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[d_eddie]

A luddite and a hodler. Wow.

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[Dabs]

Sounds good...will be taken under consideration when building a custom "dream house".
The only question right now is: where?
Current thinking is to go bi-coastal (a combo of FL/WA-OR-CO; Caribbean/WA-OR or even FL/Canada (Vancouver?)...less likely is one house in US, one in Europe (London or something sunny, like Portugal).
Portugal has something good going with a golden visa, but learning Portuguese might be difficult (or not).

This is something that many of us WOers will seriously need to consider. And by the looks of it, this will need to happen sooner than some may have imagined. Bob is building a ranch, Jimbo is buying a lake (man, that sounds so cool), Elwar is into seasteading (not without its troubles, but still, he's pursuing his dream).

I'm also thinking of different possibilities. It's not easy to be rich. Sometimes not having a choice is much easier than having many choices and not being able to decide (although I'd take the second option anytime).

If you live in the U.S., here's my advice to narrow things down (which I did):

1. States that favor private property rights and other freedoms (usually conservative)
2. States that have low or no income taxes
3. States that have low property taxes (this is huge!!)
4. States with moderate climates and a longer growing season
5. States that don't have to deal much, if at all, with natural disasters (i.e., tornadoes, tropical storms, hurricanes, earthquakes, mudslides, etc.)
6. States with low electricity costs
7. States that have lots of available, lost cost land within 10-20 miles of a major city
8. City near where you will live has a decent airport with international flights

If you cross reference all of this criteria, you'll find that it narrows it down to about a half dozen states at most.

I would also add States that have "Stand your ground" / "Castle doctrine" laws and allows "open carry", but that's just me. May not be something some people would consider.

Edit: While you guys are looking for large plots of land, I would also consider putting up my own private outdoor firing range. Then invite the local law enforcement to use it. Make friends with the cops and military in your area.

"You... uh... working again, John?"
"No, just sorting some stuff out."
"Oh well, I'll leave you be then. Good night, John"
"Good night, Jimmy."

[lightfoot]

If you cross reference all of this criteria, you'll find that it narrows it down to about a half dozen states at most.

This is fun stuff. I would personally place a high value on a functioning government: The recent experience in Texas pointed out that you can have a wonderfully independent rancho apocalypse that insulates you from government stupidity however it puts you on a high value target list for your freezing and starving neighbors.

I prefer to live in an area where I don't have to evaluate my neighbors based on their caloric content. Mostly because that's a lot of un-needed stress.

[Torque]

If you live in the U.S., here's my advice to narrow things down (which I did):

1. States that favor private property rights and other freedoms (usually conservative)
2. States that have low or no income taxes
3. States that have low property taxes (this is huge!!)
4. States with moderate climates and a longer growing season
5. States that don't have to deal much, if at all, with natural disasters (i.e., tornadoes, tropical storms, hurricanes, earthquakes, mudslides, etc.)
6. States with low electricity costs
7. States that have lots of available, lost cost land within 10-20 miles of a major city
8. City near where you will live has a decent airport with international flights

If you cross reference all of this criteria, you'll find that it narrows it down to about a half dozen states at most.

The US is tricky right now. Some states are about to flip blue, especially given the electoral changes that the dems are trying to push through right now. And even if they don't, the federal government looks on a course to hugely expand its powers and oversight. I'd avoid making any big moves for the next couple of years and then try and pick carefully.

Yeah, but there are some states that are firmly red and always will be.

In fact, I'm betting that the state I live in now will still be standing firm as a last bastion of low taxes and personal freedoms, when all other states around it have collapsed due to govt mismanagement, unaffordably high taxes, defaults, and other over-reaching nannie state bullshit.

I won't divulge where I live tho, 'cause OpSec and all.

[Biodom]

A luddite and a hodler. Wow.

it meant to be a joke...I like my tech gizmos...and maybe after 60 only "advanced peripherals" would be available, lol.

[d_eddie]

Mine was a joke too. I know what you're doing with your USB jacks, man. USB jack on, USB jack off... well you know the drill 

[Dabs]

Yeah, but there are some states that are firmly red and always will be.

In fact, I'm betting that the state I live in now will still be standing firm as a last bastion of low taxes and personal freedoms, when all other states around it have collapsed due to govt mismanagement, high taxes, defaults, and other over-reaching nannie state bullshit.

I won't divulge where I live tho, 'cause OpSec and all.

But, does your state respect both the first and second amendments? Can you carry a loaded firearm openly without needing to conceal it, without a license? (I understand some States have Concealed Carry Licenses too.)

[cAPSLOCK]

Sounds good...will be taken under consideration when building a custom "dream house".
The only question right now is: where?
Current thinking is to go bi-coastal (a combo of FL/WA-OR-CO; Caribbean/WA-OR or even FL/Canada (Vancouver?)...less likely is one house in US, one in Europe (London or something sunny, like Portugal).
Portugal has something good going with a golden visa, but learning Portuguese might be difficult (or not).

This is something that many of us WOers will seriously need to consider. And by the looks of it, this will need to happen sooner than some may have imagined. Bob is building a ranch, Jimbo is buying a lake (man, that sounds so cool), Elwar is into seasteading (not without its troubles, but still, he's pursuing his dream).

I'm also thinking of different possibilities. It's not easy to be rich. Sometimes not having a choice is much easier than having many choices and not being able to decide (although I'd take the second option anytime).

If you live in the U.S., here's my advice to narrow things down (which I did):

1. States that favor private property rights and other freedoms (usually conservative)
2. States that have low or no income taxes
3. States that have low property taxes (this is huge!!)
4. States with moderate climates and a longer growing season
5. States that don't have to deal much, if at all, with natural disasters (i.e., tornadoes, tropical storms, hurricanes, earthquakes, mudslides, etc.)
6. States with low electricity costs
7. States that have lots of available, lost cost land within 10-20 miles of a major city
8. City near where you will live has a decent airport with international flights

If you cross reference all of this criteria, you'll find that it narrows it down to about a half dozen states at most.

Really you narrowed it down to Texas.  Except for #3 which is balanced by #2.

[Dabs]

Really you narrowed it down to Texas.  Except for #3 which is balanced by #2.

You can't carry openly in Texas without a permit. Licenses granted on a "shall-issue" basis. Which is better than nothing, but it's still not unrestricted.

[sirazimuth]

This is from November 17, 2020:

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Just looked up again:
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Questions anyone? 

ftfy

[bct_ail]

This is from November 17, 2020:

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Just looked up again:
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Questions anyone? 

ftfy

You look that far down? 

[cAPSLOCK]

Really you narrowed it down to Texas.  Except for #3 which is balanced by #2.

You can't carry openly in Texas without a permit. Licenses granted on a "shall-issue" basis. Which is better than nothing, but it's still not unrestricted.

You are right you cannot open carry in public in Texas (yet).  But you can carry concealed, and you can carry openly on private property.  Texas' gun laws are fairly permissive.

[Torque]

Yeah, but there are some states that are firmly red and always will be.

In fact, I'm betting that the state I live in now will still be standing firm as a last bastion of low taxes and personal freedoms, when all other states around it have collapsed due to govt mismanagement, high taxes, defaults, and other over-reaching nannie state bullshit.

I won't divulge where I live tho, 'cause OpSec and all.

But, does your state respect both the first and second amendments? Can you carry a loaded firearm openly without needing to conceal it, without a license? (I understand some States have Concealed Carry Licenses too.)

Yep, yep, and yep (with permit).

[Hueristic]

Europe is fucking slow because they dictate who gets what.... I’m in Holland....
Want the vaccine ASAP...

Can always just dress up like an old lady.

Yeah florida, fighting texas for setting an example as usual.

2 women dressed as 'grannies' to get COVID-19 vaccine, Florida officials say

https://abcnews.go.com/US/women-20s-dressed-grannies-covid-19-vaccine-florida/story?id=75984671

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L4YrGaR8E4

I used to think this was Balls on Parade when I first heard it, kinda works.

[vapourminer]

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gimee the tl;dr  we are rich again?

[lightfoot]

1. States that favor private property rights and other freedoms (usually conservative)
2. States that have low or no income taxes
3. States that have low property taxes (this is huge!!)
4. States with moderate climates and a longer growing season
5. States that don't have to deal much, if at all, with natural disasters (i.e., tornadoes, tropical storms, hurricanes, earthquakes, mudslides, etc.)
6. States with low electricity costs
7. States that have lots of available, lost cost land within 10-20 miles of a major city
8. City near where you will live has a decent airport with international flights

If you cross reference all of this criteria, you'll find that it narrows it down to about a half dozen states at most.

Really you narrowed it down to Texas.  Except for #3 which is balanced by #2.
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Tennessee was my thought: Texas gets way too many natural disasters which lead to starving mobs. No fun. And I think they have pretty high electricity costs with no ability for solar producers to get the higher prices utilities charge in an emergency. That cap is *nasty* IMO.

But you could build something way out in the sticks, build your own power utility isolated from the Texas grid and provide power to other people. Hm.....

[infofront]

Sounds good...will be taken under consideration when building a custom "dream house".
The only question right now is: where?
Current thinking is to go bi-coastal (a combo of FL/WA-OR-CO; Caribbean/WA-OR or even FL/Canada (Vancouver?)...less likely is one house in US, one in Europe (London or something sunny, like Portugal).
Portugal has something good going with a golden visa, but learning Portuguese might be difficult (or not).

This is something that many of us WOers will seriously need to consider. And by the looks of it, this will need to happen sooner than some may have imagined. Bob is building a ranch, Jimbo is buying a lake (man, that sounds so cool), Elwar is into seasteading (not without its troubles, but still, he's pursuing his dream).

I'm also thinking of different possibilities. It's not easy to be rich. Sometimes not having a choice is much easier than having many choices and not being able to decide (although I'd take the second option anytime).

If you live in the U.S., here's my advice to narrow things down (which I did):

1. States that favor private property rights and other freedoms (usually conservative)
2. States that have low or no income taxes
3. States that have low property taxes (this is huge!!)
4. States with moderate climates and a longer growing season
5. States that don't have to deal much, if at all, with natural disasters (i.e., tornadoes, tropical storms, hurricanes, earthquakes, mudslides, etc.)
6. States with low electricity costs
7. States that have lots of available, lost cost land within 10-20 miles of a major city
8. City near where you will live has a decent airport with international flights

If you cross reference all of this criteria, you'll find that it narrows it down to about a half dozen states at most.

Really you narrowed it down to Texas.  Except for #3 which is balanced by #2.

Other areas of the gulf coast may qualify, and perhaps Tennessee.

Of the "other gulf coast states besides TX and FL", Alabama, for instance, has a ~5% income tax, which applies to capital gains AFAIK, but that could be offset by their very low property tax rate. Also, that state will remain red forever, which would be a pro for me.

[savetherainforest]

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gimee the tl;dr  we are rich again?

NO! ... ... Wait for it.

[infofront]

1. States that favor private property rights and other freedoms (usually conservative)
2. States that have low or no income taxes
3. States that have low property taxes (this is huge!!)
4. States with moderate climates and a longer growing season
5. States that don't have to deal much, if at all, with natural disasters (i.e., tornadoes, tropical storms, hurricanes, earthquakes, mudslides, etc.)
6. States with low electricity costs
7. States that have lots of available, lost cost land within 10-20 miles of a major city
8. City near where you will live has a decent airport with international flights

If you cross reference all of this criteria, you'll find that it narrows it down to about a half dozen states at most.

Really you narrowed it down to Texas.  Except for #3 which is balanced by #2.

Tennessee was my thought: Texas gets way too many natural disasters which lead to starving mobs. No fun. And I think they have pretty high electricity costs with no ability for solar producers to get the higher prices utilities charge in an emergency. That cap is *nasty* IMO.

But you could build something way out in the sticks, build your own power utility isolated from the Texas grid and provide power to other people. Hm.....

Texas has absurdly high property tax rates, and high sales tax rates.

[Hueristic]

Pretty sure I've been in that rats nest looking for an open port.

Theres usually a few in those messes because no-one ever removes a cable as they are afraid the whole thing will stop working!

Fun Fact is you work somewhere with one of those you can get alot of overtime to square it away and you can really pad that time if you want.