e-commerce db leak, but my email must be there, because of the lately increased spam.

Reviewing my recent order shows all data, but it's completed as well.
I have to insist to apply GDPR Art. 17 to all my personal data @ledger.
Another grumpy email session  

Don't bother at this moment.
Instead, query a database
there are two places:
https: //intelx.io/?did=8761746e-d333-4256-bbcd-9100c8722799
or simply https: //intelx.io , then search for your e-mail. It will show either just email OR the whole echilada (address, name, etc)
Alternative is https: //haveibeenpwned.com/ , but people say that intelx is better because you can just scan with email.

I am putting the gap (between : and //) in the address, so it would result in non-clickable link.
You can assemble if so desire.
If your info is there, GDPR will do nothing as the data is already out there, sorry

Strangely, hibp.com shows two breaches for my email, and one of them is "Covve contacts app", though i never used it.
Ledger is also listed.

Regarding intelx, i have been using up my limit as non-registered user for downloads of the eight txt files with personal data.
Will have to wait until tomorrow to download the email database files, for a local scan.
I know, i could reset the gateway, clear the cookies and cache and have another free go today, but it's not that important to me, now that i know that my personal data wasn't exposed.


ledger have been hacked
seems like my data is safe
i am pissed off, though

#frenchtardhaiku

EDIT:

From ledgers email about the leak (yesterday):

If you are part of the detailed personal information subset, you will receive a specific email notifying you within the next 24 hours (check your spam box).

And i didn't receive any more emails from them today.
Close, pretty close. But my Email leaked, not that bad too, because it can't be linked to my real name or personal data.
The nanos are worthless now too, because if they will go broke because of this, or other shit they will do or did, there will likely be no servers running, at some point, for their client software to connect to.
However, lesson learned. Thanks, life.

[AlcoHoDL]

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However, lesson learned. Thanks, life.

I think the lesson leaned is "if you don't want it exposed, don't submit it anywhere", which is impossible to apply nowadays, but paper wallets or OTC h/w wallet purchases can help in the case of Bitcoin, to prevent associating out personal data with our potential crypto holdings, which is the real issue in the Ledger leak.

[Elwar]

Thanks Elwar for the post and appreciate how challenging this undertaking would be.

If all you need is a certificate of currency for P&I, then one way through the puzzle is to get a $20 million policy with a $20 million deductible.... it means the policy is worthless, but you get your piece of paper.  The certificate of currency will not show the deductible value and if the regulator asks to see the policy wording you can tell them to fuck off because the policy is commercial in confidence and they only need the certificate of currency.  

Enjoy taking the time off and look forward to reading about your next adventures.  

This is exactly what I started telling our people to tell the insurance companies (give us a deductible up to the amount of coverage). At one point we were ready to self insure but our ship management company insisted P&I was the only way.

I did not have the time to become an insurance expert enough to argue with the company we hired that is one of the top ship management companies in the world that is supposed to know the maritime insurance industry.

I will have time now to become an expert in the same way I became an expert in maritime law and was arguing with our maritime lawyers, explaining the law to them.

[OutOfMemory]

...explaining the law to them.

Be your own lawyer 

[bitcoinPsycho]

Thanks Elwar for the post and appreciate how challenging this undertaking would be.

If all you need is a certificate of currency for P&I, then one way through the puzzle is to get a $20 million policy with a $20 million deductible.... it means the policy is worthless, but you get your piece of paper.  The certificate of currency will not show the deductible value and if the regulator asks to see the policy wording you can tell them to fuck off because the policy is commercial in confidence and they only need the certificate of currency.  

Enjoy taking the time off and look forward to reading about your next adventures.  

This is exactly what I started telling our people to tell the insurance companies (give us a deductible up to the amount of coverage). At one point we were ready to self insure but our ship management company insisted P&I was the only way.

I did not have the time to become an insurance expert enough to argue with the company we hired that is one of the top ship management companies in the world that is supposed to know the maritime insurance industry.

I will have time now to become an expert in the same way I became an expert in maritime law and was arguing with our maritime lawyers, explaining the law to them.

Maybe you should consider buying a small Island instead  
Kudos for trying to make things happen

[Elwar]

...explaining the law to them.

Be your own lawyer  

I would have...the speaking Spanish part was an obstacle.

And in Panama it is pretty much...you're hiring the decision maker's cousin.

[Biodom]

If you missed it yesterday...
Jupiter, Saturn, ISS, the Moon...oh, my

https://petapixel.com/2020/12/22/photographer-captures-iss-passing-between-jupiter-and-saturn/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/world/jupiter-saturn-great-conjunction-images-scn-trnd/index.html

[vroom]

still practicing and waiting for the pumpening.

[serveria.com]

Thanks Elwar for the post and appreciate how challenging this undertaking would be.

If all you need is a certificate of currency for P&I, then one way through the puzzle is to get a $20 million policy with a $20 million deductible.... it means the policy is worthless, but you get your piece of paper.  The certificate of currency will not show the deductible value and if the regulator asks to see the policy wording you can tell them to fuck off because the policy is commercial in confidence and they only need the certificate of currency.  

Enjoy taking the time off and look forward to reading about your next adventures.  

This is exactly what I started telling our people to tell the insurance companies (give us a deductible up to the amount of coverage). At one point we were ready to self insure but our ship management company insisted P&I was the only way.

I did not have the time to become an insurance expert enough to argue with the company we hired that is one of the top ship management companies in the world that is supposed to know the maritime insurance industry.

I will have time now to become an expert in the same way I became an expert in maritime law and was arguing with our maritime lawyers, explaining the law to them.

Do you also need a ship management company, insurance and stuff if the ship doesn't leave the harbor? Keeping it as a stationary ship was not an option?

[drnash85]

Everything you ever thought of in life that didn't exist is now as real as the thought itself.