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April 29, 2021, 06:27:00 PM
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Among your family and friends, who owns Bitcoin?

This is too invasive a question.
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April 29, 2021, 06:34:12 PM

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Yes GayJuanGee, I realize you are still upset for me exposing you as the daytrading troll you are.

You are quite amazing, if you do say so yourself.   Shocked

I see you still spend almost all your free time typing walls about price predictions and your gambling hobby of day trading Bitcoin.

Are you filming me or my bot?

You fuck!!!!

Im sure you still try and pretend that you arent gambling with King Bitcoin bc you are "buying on the way down" and "selling on the way up", as you have some special skill at knowing what the King will do in the short term.

I tried to create a system that hardly has any presumptions about short term btc price movements and ONLY presumes (or hopes for) long term UPpity.

Your skill is typing large walls. Stick to that.

Why, thank you lambie.. that is amongst the nicest things that you have ever said to me.

You really should just learn to hodl.

You really think that you know my situation better than me?  Pretty damned presumptuous, no?

We all know about the times you lost coins to hacks and exit scams by keeping them spread all over various crap exchanges so you could day trade them.

That's true.  There is a risk in engaging with exchanges, including having coins exposed to sim porting vulnerabilities.  I doubt that "we all" know about those various risks or how they might be executed. and sure the more that any of us plays around with a variety of systems the more security vulnerable we could become or even the more vulnerable we could become to our own potential sloppiness - even if we might be striving to build skills and knowledge.


Time to admit you are a compulsive gambler (and typer) and learn to hodl.

I don't really want to admit to anything that is framed in such negative ways, and surely the gambling part has been something that I have been striving to help people to better understand their own strategies in such a way that minimizes gambling aspects.

Accordingly, we might consider investing in something and gambling to be on a kind of spectrum, and my approach to bitcoin has been to attempt to frame it and to attempt to employ a variety of investment, rather than gambling, strategies.

You might not understand the difference between gambling and investing, right you dumb twat?  Think about it, lambie bambie... for years, there have been folks who have come into various BTC threads and asserted that there is no way that peeps can "invest" in bitcoin because all that they are doing is "gambling," and it seems to me that they have largely been proven wrong, the presumptuous and non-thinkening fucks.  You do not want to include your stupid-lil-selfie with them, do you lambie bambie? 

Seems to me that if you strive to categorize anything that is NOT buying and HODLing as gambling than you are likely missing a lot of nuance, not only in what I am doing in terms of trading, but other aspects of overall investment portfolio management that I attempt to advocate in terms of managing allocations.. and setting personal goals.. which first of all puts a lot of emphasis for anyone who wants to attempt to move their lil selfies more in the direction of "investing" rather than "gambling" would be to figure out their own personal financial and psychological circumstances including their cashflow, other investments, view of bitcoin as compared with other investments, timeline, risk tolerance and time, skills and abilities to learn, plan and to tweak their allocations and methods from time to time which might involve reallocations and trading.

Also you should have gotten out of your poorly performing investments and gone all in the King as I have been telling you for years.  Wink

Why would I listen to you?  Again, you know shit about my overall investments and even my personal situation and contemplations, even if you act like you do from gleaning some posts.. so fucking what?  I have not said enough about my personal situation or my priorities in order for your advices to be applicable to my particular situation, even if you might want to apply the same advices to everyone.. which seems another inappropriate and inadequate approach to investing, whether we are talking about BTC or any other kinds of investing in terms of peeps need to apply their own investment choices to their situation and to take responsibilities for such.., and sure sometimes there are seemingly obvious objective problems because it remains tough as fuck for peeps to even attempt to understand their own financial and psychological situations and there are also obstacles in attempting to apply systems to synchronize with such financial and psychological situations even presuming that they know those things pretty well.

If you want to wager some Bitcoin on whether I can prove I still control my old banned account let me know. I like free coin.  Cheesy

Do I care, newbie?

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April 29, 2021, 06:44:19 PM
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The effect of options on BTC (1d chart). Each circle is the expiration date, last Friday of the month. Line is the trend until those dates. Quite clear.

https://twitter.com/xrpmadness/status/1387836594602790912?s=21



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April 29, 2021, 06:49:26 PM

Doing this right is a balance of security and simplicity.  If we try to do it in a way that is overly convoluted, or requires a very good memory, or would be difficult to communicate to another trusted human, we are increasing the possibility of a "foot gun".  When I have thought through these I have tried to come up with schemes where I would combine a set of keys for multi-sig with decoy amounts in the wallets associated with the single keys, along with BIP39 passphrases, AND the use of exotic derivation paths.  I began to realize that if I over-engineer the method in the name of "security" I am increasing the chances that I can make a mistake, or simply forget one of the things I did.

The great thing about Bitcoin is that (unless you do it wrong), you start from a position of unimpeachable security. A random 256 bit number (or series of such) completely unknown to anyone else. It's true that management of that poses some difficulties but solutions tend to be problematic only in that they have reduced security compared to the maximum security bitcoin provides and not in comparison to more traditional options for wealth storage (which look pretty poor in comparison).

And unfortunately, for some (most probably) users a bitcoin bank may be the safest solution even taking the counterparty risk into account.  Leaving your bitcoin on an exchange, or in your CashApp wallet is rightly frowned upon by we OG elite... but until we have better trust minimized options it still might be best for the masses.

I wouldn't really agree. That's kinda throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It may just require more sophisticated key management techniques and for people to become more aware of their availability. Your bank and another party might participate in an m of n arrangement, for example. (Though bviously, you are sacrificing some security there, it's still better than trusting someone else with all your funds). The major thing is education though. Of the people I gave Bitcoin to in the past, none of them took notice of my warning to take backups of their wallets.

I certainly agree with this from a idealistic standpoint... But I have found even just getting a lightbulb to go on when just describing what makes bitcoin different than say, Venmo can be hard.  So helping Joe Sixpack custody his own keys safely is tricky.
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April 29, 2021, 07:06:47 PM
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Among your family and friends, who owns Bitcoin?

This is too invasive a question.

The correct answer is we are all no-coiners.

Any other answer could be detrimental to you, your friends' and family's well being.






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Switching to a Mac is any easy enough solution for the average person worried about ransomware.


Only if you see it from a client side perspective...
You can happily throw away Apple's server software, though.
Industry runs M$ servers, typically, and you're right in some way, because the OS itself is the malware.


Very true the retard politicians should be targeting the actual fault in the system that allows this and its the laughable security provided to the average user from garbage OS's that prioritize infringing on privacy rather than security of data thereby allowing an attack vector baked in on every OS.

Of course this will never happen as they live off the Tit of corporations.
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Among your family and friends, who owns Bitcoin?

This is too invasive a question.

The correct answer is we are all no-coiners.

Any other answer could be detrimental to you, your friends' and family's well being.







Bitcorn is a ponzi.  Only losers are getting in on these tulips.
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Among your family and friends, who owns Bitcoin?

This is too invasive a question.

The correct answer is we are all no-coiners.

Any other answer could be detrimental to you, your friends' and family's well being.







Bitcorn is a ponzi.  Only losers are getting in on these tulips.

Jesus Christ I'm sick of hearing this!!!

Its a Pyramid Scheme don't you people know the difference?
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Among your family and friends, who owns Bitcoin?

This is too invasive a question.

The correct answer is we are all no-coiners.

Any other answer could be detrimental to you, your friends' and family's well being.







Bitcorn is a ponzi.  Only losers are getting in on these tulips.

Yep that's one good line to tell over inquisitive colleagues and acquaintances.
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Bitcorn is a ponzi.  Only losers are getting in on these tulips.

You're forgetting criminals. Are you one by any chance?
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April 29, 2021, 08:08:46 PM

@XRPMadness
The effect of options on BTC (1d chart). Each circle is the expiration date, last Friday of the month. Line is the trend until those dates. Quite clear.

https://twitter.com/xrpmadness/status/1387836594602790912?s=21


... this blatant market manipulation via derivatives is how they have been keeping a lid on gold (and silver) price for the last 30 years. Manage price, manage price expectations, keep the plebes in rotting fiat.

... quite likely this is real reason they have gone after Bitmex, as it is an options shop they can't control
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Among your family and friends, who owns Bitcoin?

This is too invasive a question.

The correct answer is we are all no-coiners.

Any other answer could be detrimental to you, your friends' and family's well being.


Meh, at these low prices.... 
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Bitcorn is a ponzi.  Only losers are getting in on these tulips.

You're forgetting criminals. Are you one by any chance?

... and market manipulators.

 It's really a pyramid scheme for losers and criminals getting in on manipulated markets for tulips, stay away.
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@XRPMadness
The effect of options on BTC (1d chart). Each circle is the expiration date, last Friday of the month. Line is the trend until those dates. Quite clear.

https://twitter.com/xrpmadness/status/1387836594602790912?s=21


... this blatant market manipulation via derivatives is how they have been keeping a lid on gold (and silver) price for the last 30 years. Manage price, manage price expectations, keep the plebes in rotting fiat.

... quite likely this is real reason they have gone after Bitmex, as it is an options shop they can't control

Not options actually: only futures and perpetual swaps, absolutely no fiat in or out.

But yes, I too think that's it. It was too easy for un-KYC'd Muricans to use. And use they did.

For fairness, it must be said that the barting is gone since Bitmex has started receiving some sweet Uncle Sam love.
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10 merits from mindrust...



For a respond outlining this sentence “If you don’t believe it or don’t get it, I don’t have the time to try to convince you, sorry.”

- Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of #Bitcoin


Here he still had corn and of-course when he had and saw FIAT nr go up, he decided to be a coiner, then when he lost his believe ALL because of FIAT nr went down... He decided to be a NO-COINER, all because of the dirty FIAT system was the only reason on his "mind"... I bet his not having a "rest" at all at this time, poor guy.

https://twitter.com/DocumentingBTC/status/1387864572468633601?s=20

LoL meritting Satashi like a big boy in big boy pants
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Bitcorn is a ponzi.  Only losers are getting in on these tulips.

You're forgetting criminals. Are you one by any chance?

Which kind? Terrorist, money launderer, kiddie pornographer, drug dealer, or Ponzi scammer?
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Bitcorn is a ponzi.  Only losers are getting in on these tulips.

You're forgetting criminals. Are you one by any chance?

Which kind? Terrorist, money launderer, kiddie pornographer, drug dealer, or Ponzi scammer?

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Bitcorn is a ponzi.  Only losers are getting in on these tulips.

You're forgetting criminals. Are you one by any chance?

Which kind? Terrorist, money launderer, kiddie pornographer, drug dealer, or Ponzi scammer?

Banker Theft Avoiders

You forgot lake buyers. The worst kind.
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Bitcorn is a ponzi.  Only losers are getting in on these tulips.

You're forgetting criminals. Are you one by any chance?

Which kind? Terrorist, money launderer, kiddie pornographer, drug dealer, or Ponzi scammer?

Banker Theft Avoiders

You forgot lake buyers. The worst kind.
Politicians of all flavors, evil tax avoiders, EUSSR, money lenders, Marxist professors, antifa, Ali Khamenei, the meek, Pope Francis, vegans, MSM, Al Shabaab, Spongebob Squarepants and Biden's mate that Chinese guy, whatshisname Winnie the Pooh.
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