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December 30, 2020, 02:15:28 PM

I think the r0ach might be gone for good. It doesn't make me happy though.

Maybe he was just trolling us with his right-wing bullshit, wasn't really a no-coiner, and was secretly accumulating a massive Bitcoin stash.

Maybe he's retired to a life of Lambos, hookers, and blow.  Grin

I always thought he was just trolling. I even suspected he's a cultivated jew. He used to know and understand way too much to be the typical right-wing extremist he appeared to be. However, deep in my heart I suspect lambos, hookers and blow are not where he's at right now.
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December 30, 2020, 02:26:46 PM

Rat poison

He was right, Bitcoin IS rat poison, for bankers and the FED. He speaks poorly of it because the concept breaks a monopoly he is fond of.


I have always seen it this way.  They understood what it was foundationally very early on, and also did not believe it would succeed.  Still don't I imagine.
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December 30, 2020, 02:27:46 PM

Is it time yet to put page count parity behind us, just as gold ounce parity was put to rest years ago?

Old article from gold ounce parity days (3/3/2017):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39154348/i-bought-bitcoins-in-2011---now-theyre-worth-19000

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December 30, 2020, 02:31:10 PM



Cocaine!  Hookers!  And ... Whole Foods?
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December 30, 2020, 02:31:58 PM
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I have heard you admit, on several occasions, that you did not buy enough..

Any man who claims he bought enough is a liar

Those who knows BTC from 2016-2017 and claiming not bought enough with the cash they hold or could have available.... they are not BTC worthy....

I remember many occasions, for example an uncle of me... BTC pumps to 1400-1600-ish and he said if it drops back to 900-ish then I’m gonna buy (thinking he was to late @1400-1600)

Of-course the price did drop to those 900’s maybe bit lower cannot remember exactly ....

But naturally he didn’t bought...  those aren’t BTC worthy cause they fail to understand the fundamentals and the UP potential, they also only see $-€ marks and nothing else...

This one is lucky he did bought around 3500-ish ....

In 2013 I told a co-worker to just buy a little BTC at $800 and hodl it forever....he never did.

Also told a former tax accountant that same year that I had invested in BTC, he told me that "Bitcoin is a scam, dump it all immediately and get into traditional investments." I didn't of course, and essentially fired him. If I had followed his advice, I wouldn't be retired and wealthy today. I have since moved away from where he lives, but still have an occasional thought to call him up and give him an ear full. I'm sure that to this day he has never bought any BTC, and he is probably still dispensing bad advice to his clients.
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December 30, 2020, 02:43:26 PM
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Is it time yet to put page count parity behind us, just as gold ounce parity was put to rest years ago?

Old article from gold ounce parity days (3/3/2017):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39154348/i-bought-bitcoins-in-2011---now-theyre-worth-19000



This guy gets it:

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"It's a trade of freedom to have your own money, as opposed to taking your money and putting it in a bank that might crash."
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December 30, 2020, 03:00:46 PM
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OT: So I guess the MSM's strategy of telling Average Joe to stay away from Bitcoin is not working, so now they're going with "[those that] have a portfolio that’s overweight in cryptocurrency may consider donating it to charity."  Roll Eyes

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/30/bitcoin-nears-27000-why-it-might-make-sense-to-give-some-to-charity.html

You hear that Average Joe? If you have too much Bitcoin, give it away or diversify now!  Roll Eyes
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December 30, 2020, 03:02:24 PM

Hm. Has someone checked in on Proudhon? Just want to make sure they're ok.

Btc people what a community still concerning for those who actually doesn’t deserve

Like you know... mindrust...  Grin Grin Grin
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December 30, 2020, 03:03:38 PM

BTW, we had a new ATH today so guys alltogether: POOR MINDRUST!   Grin
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December 30, 2020, 03:08:17 PM

I think the r0ach might be gone for good. It doesn't make me happy though.

Maybe he was just trolling us with his right-wing bullshit, wasn't really a no-coiner, and was secretly accumulating a massive Bitcoin stash.

Maybe he's retired to a life of Lambos, hookers, and blow.  Grin

BTW, you're not the first WOer mentioning it. I've read here before that there's actually evidence roach was an early adopter but sold all (or part of) his stash. He even had a car with BTC number plate.  Grin
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December 30, 2020, 03:39:49 PM
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I actually feel bad for mindrust. I liked (still like?) the guy. It's so unfortunate that he chickened out. Never expected it. I guess he wasn't a hardened HoDLer like the typical WOer, and he never really believed in Bitcoin. It's impossible to do what he did, if you really believe in Bitcoin's potential and understand how it works. I guess he never did.

Sad. If I was him, I'd go crazy... It's tough for the mind (rusty or not) to take this...

I sincerely hope he's fine.
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December 30, 2020, 03:44:33 PM

BTW, we had a new ATH today so guys alltogether: POOR MINDRUST!   Grin



Sorry Mindrust. I couldn't help it. Peer pressure.
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Another NASDAQ-Listed Company to Set Up a Bitcoin Fund
Another Believer In The Bitcoin Institutional Future
GreenPro Capital Corp (NASDAQ listed as GRNQ) is among the latest corporations to express positivity about the future of Bitcoin. In a recent announcement, the financial advisory service provider noted that it believes that banking institutions, hedge funds, insurance companies, etc., will soon start adopting BTC.
https://cryptopotato.com/another-nasdaq-listed-company-to-set-up-a-bitcoin-fund/
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December 30, 2020, 03:49:41 PM

OT: So I guess the MSM's strategy of telling Average Joe to stay away from Bitcoin is not working, so now they're going with "[those that] have a portfolio that’s overweight in cryptocurrency may consider donating it to charity."  Roll Eyes

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/30/bitcoin-nears-27000-why-it-might-make-sense-to-give-some-to-charity.html

You hear that Average Joe? If you have too much Bitcoin, give it away or diversify now!  Roll Eyes

This is actually a good strategy.

A charitable trust.

If you are able to cash out your gains into a charitable trust you essentially donate the full amount to a charity (executed upon your death).

The trust you put your money into can pay you dividends, pay you from the principle over time, etc.

You know the term "trust fund babies"...you can set up the trust to pay out a certain amount to your children over time, etc.

You get the initial first year benefit of the amount you donated to the charity as a discount on your taxes and you can spread your gains over several years instead of a single lump sum.

I considered this as an option because living overseas I can make up to $100k per year tax free. But I am subject to all taxes on capital gains.

The thing holding me back from doing a charitable trust was that you have to hand your money over to a company unrelated to you to manage the trust. After weighing my options the last time it reached $20k I just could not see putting a lot of money into some fiat based investment that would give me 5-6% yearly gains in a currency losing value at 8-10% per year, run by some idiot fund manager. So I just kept it all in bitcoin and decided to live off of money cashed out at the lowest tax bracket (which is still a lot in 2nd world countries).
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December 30, 2020, 03:57:47 PM

After weighing my options the last time it reached $20k I just could not see putting a lot of money into some fiat based investment that would give me 5-6% yearly gains in a currency losing value at 8-10% per year, run by some idiot fund manager. So I just kept it all in bitcoin and decided to live off of money cashed out at the lowest tax bracket (which is still a lot in 2nd world countries).

I came to the exact same conclusion as you.

I don't see any other option right now, with inflation running at 8-10%/year and bitcoin on the cusp of major breakout to highs unimaginable.

Perhaps in the far future I will diversify, but doing so now (I'm sure of it) would be a huge mistake.

Edit: I've got to do some major renovations to the house next year, and it's already making me sick to know that I've got to part with some BTC to do it.
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I actually feel bad for mindrust. I liked (still like?) the guy. It's so unfortunate that he chickened out. Never expected it. I guess he wasn't a hardened HoDLer like the typical WOer, and he never really believed in Bitcoin. It's impossible to do what he did, if you really believe in Bitcoin's potential and understand how it works. I guess he never did.

Sad. If I was him, I'd go crazy... It's tough for the mind (rusty or not) to take this...

I sincerely hope he's fine.

I don't understand why this running joke is so popular. It's human to make mistakes and we should not make fun of him.
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EDIT: Forgot to mention that i feel definitely more relaxed since corn is correcting  Grin

But it is not correcting.

That thingie-ma-jiggie that we witnessed (in the past 2-3 days) was a correction for ants, if you had not noticed.

Well, consider having a tiny, tiny stash, a correction for ants is likely to be perceived "bigger", or is it just me?  Wink

It could be just you.  I am not sure?  I will go along with your presentation that you feel that your BTC stash is relatively tiny, and perhaps that could be some kind of explanation for why you get nervous about BTC price changes, because you have a kind of goal to increase your stash and/or to take advantage of BTC price moves...

At the same time, I do not really consider this to be a great justification for trying to NOT let BTC's price movements interfere with whatever plans that you have made for dealing with such BTC price changes.  It's almost as if you have not prepared, even though we have been talking about these kinds of potential BTC price movements for a few years (sure I have been talking about them for nearly 7 years, and you have been for a few years based on this account and your previous one)....

So, I get the sense that you have not pee pared ur lil selfie for these kinds of price moves, even though they are largely within reasonable parameters of the kinds of moves that we have been anticipating.


About that weekly parabola: This is the thing that gave me the scare (for ants, though).

Sure, the weekly parabola does look a bit crazy when looking at it, which surely causes some anticipations that corrections could come at anytime and play out extremely - but at the same time, fuck the charts, you should not be letting these stupid ass charts interfere with your plans and causing you to NOT stick with your previous plan, to the extent that you had some kind of a decent plan... and your plan should not be lacking in so much concreteness that it causes you to try to time price moves and/or overly play your hand because you perceive your stash to be small and you want to increase it.. blah blah blah..

At (mid term) fuck-you price levels of corn, i can more or less only sell a fraction (up to a third, the rest is locked in hodl mode) near the next "top" to buy back at the next "captitulation", if these events ever happen again anytime soon... i mean within years, to grow it. The timing of this is at the core of my "nervousness" (for ants, but still).

Maybe you should be a bit more specific about what you are saying here, or maybe it is that your plan is lacking in specifics and you are too much caught up in attempts to time these price moves.. and even trying to get towards the top with any of your shaving off some BTC profits so that you might be able to buy lower.

I still believe those to be a bit ridiculous of mindsets in terms of attempting to time the market and the BTC price, but hey peeps are going to do what they are going to do.  I personally believe it is way less emotionally involving to have some kind of plan in which you sell set amounts at set price points and do not worry about whether you are able to buy back lower or not.. and sure if you are able to buy back lower, then great, but do not be counting on it or fucking around with the timing aspect.. just set your plan and attempt to follow it within a certain degree of flexibility, if you so choose.

So for example, with your trading stash that you proclaim to be 1/3 of your total stash, I would suggest NOT to be trying to play the whole 1/3 in one go, but instead, pick some various BTC price points that you shave off some proportion of that stash, such as 1/10th of it each time that the BTC price reaches various price points set by you.. and of course, you can tweak those price points if your senses change (but it might not be a good idea to tweak if you have already thought through ahead of time regarding what those price points should be)  or some other variation of preset price points that is not going to cause you to have such high levels of emotionalism in regards to your trying to play and time too much of it in one go.

Sure, I understand that part of your excitement remains something like the BTC price playing out way more bullish that the most bullish of your expectations - but that is the way the king daddy is.. so you should have already been attempting got plan and prepare both financially and emotionally for these kinds of greater than expectations kinds of happenings within the bitcoin scene.

Hopefully this is helpful in some kind of way, and of course, in the end, you gotta find your own specific price points and practices that feel comfortable for you, and surely mine are likely a wee bit different from yours... including the fact that previous plays can frequently affect present or future plays... and of course, each of us come out differently when it really comes to diving into each of the personal factors that should be included in these kinds of considerations and planning which are cash flow, other investments, view of bitcoin as compared to other investments, timeline, risk tolerance and time, skills and abilities to learn or to tweak plans from time to time including the extent to reallocate or trade, if at all.



breakfast time! Have a nice pumpy day WOs!

You have a nice day, too. #nohomo
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December 30, 2020, 04:08:50 PM

Vegas seems quite nice!! Hilton is nice and the water even smells nice here!!
People don’t seem to be very friendly/social here though..

Everything is gambling something or another, but I get plenty of gambling kicks just HODLing BTC..

Wonder if their is a casino with Bitcoin options.. Hmmm..
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I almost missed it.

Good afternoon WO!
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December 30, 2020, 04:16:16 PM

Wonder if their is a casino with Bitcoin options.. Hmmm..
A quick search got me this

Golden Gate Hotel & Casino
The D Casino

It's from 6 years ago though.
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