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[JayJuanGee]

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  and if i happen to eat some hidden meat, say a crumb of ham on a pizza, i won't become a drama queen about that  

I am glad about that.

We surely have enough drama queens around these here parts...

 

Hypnosis is so powerful in that regard, i clearly underestimated it as well before i tried.
You should probably try it too,

I doubt that I am a good subject - but if I ever come across some random hypnotist in RL that I actually trust, then I might give it a shot.  Perhaps?

without intentional aspects, just for the experience of that mind-centering feeling of "floating" (or "flowing"? or both... hard to describe).

I have heard about that.   

It leaves you somewhat "anchored" or "grounded" (for lack of better terms) for some weeks after, which is a fucking awesome experience by itself.

Does not sound like a bad thing, when you put it like that. 

So no worries, everyone in the family loves the meat and i don't care. No offensive feelings in any way there.
As i said, for one time in a life, kill and prepare the animals you eat yourself, if you have the ability to do so (i have a farming neighborhood).
It will change your way of looking at meat, although it will not make you a veggie, probably, and even if, you wouldn't feel too bad about it.

I already said my part in this area.

Please, eat meat, drink blood etc. but maybe, sometimes, imagine that it would come from (formerly) living beings, which look into your eyes before you kill and dissect them, take care of their remainings and wash off their blood of your skin.

My earlier position does not suggest that I am unaware of killing an animal or the sadness that can come from those kinds of experiences.

love out to you as well
#nohomo

Great.  We do not need to get a room, then.. because that would have been aaaaaawwwwwkkkward.

[JayJuanGee]

https://twitter.com/Davincij15/status/1364613503210975241?s=20

LoL nice one...

But still my honest thinking is that I have no ambitions for owning a Lambo actually even if it would happen or whatever... its not the car I dream of and surely not the one I would like to drive daily in ....

Just the thought of being ripped off in Taxes, yearly things, absurd maintenance, all kind of dumb sh*t....

For the DUTCH among us

The cost are so high "het is dweilen met de kraan open"

Google translates this to "it is mopping with the tap open".

I see your point, and I fully agree! LOL!  

Haha indeed, in dutch its a common sentence  

It's probably NOT the car for me either, even if I felt that I had some place that I would want to keep such a car and maybe use it a few times a year.

So yeah let's say that the car costs about half a million (of course, you could get a cheaper version, but why?)... and then probably we should calculate another half a million for various costs over a 10 year ownership of the car... Something like that.

So, if any of us feel that we have an extra million in wealth that we want to use to consume such a product, then that might not be a problem.. but then a question might be how much wealth should a reasonable person have in order spend around a $million on a nearly complete consumption good - and a show off status piece?

Probably $3million minimum.. and maybe above $5million would be preferable... but hey who am I to say.. I am not really very interested in such a car at this time, but never say never.

By the way, currently the 208-week moving average is getting close to $9,400, so a person would need to have:

BTC        ==    dollar value

106.383  = $1million

319.15  = $3million

531.915  = $5million

1,063.83  = $10million

By the way, if I am using the 208-week moving average of my measure of the bitcoin bottom ($9,400) for the intention of long-term considerations regarding my own bitcoin wealth management, I can also consider that any bitcoin that I were to cash in today, at this moment with the BTC price bouncing around $47,000 to $47,500, I get an immediate 5x return.. could feel good to do that, even though I am NOT cashing anything out beyond my normal practices (and system).  

But if anyone were to feel that they need cash in the coming year or less to consider if there might be an  amount of BTC to cash in that makes you feel good in terms of getting a certain locked-in value above the 208-week moving average, then 5x immediate returns cannot really feel bad.. and of course the 2080-week moving average is continuing to move up quite slowly, relatively speaking... but still moving up around $200 per week-ish in these here times.  Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting anyone sell any of their bitcoins, but each person also has personal considerations in term of where they are at and if they believe that they can HODL through these kinds of periods, shave some off or are then in an accumulation stage of ongoingly buying more BTC because they have not yet met their personal BTC accumulation goals.

Edit: no offense intended to those who enjoy sucking cock. you do you.

Well, like, have you even tried sucking cock?

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

Sounds gross.

 

I don't have any desire to try it - but again, never say never, if there might not be some other options out there.

[shahzadafzal]

So nearly 75% users are American, that is about 33M.

Reason is because coinbase still not operating in many countries. It’s buy/sell option is available only in 40 countries.

All other countries which does not clearly define bitcoins assets or “crypto currencies” to be specific are still not allowed to buy/sell bitcoins on coinbase. That includes countries with huge crypto demand like China, India. Turkey and even in Singapore you can buy but you can’t sell.

[JayJuanGee]

P.S. Still, it would be nice after a year to stock up on bitcoin at a price below 30,000

ProTip:  Even though it might be nice to "stock up" on sub-$30k coins, we (royal we, of course) do not vote (or root) for BTC prices to go lower in these here parts, but if BTC prices were to happen to go lower, we (royal we, again) do tend to take advantage of such lower going BTC prices by buying MOAR lillie fiends.

Personally, I believe that you are convoluting the problem when you frame the matter like that.

Many of us who may have considered the matter of nutrition in any kind of meaningful way would have come across sources of information that shows that a lot of the problems with food supply come from various kinds of processing of foods and stuffing of ingredients to make cheaper and screwing around with oils to make various kinds of artificial oils.  The man made meat is likely to suffer from some of the similar kinds of processing issues, even though they are going to try to frame it as if it almost like the same thing and grown from a petri-dish so therefore even better than real meat... blah blah blah.

Sure, but this is not a problem with artificiality, it is a problem with production values. The artificial doesn't necessarily have to be inferior to the natural, and where the right values are demanded, can even be superior. Algae oil grown in a lab, for example, can be a cleaner source of Omega-3 than eating fatty fish every day, because of persistent organic pollutants that bioaccumulate in the food chain.

Will the shitburger you suggest come about? Alas, unless there is a change to the general scheme of incentivisation for producers it is almost inevitable. Perhaps one might argue that the natural is heuristically better than the artificial because it places a constraint on the producer not otherwise existing. There's also a conservative argument against the novel because of unintended consequences.

I don't really feel like debating the matter further, even though I still am likely to lambast vegetarians, vegans and artificial meat advocates from time to time and at will.

In other words, there are a lot of reasons be skeptical of those pushing these kinds of ideas, even though perhaps there might be some ways to employ such learnings in beneficial ways, and surely there are some kinds of processed foods that are neither bad for you nor trying to lure you into eating substandard ingredients... just consider how far some of the soy and soy oil propaganda has gotten and even transfats are still used in products and people believe them to be healthy or more healthy when they really should be illegal... an example of such is margarine versus butter, and surely butter is superior in terms of nutrition but margarine is sold as if it were the same thing and its cheaper so people buy it.. what a scam. 

It can take a long fucking time to figure out when you are being scammed.. take crisco oil for example.. still on the shelves... people buy it and use it... because they were trying to substitute out saturated fat.. as if saturated fat were bad for you... and if you believe that actual saturated fat is bad for you, then you are totally delusional, and I (that's the royal I) don't really want to hear your delusional ideas about what science supports and does not support... but sure you are free to make such arguments, even if I do not want to hear them...   you fuck.   #nohomo.

[Richy_T]

Synthetic meat may sound like a decent idea but people typically think of the final stage where presumably chunks of cloned meat are cut off in a vat with no cruelty or pain to animals. The issue is that animals are pretty fantastic machines. You grow some typically-vegetable type crops of nominal nutritional value and you feed the animal and it takes care of growing. If you are doing this industrially for synthetic meat, now you are having to provide a carefully balanced nutrient broth which has to be specifically distilled from crops, since you have no stomach, guarded from contamination since you have no kidneys, liver nor immune system and diffused into the "meat" since you have no circulatory system. You also have to deal with texture created by muscle use (unless we're all going to be eating synthetic veal). These things *are* solvable, I have zero doubt but they're not free and make the economic aspect a lot more marginal. Unless you're making the life of animals paramount (though bear in mind cows would effectively cease to exist as a species except as zoo specimens and pets under such an arrangement) which is certainly a market, though niche, that bears serving, it seems to be more of a solution looking for a problem.

[Sayeds56]

https://twitter.com/Davincij15/status/1364613503210975241?s=20

LoL nice one...

But still my honest thinking is that I have no ambitions for owning a Lambo actually even if it would happen or whatever... its not the car I dream of and surely not the one I would like to drive daily in ....

Just the thought of being ripped off in Taxes, yearly things, absurd maintenance, all kind of dumb sh*t....

For the DUTCH among us

The cost are so high "het is dweilen met de kraan open"

Google translates this to "it is mopping with the tap open".

I see your point, and I fully agree! LOL!  

Haha indeed, in dutch its a common sentence  

It's probably NOT the car for me either, even if I felt that I had some place that I would want to keep such a car and maybe use it a few times a year.

So yeah let's say that the car costs about half a million (of course, you could get a cheaper version, but why?)... and then probably we should calculate another half a million for various costs over a 10 year ownership of the car... Something like that.

So, if any of us feel that we have an extra million in wealth that we want to use to consume such a product, then that might not be a problem.. but then a question might be how much wealth should a reasonable person have in order spend around a $million on a nearly complete consumption good - and a show off status piece?

Probably $3million minimum.. and maybe above $5million would be preferable... but hey who am I to say.. I am not really very interested in such a car at this time, but never say never.

By the way, currently the 208-week moving average is getting close to $9,400, so a person would need to have:

BTC        ==    dollar value

106.383  = $1million

319.15  = $3million

531.915  = $5million

1,063.83  = $10million

By the way, if I am using the 208-week moving average of my measure of the bitcoin bottom ($9,400) for the intention of long-term considerations regarding my own bitcoin wealth management, I can also consider that any bitcoin that I were to cash in today, at this moment with the BTC price bouncing around $47,000 to $47,500, I get an immediate 5x return.. could feel good to do that, even though I am NOT cashing anything out beyond my normal practices (and system).  

But if anyone were to feel that they need cash in the coming year or less to consider if there might be an  amount of BTC to cash in that makes you feel good in terms of getting a certain locked-in value above the 208-week moving average, then 5x immediate returns cannot really feel bad.. and of course the 2080-week moving average is continuing to move up quite slowly, relatively speaking... but still moving up around $200 per week-ish in these here times.  Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting anyone sell any of their bitcoins, but each person also has personal considerations in term of where they are at and if they believe that they can HODL through these kinds of periods, shave some off or are then in an accumulation stage of ongoingly buying more BTC because they have not yet met their personal BTC accumulation goals.

Edit: no offense intended to those who enjoy sucking cock. you do you.

Well, like, have you even tried sucking cock?

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

Sounds gross.

 

I don't have any desire to try it - but again, never say never, if there might not be some other options out there.

[Chrystora123]

If we drop below $45k, I'm buying again. Not in a hurry to buy dip right now. It looks like we may be in a position to break ground mid-March on our ranch. Getting very excited.

March is likely to be an interesting month, if the trend remains saturated then buying the dip at the right time is the wisest opportunity..

[dieselmeister]

Good morning WOvians. So the decline was excpected. With the massivce outflow out of the miners and the break of a triangle. The question is, is it enough or go we futher down? After the futures and options of the expires today, the bitcoin went back to normal and the sell pressure ends. The bitcoin had to be under 50k when the stuff expired, so that the masive shorters make enough profit. The game is not new.

We have havy bullish news yesterday, so they will kick in when the sell pressure ends. For us cheap coins

[DaRude]

Ayre shorts, faketoshi drops bomb on suing devs/jesus/planet/whateves rinse, repeat

[somac.]

Good morning WOvians. So the decline was excpected. With the massivce outflow out of the miners and the break of a triangle. The question is, is it enough or go we futher down? After the futures and options of the expires today, the bitcoin went back to normal and the sell pressure ends. The bitcoin had to be under 50k when the stuff expired, so that the masive shorters make enough profit. The game is not new.

We have havy bullish news yesterday, so they will kick in when the sell pressure ends. For us cheap coins

I have no idea when the sell pressure ends but if we get the same percentage correction as last time we are looking at a bottom of 39k - 41k.

I'm not confident we'll get there though, coins on exchange are dropping fast and I don't see any reason for that to let up for now. The 1.9 trillion is also coming and that cannot be priced in, because they haven't actually bought yet. Same as the halving being priced in, it's not possible.

I know there is talk of a global correction, but look what happend last time. That correction was a global boom. They can't stop printing, if they could they would have done it already.

[nutildah]

Forgot to mention, met these two dudes at a club last night. Pretty cool guys. Said they were brothers visiting from out of town.

ROFL!
They look like they shorted Doge their whore life! <3

Was waiting for somebody to notice this but..
Those are the blackish version of the Bogdanoff bros.

I was thinking that.

Makes sense that Bob would be in communication with them.

[ivomm]

Just purchased the dip at 46.3k

I sent up to buy

at 44.2k
at 42.2k

Cheap coins yeah baby.

Good morning (or whatever part of the day is for you) WO! I am in the mood of buying cheap coins too. I've just bought 0.45BTC at 45-46K. My laser eyes are focused on 300-400K this year.  

[somac.]

Upcoming big drop to 40-41k perhaps?

Then big bounce if it does.

[BobLawblaw]

First order filled @ $44.5k. Have orders in place all the way down to $40.5k. Getting tired and should probably hit the sack soon. Helluva busy week.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

First order filled @ $44.5k. Have orders in place all the way down to $40.5k. Getting tired and should probably hit the sack soon. Helluva busy week.

Also just bought, I’ve just created a tsunami with my whale move......


of buying £150 worth

[El duderino_]

Have an order filled as well, no more latter down, bought the remaining FIAT in total, this DUDE ain't greedy ...

[El duderino_]

Upcoming big drop to 40-41k perhaps?

Then big bounce if it does.

Maybe, maybe not ....

Big bounce from here would suit me well 

[serveria.com]

I hope we're not in for years of slow downward slide again. That was demoralizing.

This is going to be THE downward slide. If you don't want to be demoralized, then sell everything, or aggressively short at maximum leverage. There will not be another bull run.

That's exactly what you told us last time... 

[BitcoinBunny]

I hope we're not in for years of slow downward slide again. That was demoralizing.

This is going to be THE downward slide. If you don't want to be demoralized, then sell everything, or aggressively short at maximum leverage. There will not be another bull run.

That's exactly what you told us last time... 

His strategy is perhaps if he says it often enough he might be right one day.

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Good morning WO Bitcoin land. Hope everyone has a great Friday. The weekend is almost here thank F*ck.
New chances from Monday, it will be March.

[somac.]

Just thinking, apparently there is a delay in wire transfers atm, the trend down in price could be that not enough money is getting through to the exchanges.

When this delay stops though, there will be a bit of a flood of new fiat onto the exchanges, new fiat plus low prices = up.