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I doubt it's really possible "to eliminate ice formation"... too much water in the body.
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@100trillionUSD Just to confirm: both my S2F(X) model and on-chain signal point towards a second run of this bull market🚀 https://twitter.com/100trillionusd/status/1404845184819544067?s=21@cyper_m00n whats the end game for S2F? doesn't the price have to stop increasing at some point? https://twitter.com/cypher_m00n/status/1404845593474764802?s=21@100trillionUSD As I have said before in interviews (all interviews at PlanBTC.com): the end game for S2F model is when we can no longer interpolate, i.e. S2F ratio above real estate level (S2F100). So IMO we can follow S2F model this phase (2020-2024) and next phase (2024-2028). @cypher_m00n thank you for the response. ok let's see! if we fail to recapture higher levels within the next 6 months do you think S2F will need to be revised? @100trillionUSD yes, we will have to be at least above $100K end of this year to keep S2F model on the rails @100trillionUSD 2013 style indeed
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don't want to counterfeit imitate prodhun but $38k may be possible the next days. Of course, a lot of things are actually possible, and even more things may be possible, whether we are talking days or longer. In udder words... not saying much to proclaim something or another "may be" possible. @Dabs:
I side with Jay on the afterlife part. I would even say that the odds of it existing are far fewer than 1%. Perhaps 0+% (the + is for being scientific). As for your bet on it existing or not and where it will land you after you die, it's an interesting argument that many people use (i.e., winning this life vs. an eternal afterlife), but, according to almost all religious texts, this mindset will not land you in a nice place after you die, so you'd better pray there's no afterlife...
Its a little bit more involved than that, I guess you could say it starts with that mindset, until you change your way of thinking and willingness to help other people and your fellow brothers in humanity. You, Dabs, are making the question more involved, and seem to be wanting to push some kind of agenda.. or at least to discuss the Pascal wager, when that was not even brought up by anyone except for you extending the conversation into never never landia, if there even is such a place?. Largely, all that was being asked or talked about by AlcoHoDL were probabilities of whether there is and afterlife in terms of whether he is actually going to have any kind of capacity to see his lil ded selfie during the funeral or whatever, which is also contemplating whether death is actually final. So surely we moved quickly passed that part because we were both largely in agreement that the odds were pretty damned low.. but still maybe something to mention as a kind of possible fantasy. So now you, Dabs, seem to want to double down and talk some more about whether some peeps should be motivated to be "goodie goodie" based on if they believe that they could end up getting punished in the even that they do not live sufficiently "goodie goodie" in this current life. In some sense you are coming off as patronizing and pretentious to act as if some of us have not come across such ideas, but you may well being patronizing and pretentious as well to be trying to push us into some kind of nonsense religious topic because you want to talk about it, when it was NOT even mentioned beyond as a kind of passing thingie. Whether the answer is yes or no, I would like to live a life where I am remembered by at least a few that I have had it okay or good or something along those lines.
Nothing wrong with that, and in that regard, I doubt how you remembered is dependent on their being an afterlife or not.. but maybe how you remembered is one of the ONLY forms of actual afterlife that exists - so you are kind of alive - even though not materially - until the last person forgets you... perhaps? Proof or evidence is a matter of faith. One can not really see it, but either you take the leap or you don't.
We (that's the royal we plus 1... and all that matters for all intents and purposes) have already ruled it out, here. The mindset I prefer is one stemming from love, not fear. Criminals fear law enforcement. Good people are good just because they feel good when they do good.
Surely that point has something to do with the price of tea in China, especially if we dig down really MOAR deeper. Now, that's a more reasonable take on Pascal's wager. They are both way out there.. but sure.. freezing your head at least seems to have a some kind of "chance" (in the Dumb and Dumber Jim Carey sense).. gosh, not even sure if that is greater than 1% whether we are referring to 20-50 years or 100 years, 1,000 years or even longer.. but hey science does have ways of surprising us regarding what is actually possible in terms of ending up actually being able to later carry out what was initially theorized as to being impossible.
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The first person to quote this post get to choose the new poll. Go!
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June 15, 2021, 05:33:00 PM |
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The first person to quote this post get to choose the new poll. Go! mememememe Ps.. do I count as a "person"? #justasking
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This sort of thing actually pisses me off. Because if EITHER of these guys actually spent any time giving lightning a chance they would be saying something different. That is not to even imply they would like it. And it most certainly is still bumpy and the UX is still not really close. But both of these comments reveal they do not really know what it is, and have probably only noodled with it for a few moments. A good criticism is that once the UX is seamless and just works we should not see some of these sorts of comments. But these are two well known people in the BTC community showing their ignorant and doing slight damage to the reputation of what a LOT of people are putting serious work into. But Fenton's comment reveals that he has not used any recent wallets yet. Almost all of them (both custodial, and non custodial) handle channel management for you seamlessly and in the background. You send it Bitcoin and boom, after x confirmations you are fully up and running with a lightning channel. Paul's comment does not even make sense. The fact that both of these 2nd layer solutions use multisig addresses is the ACTUAL PROOF that they are indeed BITCOIN. I especially find the whole "we should have more" whine to be atrocious. Then BUILD it you shit. And then "We should be more like Ripple" at the end? I think I have reached my limit with this sort of mindset. It's this VC like arrogance when the "thought leader" is really just confused and in the dark. Recently I saw Brian Armstrong touting BitClout. Good grief. It's this exact kind of lemming like thought. Look at what everyone else is doing and saying. Compare the biggest innovation, possibly in the history of mankind, to things it destroys like gold, or God have mercy RIPPLE?!?!? I might should give Fenton a break, i don't know, but Paul COMPLETELY shows his ass. He is actually HARMING Bitcoin adoption spreading this kind of FUD. Again, I might come off as a lightning fanboy, and maybe I am. But I am realistic. I think it might fail! It could have a hideously bad vulnerability, and people could lose money. There may be something much better in development. Fenton is just being ignorant, and speaking too soon. But Paul is a fool, in my opinion. Bitcoin in a 2/3 multisig is not Bitcoin? Doesn't this ass promote ETH all the time too? What's that then, bananas? Also, I am pretty sure that is not how liquid works.
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what is the estimated time for the peak of this cycle?
if it has the same time like in the last cycle it would be around december this year, but it looks like it will be extended a bit. so what is your guys guess?
march, april or even later?
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what is the estimated time for the peak of this cycle?
if it has the same time like in the last cycle it would be around december this year, but it looks like it will be extended a bit. so what is your guys guess?
march, april or even later?
The peak of this last bull cycle was in March of this year. We don't have to guess. We know it.
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BTC going up!
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what is the estimated time for the peak of this cycle?
if it has the same time like in the last cycle it would be around december this year, but it looks like it will be extended a bit. so what is your guys guess?
march, april or even later?
The peak of this last bull cycle was in March of this year. We don't have to guess. We know it. how does it feel to see it rising right now?
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From Alcor's site: Hal’s long-stated wishes were to come to Scottsdale once he lost the ability to communicate with family and friends. When that time arrived, he was flown to Scottsdale by air ambulance with his wife, Fran, at his side. Hal and Fran Finney arrived in Scottsdale, Arizona on Tuesday August 26 where Hal was checked into ICU of a hospital near Alcor where the Alcor response team was set-up and waiting.
After the family had a chance to say their goodbyes, Hal’s ventilator was disconnected and he was allowed to breathe naturally, all while medical providers ensured that he had no conscious awareness of the process. Defying doctors’ expectations, he didn’t draw his final breath until 38 hours later, shortly before 9:00 am on Thursday August 28. Immediately after pronouncement of legal death, Alcor’s standby team went into action, restoring circulation, ventilation, administering an array of medications, and initiating external cooling. Cryoprotective perfusion — to eliminate ice formation — has been completed and Hal is now undergoing cool down to -196 degC for long term storage where he be cared for until the day when repair and revival may be possible.
Hal paid for his cryopreservation through a combination of life insurance and bitcoins donated by admirers. His wife, Fran, also has arrangements for cryopreservation. She is glad to have a chance to see him again sometime in the future when they may return in restored and rejuvenated bodies. I guess that's the ultimate kind of "cold storage". I hope he gets "reanimated" soon, although I have my doubts as to whether this is even possible. Oh my that comes off as a horrible description of death that causes me to speculate that it may well even be more difficult to bring back someone that died in that kind of way.. versus someone who might be purposefully euthanized in a more quickie kind of fashion in order to attempt to preserve the brain in a less likely damaged - not saying that I understand the supposed scientific procedure either, except for just understanding that death involves a damaging of cells process.. and seems to be also common sense that quickie deaths have way fewer damaged cells.. at least at the time of "official/legal" death. By the way, as I type this post, isn't supra $40k seeming even like a greater kind of "temporary" ... surely this cannot count as UPpity (I mean $41,334.... as I type... pffft.. what is that.. kind of ant-ish, no? not really anything, right?).. we need to be changing the number.. just to make the point that UPpity is not be the actual BTC price direction. Get a grip guys... this not be up.. just act like you don't see anything when you look at the charts, because whatever you think that you might be seeing currently, doesn't count.
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Where is proudfuck Number go up Proudie silence
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BTC going up!
Going way yyyy upppp! I checked 10 minutes ago and it was just above $40,200. Now it's over $41.250. What a lovely bull run! Come on letssss go! That is some beauty of a green candle... all the way up!
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I doubt it's really possible "to eliminate ice formation"... too much water in the body.
My understanding of cryogenics is that all fluids are drained out of the body and replaced with a cryogenic solution, think of it as a sort of "anti-freeze" solution for this very issue. Now of course it is rather debatable that someone can be revived in the next 20, 40, 60 years, but if you have the money, what's the risk right? So you're saying there's a chance?
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The first person to quote this post get to choose the new poll. Go! mememememe Ps.. do I count as a "person"? #justaskingBut wait a minute does bitcointalk even support ten twenty pages in poll? Good luck infofront in compiling it.
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This sort of thing actually pisses me off. Because if EITHER of these guys actually spent any time giving lightning a chance they would be saying something different. That is not to even imply they would like it. And it most certainly is still bumpy and the UX is still not really close. But both of these comments reveal they do not really know what it is, and have probably only noodled with it for a few moments. A good criticism is that once the UX is seamless and just works we should not see some of these sorts of comments. But these are two well known people in the BTC community showing their ignorant and doing slight damage to the reputation of what a LOT of people are putting serious work into. But Fenton's comment reveals that he has not used any recent wallets yet. Almost all of them (both custodial, and non custodial) handle channel management for you seamlessly and in the background. You send it Bitcoin and boom, after x confirmations you are fully up and running with a lightning channel. Paul's comment does not even make sense. The fact that both of these 2nd layer solutions use multisig addresses is the ACTUAL PROOF that they are indeed BITCOIN. I especially find the whole "we should have more" whine to be atrocious. Then BUILD it you shit. And then "We should be more like Ripple" at the end? I think I have reached my limit with this sort of mindset. It's this VC like arrogance when the "thought leader" is really just confused and in the dark. Recently I saw Brian Armstrong touting BitClout. Good grief. It's this exact kind of lemming like thought. Look at what everyone else is doing and saying. Compare the biggest innovation, possibly in the history of mankind, to things it destroys like gold, or God have mercy RIPPLE?!?!? I might should give Fenton a break, i don't know, but Paul COMPLETELY shows his ass. He is actually HARMING Bitcoin adoption spreading this kind of FUD. Again, I might come off as a lightning fanboy, and maybe I am. But I am realistic. I think it might fail! It could have a hideously bad vulnerability, and people could lose money. There may be something much better in development. Fenton is just being ignorant, and speaking too soon. But Paul is a fool, in my opinion. Bitcoin in a 2/3 multisig is not Bitcoin? Doesn't this ass promote ETH all the time too? What's that then, bananas? Also, I am pretty sure that is not how liquid works. I am having some difficulties following you, cAPSLOCK. You cite three dweebs who are already known to be shitcoiners as if they should be speaking more clearly about bitcoin in terms of what bitcoin has to offer versus whatever their snake-oil-salesman agenda might want to promote. You are not incorrect about any of them speaking a lot of nonsense, and even criticizing them for "not knowing better" because each of them have the potential to be smart about bitcoin. Roger Ver, Craig Wright and jbreher have lot's of potential to make the bitcoin case, but we do not hear any of those dweebs making the case for bitcoin, so why are we suggesting dweebs like Bruce Fenton, Ari Paul, or Brian Armstrong are much better because they are trying to have feet in multiple camps... and maybe they even believe some of the shit that they say, even though we surely can and should expect that they likely know better... but so what.. there are lot's of disingenuine twats out there... and the three that you mentioned are already known as disingenuine twats rather than the bitcoin maximalists that you seem to be trying to make them out to be.. as if it were some kind of surprise!!!!!!! that any of them had supposedly fallen from grace. I don't disagree with your overall point that those guys are bunch of disingenuine dweebtwats, but aren't you, cAPSLOCK, making a strawman argument, or what?
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Ants are pumping in gym I guess.
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